Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

I say give Shanahan a 2 year extension with the stipulation that he needs to replace Haslett and Burns and not hire any former Broncos coaches or players from his days there.

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1040812]I say give Shanahan a 2 year extension with the stipulation that he needs to replace Haslett and Burns and not hire any former Broncos coaches or players from his days there.[/quote]

If Kyle were to leave I wouldn't be opposed to Kubiak as OC, assuming he is fired in HOU.

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Redskins new head coach should be..... Darrell Bevell

But...

His offense already benefits what type of roster we have, and he's a hard knock guy.

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;1032687]The head coach and both coordinators do not add anything on game day.

Kyle is going to get a lot of credit for building the offense that is mimmicked across america on Saturdays. He's going to have employment for life. He doesn't need this specific job. He'll land on his feet.

Haslett might be nearing the end as an NFL coach. I don't think he's been that bad of a defensive coordinator. His schemes are mostly hit or miss. I just don't know what he's adding at this point for the trouble.

I don't even know what Mike Shanahan does on gamedays anymore. If you hid him in the locker room and made us play without a head coach for three quarters, I doubt anyone on earth could tell you which quarter he was present for. He's invisible.[/quote]

Mike on game days is there to scream at refs and get redder in the face.
If Kyle is respected elsewhere, then send him on his way. I don't see how building an offense around a QB and misusing him in the nfl is something to advance a career. Why aren't we trying to build a dynasty around our franchise QB? This wreck less shanahan read option only makes sense if we have 3 RG3's on the roster. What team would really draft a read option QB year in and out, when they ought to find a pocket passer and protect him?

Sundays shouldn't be an extension of Saturdays.

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

[quote=Bucket;1040815]Redskins new head coach should be..... Darrell Bevell

But...

His offense already benefits what type of roster we have, and he's a hard knock guy.[/quote]

Roman, Shaw and Bevell are my candidates, but I say give Shanahan the chance to do something with cap space money. My only concern is who he selects as his D coordinator, it better be good like Zimmerman, Manusky, Fewell.

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

[quote=The Goat;1040810]Carroll

a) added talent to an already talented team to make it a contender in three seasons

b) built a contender from nothing in three seasons

c) something between choices a or b

My answer: hire the next Pete Carroll for HC.

He's out there somewhere...[/quote]

Carroll turned that roster over very effectively, and very quickly.

I just don't agree they had much talent to begin with, he pretty much gutted that team. If anything you should give him more credit for really putting his stamp on them. He's also one of the few guys in the league along with Shanahan that has almost total control. I thought you weren't a fan of that setup?

[quote][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Carroll]Pete Carroll - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

On the morning of January 9, 2010, Carroll reportedly came to agreement with the Seahawks on a 5-year contract that would appoint him as head coach.[69] He was officially hired as the Seahawks head coach on January 11.[44] He was also named executive vice president of football operations, effectively making him the Seahawks' general manager as well. While the Seahawks have a general manager in John Schneider, he serves mainly in an advisory role to Carroll, who has the final say in football matters. In fact, Schneider was actually hired by Carroll--a rare case of the head coach hiring the general manager. He is one of four current NFL coaches who also have the title or powers of general manager, along with the Patriots' Bill Belichick, Washington Redskins' Mike Shanahan and Kansas City Chiefs Andy Reid.

In his first season, Carroll almost completely overturned the Seahawks roster, totaling over 200 transactions in the course of only one season. However, these moves paved the way for a 4–2 start to the 2010 season.[/quote]

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

Where would Seattle be had they rolled with Matt Flynn as their QB?

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

Bud Kilmer

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

[quote=Mattyk;1040819]Carroll turned that roster over very effectively, and very quickly.

I just don't agree they had much talent to begin with, he pretty much gutted that team. If anything you should give him more credit for really putting his stamp on them. He's also one of the few guys in the league along with Shanahan that has almost total control. I thought you weren't a fan of that setup?[/quote]

PC did turnover the roster but they had some decent talent when he came in since they won their division in 2003,4,5,6,7 and went to SB XL in 2006. Obviously the were a perennial playoff contender when he took over. Not quite the case when MS took over the Skins.

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

[quote=irish;1040844]PC did turnover the roster but they had some decent talent when he came in since they won their division in 2003,4,5,6,7 and went to SB XL in 2006. [B]Obviously the were a perennial playoff contender when he took over.[/B] Not quite the case when MS took over the Skins.[/quote]

Not quite. They were coming off a 5 win season in 2009 and a 4 win season in 2008.

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

At this point extend him and give him a 'normal' offseason without reduced free agency (2010), lockout (2011), cap penalty (2012) and cap penalty + franchise QB recovering from surgery (2013). I get that it's making excuses but they also cannot be ignored when evaluating the team and results, especially considering the dumpster fire he inherited. Give him a 1-2 yr extension (with the contingency he replace Burns and probably Haslett) so it doesn't scare off free agents, if he craps the bed again next year just pull the chute then.

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

[quote=Mattyk;1040846]Not quite. They were coming off a 5 win season in 2009 and a 4 win season in 2008.[/quote]

Wow, I am amazed anyone would think a team that made the playoffs in 5 of 7 years and went to a SB wasnt a perennial playoff contender.

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

[quote=irish;1040849]Wow, I am amazed anyone would think a team that made the playoffs in 5 of 7 years and went to a SB wasnt a perennial playoff contender.[/quote]

That team was in serious decline by the time he got there, why do you think they hired a new HC that came in and cleaned house?

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

[quote=Mattyk;1040855]That team was in serious decline by the time he got there, why do you think they hired a new HC that came in and cleaned house?[/quote]

What you say is true but that doesnt take away the fact that they had been making regular playoff appearances and a SB. The bottom line is that when PC went to Seattle their team/organization was no where near as destroyed as what MS took over when he came to Wash. Nobody could turn around almost 20 years of demolition in 3 or 4 years.

Re: Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?
 

[quote=irish;1040857]What you say is true but that doesnt take away the fact that they had been making regular playoff appearances and a SB. The bottom line is that when PC went to Seattle their team/organization was no where near as destroyed as what MS took over when he came to Wash. Nobody could turn around almost 20 years of demolition in 3 or 4 years.[/quote]

I'm having trouble understanding how a SB run in 2005 contributed in any way to Carroll totally revamping that team 5 years later. Again, that team was in decline when he got there, he flipped the roster and built a winner from top to bottom in that organization.

I can see if he came in and made minimal changes, but he didn't. He gutted that team from day one. Past success or failures had nothing to do with him turning them around.

It's quite possible to turn a team around in 3-4 years. Carroll is proof of that.