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[quote=SunnySide;1314928]Chris Wallace is respected by many ..... the "trump can do no wrong" folk turned on him bc he didnt bend thy knee like 99% of the other conservative news personalities.[/quote]

While I know that makes him a cult hero to some people, I just don't like the guy. Haven't liked him for a long time. Well before Trump. Glad he is over at CNN.

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[quote=SunnySide;1314928]Chris Wallace is respected by many ..... the "trump can do no wrong" folk turned on him bc he didnt bend thy knee like 99% of the other conservative news personalities.[/quote]

I think most people like Wallace in general, but the way he left was weak. Lotta dumb people hung on a couple quotes to elevate their own biases, so to see him realize what a complete shitshow CNN is after the fact confirms what most people knew, bad move.

But Wallace did own Nikole Hannah-Jones in that interview last week…lol

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1314920]I'm sad because I think CNN+ was a bad idea, which it was, and that I don't like Chris Wallace?

Lol, OK 👍[/quote]

No , you're both sad because you (chico more) bitch about MSM and dishonest media but there is a guy who is honest and because he left your network FOX
because he was tired of the BS now he is an asshole. It proves that you don't want honest media you want your side media.

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[quote=Giantone;1314962]No , you're both sad because you (chico more) bitch about MSM and dishonest media but there is a guy who is honest and because he left your network FOX
because he was tired of the BS now he is an asshole. It proves that you don't want honest media you want your side media.[/quote]

Think you're reading a little too much into me personally not liking 1 particular guy.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1314964]Think you're reading a little too much into me personally not liking 1 particular guy.[/quote]


I admit you're much nicer about it then the drunk uncle but it's the same sentiment.

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[quote=Chico23231;1314899]SOURCE: Chris Wallace is "having daily breakdowns" over the "miserable launch" of @CNNplus. Wants a "CNN show or is threatening to walk" they go on. "He is having staffers count how many times a day his promo is playing"


Lololololol[/quote]

With only 10,000 daily users maybe they should hire Katie Feeney?

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This Twitter thing is hilarious. Somehow Musk is now some white supremacist conservative. Good stuff.

The truth is liberal politicians and media members absolutely fear not having a monopoly of control over all social media.

We love Tesla and the "green" movement, but Musk is for free speech even for conservatives. OMG, OMG...

[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/N_YKaDKFrxYAAAAC/chapelles-show-head-exploding.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1315473]This Twitter thing is hilarious. Somehow Musk is now some white supremacist conservative. Good stuff.

The truth is liberal politicians and media members absolutely fear not having a monopoly of control over all social media.

We love Tesla and the "green" movement, but Musk is for free speech even for conservatives. OMG, OMG...

[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/N_YKaDKFrxYAAAAC/chapelles-show-head-exploding.gif[/IMG][/quote]

I don't watch TV news the only thing I have heard about it is on NPR and they were just the facts. No out rage or support although the programs seemed to be generally viewing as a positive fix.

I don't get the outrage but I also don't get the Republican view that this is a first amendment thing at all. Musk doesn't give a shit about who has a voice. Twitter is his preferred platform he will adjust the algorithm to give himself a greater voice and if you benefit from it so be it, but that twist in algorithm is going to suppress some one else's voice. I do think Musk will some how try to make Twitter more relevant to the younger generation. Being in a high school I can tell you Twitter is about as relevant to teenagers as a CD player is. It less than an after thought it isn't even a thought.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1315478]I don't watch TV news the only thing I have heard about it is on NPR and they were just the facts. No out rage or support although the programs seemed to be generally viewing as a positive fix.

I don't get the outrage but I also don't get the Republican view that this is a first amendment thing at all. Musk doesn't give a shit about who has a voice. Twitter is his preferred platform he will adjust the algorithm to give himself a greater voice and if you benefit from it so be it, but that twist in algorithm is going to suppress some one else's voice. I do think Musk will some how try to make Twitter more relevant to the younger generation. Being in a high school I can tell you Twitter is about as relevant to teenagers as a CD player is. It less than an after thought it isn't even a thought.[/quote]

I don't get the outrage either. As far as I know, Musk is a moderate. Up until this year, a lot of democrats loved him. Now it's like he is public enemy number 1.

I don't know enough about him, so I'll take him at his word, and hope he makes Twitter truly about free speech for everyone and doesn't do what you mentioned. It's gotta be an improvement over what Twitter currently is.

But all I know is what I read about it. I've never had it and won't be joining now just because Musk bought it.

🤷

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Twitter is already a cesspool so it can only go up from here. If it's a disaster people will move on to something else. I could really care less.

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I commend your intrinsic desire to believe people are good SD! I just don't think you become the richest person in the world by being altruistic. Once again I don't have an issue with it or him.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1315473]This Twitter thing is hilarious. Somehow Musk is now some white supremacist conservative. Good stuff.

The truth is liberal politicians and media members absolutely fear not having a monopoly of control over all social media.

We love Tesla and the "green" movement, but Musk is for free speech even for conservatives. OMG, OMG...

[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/N_YKaDKFrxYAAAAC/chapelles-show-head-exploding.gif[/IMG][/quote]

How is the reaction to EM any different then chico's reaction the Bezo buying the Washington Post?

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1315478]I don't watch TV news the only thing I have heard about it is on NPR and they were just the facts. No out rage or support although the programs seemed to be generally viewing as a positive fix.

I don't get the outrage but I also don't get the Republican view that this is a first amendment thing at all. Musk doesn't give a shit about who has a voice. Twitter is his preferred platform he will adjust the algorithm to give himself a greater voice and if you benefit from it so be it, but that twist in algorithm is going to suppress some one else's voice. I do think Musk will some how try to make Twitter more relevant to the younger generation. Being in a high school I can tell you Twitter is about as relevant to teenagers as a CD player is. It less than an after thought it isn't even a thought.[/quote]

So the biggest issue outside of ridiculous banning of certain things which examples are many…is making the open-source the Twitter algorithm

This is the threat to most libs because it reveals the mechanics of throttling of content. It brings transparency.

So you are close, but he’s doing the opposite of what you mention above…unless you believe like me and many others, that Twitter is suppressing opinions….Which Twitter has denied

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Musk is now king turd of shit mountain

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[quote=Chico23231;1315505]So the biggest issue outside of ridiculous banning of certain things which examples are many…is making the open-source the Twitter algorithm

This is the threat to most libs because it reveals the mechanics of throttling of content. It brings transparency.

So you are close, but he’s doing the opposite of what you mention above…unless you believe like me and many others, that Twitter is suppressing opinions….Which Twitter has denied[/quote]

Suppressing facts or stopping made up rumors and untruths?

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[quote=Giantone;1315509]Suppressing facts or stopping made up rumors and untruths?[/quote]

Not just suppressing factual stories but also pushing false narratives or stories that align with woke agenda or identity politics

See the recent Border Crossing agents who were falsely accused of whipping Haitian illegals crossing the border. That story was amplified with Twitter and it was a totally lie.

I just hope Twitter employees aren’t burning documents…the public should be allowed to see how it was being run. Total shitshow. Elon will get it done.

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[quote=Giantone;1315509]Suppressing facts or stopping made up rumors and untruths?[/quote]

They did both.

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[quote=Chico23231;1315525]Not just suppressing factual stories but also pushing false narratives or stories that align with woke agenda or identity politics

See the recent Border Crossing agents who were falsely accused of whipping Haitian illegals crossing the border. That story was amplified with Twitter and it was a totally lie.

I just hope Twitter employees aren’t burning documents…the public should be allowed to see how it was being run. Total shitshow. Elon will get it done.[/quote]

Do you get your news from social media?

For God's sake I hope not. Everybody in the world should know better. Any idiot can put something on the internet. It's even worse if you take the share feed from another idiot and lend credence to it.

Stay off social media for news and current events. Unless you like being wrong all the time.

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[quote=Schneed10;1315527]Do you get your news from social media?

For God's sake I hope not. Everybody in the world should know better. Any idiot can put something on the internet. It's even worse if you take the share feed from another idiot and lend credence to it.

Stay off social media for news and current events. Unless you like being wrong all the time.[/quote]

.......................it fits him to a T.

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[quote=Schneed10;1315527]Do you get your news from social media?

For God's sake I hope not. Everybody in the world should know better. Any idiot can put something on the internet. It's even worse if you take the share feed from another idiot and lend credence to it.

Stay off social media for news and current events. Unless you like being wrong all the time.[/quote]

Well my referenced story of border agents on resulted in the White House taking action against them within 48 hours

So it seems the current administration is getting their news from the trending pages

But everyone should be skeptical what they read from any social media platform. Major news corporations are fighting space and journalist have boosted their own brand from it. For better or worst it’s been the direction we are headed.

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[U]The media bubble is real: Study shows massive disconnect between journalists, public[/U]

[url]https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3532405-the-media-bubble-is-real-study-shows-massive-disconnect-between-journalists-public/[/url]

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[quote=nonniey;1317860][U]The media bubble is real: Study shows massive disconnect between journalists, public[/U]

[url]https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3532405-the-media-bubble-is-real-study-shows-massive-disconnect-between-journalists-public/[/url][/quote]

Not the media , it's the stupidity of the public they serve. Most supply facts it's what the reader/viewer does with that info that is the problem. Not to say there are not crappy journalist(Tucker, Hannity) out there same as with any profession. The ignorance /laziness of the consumer to think on their own is the problem.

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[quote=nonniey;1317860][U]The media bubble is real: Study shows massive disconnect between journalists, public[/U]

[url]https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3532405-the-media-bubble-is-real-study-shows-massive-disconnect-between-journalists-public/[/url][/quote]

I heard an interview about a month ago which raised a root cause which hadn’t crossed my mind and the author hits on it here:

Longtime newsman Bob Schieffer dove into this subject a few years back, explaining just how insulated journalists have become.

“In 2004, one reporter in eight lived in New York, Washington, or Los Angeles,” Schieffer notes in his must-read book “Overload: Finding the Truth in Today’s Deluge of News.” “That number is now down to one-in-five who live in those three places.”

Schieffer saw another problem: The massive decrease of local reporters due to shrinking budgets.

He writes, “While no solutions seem obvious, there is general agreement throughout the industry that if local newspapers go away and some entity does not rise to do what we have come to expect of them—that is, keep an eye on local government—we will experience corruption at levels we have never seen.”
Since 2004, approximately 1,800 newspapers have shut down because of the collapse of print advertising and readers turning to more convenient online consumption. Fewer reporters and editors has resulted in less trust as news gathering becomes more and more confined to two or three cities.

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“The New York Times, which hasn’t endorsed a Republican presidential candidate in 66 years, or at The Washington Post, which has never endorsed a Republican presidential candidate”

Clearly these are extremely biased news sources…

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[quote=Chico23231;1317864]I heard an interview about a month ago which raised a root cause which hadn’t crossed my mind and the author hits on it here:

Longtime newsman Bob Schieffer dove into this subject a few years back, explaining just how insulated journalists have become.

“In 2004, one reporter in eight lived in New York, Washington, or Los Angeles,” Schieffer notes in his must-read book “Overload: Finding the Truth in Today’s Deluge of News.” “That number is now down to one-in-five who live in those three places.”

Schieffer saw another problem: The massive decrease of local reporters due to shrinking budgets.

He writes, “While no solutions seem obvious, there is general agreement throughout the industry that if local newspapers go away and some entity does not rise to do what we have come to expect of them—that is, keep an eye on local government—we will experience corruption at levels we have never seen.”
Since 2004, approximately 1,800 newspapers have shut down because of the collapse of print advertising and readers turning to more convenient online consumption. Fewer reporters and editors has resulted in less trust as news gathering becomes more and more confined to two or three cities.[/quote]



Sorry but IMO , no. With the internet and social media there are more "reporters" / blogger's" then ever, more outlets to get news and it's easier. Again as I stated before the consumer needs to educate themselves. I will add that I do my part , I buy three to four newspapers a week.

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[url]https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart[/url]

[IMG]https://www.allsides.com/sites/default/files/AllSidesMediaBiasChart-Version6_0.jpg[/IMG]

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[IMG]https://adfontesmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Media-Bias-Chart-9.0_Jan-2022-Unlicensed-Social-Media_Hi_Res-scaled.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Giantone;1317866]Sorry but IMO , no. With the internet and social media there are more "reporters" / blogger's" then ever, more outlets to get news and it's easier. Again as I stated before [B]the consumer needs to educate themselves[/B]. I will add that I do my part , I buy three to four newspapers a week.[/quote]

That is the quandary. I think for the most part people do try to educate themselves, but end up with misinformation and spin due to the overwhelming bias of the most popular news outlets. It's real hard to believe what you see and hear anymore - and even the "fact-checkers" need fact-checking now.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1317868][IMG]https://adfontesmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Media-Bias-Chart-9.0_Jan-2022-Unlicensed-Social-Media_Hi_Res-scaled.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

This might be the only thing we agree on politically Chief. I think that scale is accurate.

I also have social media but don't get any mainstream news for it, mine is strictly for keeping up with friends/family and sharing memes.

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[quote=mooby;1317876]This might be the only thing we agree on politically Chief. I think that scale is accurate.

[B]I also have social media but don't get any mainstream news for it, mine is strictly for keeping up with friends/family[/B] and sharing memes.[/quote]

Same here.

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[quote=mooby;1317876]This might be the only thing we agree on politically Chief. I think that scale is accurate.

I also have social media but don't get any mainstream news for it, mine is strictly for keeping up with friends/family and sharing memes.[/quote]

I don't know how accurate those scales are, but they are from two different sources. They do seem fairly similar, and probably about right - just from a cursory look and without any investigation.

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[quote=Chico23231;1317865]“The New York Times, which hasn’t endorsed a Republican presidential candidate in 66 years, or at The Washington Post, which has never endorsed a Republican presidential candidate”

Clearly these are extremely biased news sources…[/quote]

LOL, under what Ownership?

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Well neither side has a monopoly on idiotic questions (and in this case I mean really idiotic).

[url]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/06/26/cnn_host_asks_students_for_life_president_how_are_you_going_to_help_children_who_will_now_be_forced_to_be_born.html[/url]

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I could but this in a number of threads but I thought chico would like this best since he is a FOX die hard.

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/jan-6-hearing-dominates-top-044650392.html[/url]

[B]Jan. 6 hearing dominates top TV networks — except one[/B]

[SIZE="6"][B]ONE![/B][/SIZE]

NEW YORK (AP) — America's top television networks on Thursday turned prime time over to a gripping account of former President Donald Trump's actions during the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol — with one prominent exception.

The top-rated news network, Fox News Channel, stuck with its own lineup of commentators. Sean Hannity denounced the “show trial” elsewhere on TV just as he was featured in it, with the House's Jan. 6 committee examining his tweets to Trump administration figures.

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Fact check: Social media post shows fabricated story about Biden and the economy
Ana Faguy, USA TODAY
Mon, August 8, 2022 at 12:01 PM

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-social-media-post-160104407.html[/url]

The claim: Image shows headline of story in The Atlantic praising Biden for having the courage to shrink the economy
In July, the Commerce Department reported the economy shrank for a second straight quarter, stoking recession worries. President Joe Biden has rejected that description and has taken steps to strengthen the economy.

Nevertheless, a July 30 Facebook post has helped spread the false notion that Biden has purposefully hurt the economy and wants to see it contract. It shows an image of fabricated headlines from a nonexistent article by The Atlantic. The post was shared more than 100 times in four days.

The headline of the purported story reads, "The Quiet Courage of Biden's Negative Growth Economy."

The supposed subheadline reads: "In an era of unchecked economic prosperity, one man had the moxie to pump the brakes - to save us from ourselves."

But a spokesperson for The Atlantic told USA TODAY the article and the headlines in the image are fabricated.

The Atlantic headline is not real
The image in the social media post does not depict real headlines, and The Atlantic never wrote such a story, Anna Bross, a spokesperson for The Atlantic said.

"We have reported this as fake and as a trademark infringement," Bross told USA TODAY in an email.

The story was not published on The Atlantic's website and does not appear on The Atlantic's Twitter account.

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^the take away from the Atlantic should be why are readers believing that’s a true headline.

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[quote=Chico23231;1319137]^the take away from the Atlantic should be why are readers believing that’s a true headline.[/quote]

Why do you believe what trump says?

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[quote=Giantone;1319141]Why do you believe what trump says?[/quote]

What does the story that was apparently not published on The Atlantic's website have to do with Trump? Or do you just strive to include the word "trump" in all your posts...

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319143]What does the story that was apparently not published on The Atlantic's website have to do with Trump? Or do you just strive to include the word "trump" in all your posts...[/quote]


Ahhhhhhhhhhh the chico defender has arrived. chico and you(and others) the "Town criers of all that is trump" bitch moan cry and complain about the media this or that chico being his ignorant self thinks that readers of the Atlantic are lied to no matter what according to his comment ignoring the fact that it was not the Atlantic at all but a phony made up lie about Biden. Since he , you and a few others here are trumps sheep and follow his every command I think that it is very relevant to point out that you listen to all he says and does without question, you "believe what he says like you would believe that article becuase it was a negative about Biden. In simple I will point out every hypocrisies I can with the trump sheep in any and all bitching becuase they deserve it. You fail to realize I can use trump becuase in all these situations...it's true and is relevant. chico was just too dumb to tell the difference between bias media [B]FOX[/B] and a photo shopped made up lie.

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[quote=Giantone;1319149]Ahhhhhhhhhhh the chico defender has arrived. chico and you(and others) the "Town criers of all that is [U][B]trump[/B][/U]" bitch moan cry and complain about the media this or that chico being his ignorant self thinks that readers of the Atlantic are lied to no matter what according to his comment ignoring the fact that it was not the Atlantic at all but a phony made up lie about Biden. Since he , you and a few others here are [U][B]trumps[/B][/U] sheep and follow his every command I think that it is very relevant to point out that you listen to all he says and does without question, you "believe what he says like you would believe that article becuase it was a negative about Biden. In simple I will point out every hypocrisies I can with the [U][B]trump[/B][/U] sheep in any and all bitching becuase they deserve it. You fail to realize I can use [U][B]trump[/B][/U] becuase in all these situations...it's true and is relevant. chico was just too dumb to tell the difference between bias media [B]FOX[/B] and a photo shopped made up lie.[/quote]

That answers one of my questions.