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[quote=MTK;1167887]Probably because it wasn't just him that came up with it, probably a lot of input from others in the decision making group went into putting together the plan. So why scrap it this late in the process?[/quote]

Yes. Scott Campbell does a huge amount of the work - that was true when McC was there and it's still true now. It would be wrong to think McC made the board by his lonesome.

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[quote=Schneed10;1167911]Yes. Scott Campbell does a huge amount of the work - that was true when McC was there and it's still true now. It would be wrong to think McC made the board by his lonesome.[/quote]

Then, I hope Scott C can help make up for Scott McC's departure.

Regardless of how things went down, I feel bad for Scott McC. Anyone that's been fired twice and is still drinking clearly has a HUGE issue with alcohol. That's the definition of an alcoholic, when it affects your work/life.

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[quote=MTK;1167887]Probably because it wasn't just him that came up with it, probably a lot of input from others in the decision making group went into putting together the plan. So why scrap it this late in the process?[/quote]

Because the guy who put it together was an alcoholic and was letting it affect his job? Otherwise why fire him now, instead of after the draft the way respectable teams do?

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[quote=mooby;1167934]Because the guy who put it together was an alcoholic and was letting it affect his job? Otherwise why fire him now, instead of after the draft the way respectable teams do?[/quote]

Maybe if he showed up to the nfl combine he would still be employed.

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Life goes on, only those involved with the actual firing of Scot McC know what went down and are afraid of any legal implications about saying anything about it. Reality is the guy is gone and to be honest some other guys on NFL.com weren't all that off the mark when they thought Scot was overhyped to begin with. Snyder has had us to the level of Cleveland and Detroit, where any change in the FO is seen as a new era, etc and gives us false hope. Face it, his(Scot's) moves weren't all that great in FA or the 2016 draft. He did some nice things in FA, but some others evened it out. All we can do is what we have done for the past 20+ years and hope for the best. And if not there is a plethora of other ways to spend our Sunday afternoons.

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[quote=ethat001;1167912]Then, I hope Scott C can help make up for Scott McC's departure.

Regardless of how things went down, I feel bad for Scott McC. Anyone that's been fired twice and is still drinking clearly has a HUGE issue with alcohol. That's the definition of an alcoholic, when it affects your work/life.[/quote]

I 100% do not believe that alcohol is to blame for Scott's firing. There has already been "anonymous" current players who have stated that they never saw Scott drinking or drunk, and that he never seemed under the influence at work.

It came down to 2 major things: The redskins were enraged about Scott's wife tweeting pictures of Scott's superbowl rings from GB and Seattle. #2 was that it was Scott's idea to trade Cousins, when at that time the school of thought was to try and lock up Cousins long term. They have since moved on from trying to sign Cousins to a LTD....

In time, this will be proven as a smear job.

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This thing sure has gone off the rails eh

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1167939]I 100% do not believe that alcohol is to blame for Scott's firing. There has already been "anonymous" current players who have stated that they never saw Scott drinking or drunk, and that he never seemed under the influence at work.

It came down to 2 major things: The redskins were enraged about Scott's wife tweeting pictures of Scott's superbowl rings from GB and Seattle. #2 was that it was Scott's idea to trade Cousins, when at that time the school of thought was to try and lock up Cousins long term. They have since moved on from trying to sign Cousins to a LTD....

In time, this will be proven as a smear job.[/quote]

C'mon, Snake! Many of us dislike the way Snyder and Allen sometimes treat people but that doesn't mean that Scot doesn't have a drinking problem. The history is there for all to see. He hasn't gone to rehab and until he does nobody in the NFL is going to want to hire him. I feel sorry for Scot but I can't lay all of the blame for his dismissal on Snyder and Allen.

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[quote=MTK;1167941]This thing sure has gone off the rails eh[/quote]

It is getting old. Bitching about it is dumb. I wish we would sign a big name if just to put this subject to rest.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1167934]Because the guy who put it together was an alcoholic and was letting it affect his job? Otherwise why fire him now, instead of after the draft the way respectable teams do?[/QUOTE]


Again, it wasn't just him that put it together.

As to the timing of the firing it would have been a mess no matter when it happened.

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[quote=mooby;1167934]Because the guy who put it together was an alcoholic and was letting it affect his job? Otherwise why fire him now, instead of after the draft the way respectable teams do?[/quote]

how about because HE decided not to show up for the combine or the start of FA . . . that is effecting your team in a negative way, so why have him here at all then?

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1167948]how about because HE decided not to show up for the combine or the start of FA . . . that is effecting your team in a negative way, so why have him here at all then?[/quote]

Yeah, I would think had he shown up ready to work for the combine, and especially the start of FA, then they would have worked to keep him through the off season. But missing those two events basically forced the team's actions.

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[quote=MTK;1167944]Again, it wasn't just him that put it together.

As to the timing of the firing it would have been a mess no matter when it happened.[/quote]

My only point is that it seemed rushed, like they didn't have a plan. If he's been drinking on the job long enough why not get rid of him after the season? They panicked after all the leaks broke when he wasn't at the combine. They don't have a plan, they are just winging it, and they are more than content to let him take the blame for drinking. If he is truly an alcoholic than by all means its' affecting the job he's supposed to be doing, yet somehow they are more than content following his board (most likely because they have no other choice but to).

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[quote=mooby;1167950]My only point is that it seemed rushed, like they didn't have a plan. If he's been drinking on the job long enough why not get rid of him after the season? They panicked after all the leaks broke when he wasn't at the combine. They don't have a plan, they are just winging it, and they are more than content to let him take the blame for drinking. If he is truly an alcoholic than by all means its' affecting the job he's supposed to be doing, yet somehow they are more than content following his board (most likely because they have no other choice but to).[/quote]

What employer would allow an employee to continue drink on the job? My former employer would call in such an employee and demand that the employee either agree to go into rehab that day or he would be fired on the spot.

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[quote=mooby;1167950]My only point is that it seemed rushed, like they didn't have a plan. If he's been drinking on the job long enough why not get rid of him after the season? They panicked after all the leaks broke when he wasn't at the combine. They don't have a plan, they are just winging it, and they are more than content to let him take the blame for drinking. If he is truly an alcoholic than by all means its' affecting the job he's supposed to be doing, yet somehow they are more than content following his board (most likely because they have no other choice but to).[/quote]

It probably had a lot to do with a difference of opinion over what to do with Cousins, and that decision was looming at the time.