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It's tough to evaluate Turner's job when he had to play multiple QBs within two years, so I am not sure how to feel about this.

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[quote=GridIron26;1312797]It's tough to evaluate Turner's job when he had to play multiple QBs within two years, so I am not sure how to feel about this.[/quote]

[URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-270-commanders-are-extending-scott-turner-commanders/id1553345193?i=1000553926957"]Al Galdi had an interesting take about tha[/URL]t: maybe the point is to say to Carson Wentz "this is the coach you're gonna work with, and he's here to stay, so play along and everything will be fine".
Don't know if there's any truth to that, but the timing has to make you wonder.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1312801][URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-270-commanders-are-extending-scott-turner-commanders/id1553345193?i=1000553926957"]Al Galdi had an interesting take about tha[/URL]t: maybe the point is to say to Carson Wentz "this is the coach you're gonna work with, and he's here to stay, so play along and everything will be fine".
Don't know if there's any truth to that, but the timing has to make you wonder.[/quote]


I can't hear but I think I understand the point of that part based on what you typed. In some games, I can see Turner called right plays but QB didn't read it correctly or whatever. And in a few other games, Turner called bad plays. I just hope the extension for Turner is not for multiple years.

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Signing a new contract wont stop them from firing him if they think he is the problem, obviously they dont right now but it is not like there is a coaches salary cap to manage

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[quote=GridIron26;1312817]I can't hear but I think I understand the point of that part based on what you typed. In some games, I can see Turner called right plays but QB didn't read it correctly or whatever. And in a few other games, Turner called bad plays. [B]I just hope the extension for Turner is not for multiple years[/B].[/quote]

[URL="https://nfltraderumors.co/commanders-signing-oc-scott-turner-to-three-year-extension/"]3years, through 2024.[/URL]

[quote=EdmundDorf]Signing a new contract wont stop them from firing him if they think he is the problem, obviously they dont right now but it is not like there is a coaches salary cap to manage[/quote]

True. But if they do have some concerns/questions about Wentz' coachability, then it sure won't hurt to reenforce your OC's position a bit.

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Thanks French.

Edmund - you are correct, it's not big deal if we sign a coach to multiple years and then fire him before the contract expires. It's just that Rivera is well known for being loyal (I'm the same way and I eventually learned that being loyal to a fault can be harmful) so I hope Rivera will not stick with Turner too long if he continues to show little to nothing next year.

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Turner hasn't had jack shit to work with at QB so far, and yet the offensive rankings last year weren't all that bad and actually improved from the year before. I'm fine with giving him an extension.

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[quote=MTK;1312953]Turner hasn't had jack shit to work with at QB so far, and yet the offensive rankings last year weren't all that bad and actually improved from the year before. I'm fine with giving him an extension.[/quote]

I think we will see Wentz with Turner throughout his contract

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[quote=GridIron26;1312952]Thanks French.

Edmund - you are correct, it's not big deal if we sign a coach to multiple years and then fire him before the contract expires. It's just that Rivera is well known for being loyal (I'm the same way and I eventually learned that being loyal to a fault can be harmful) so I hope Rivera will not stick with Turner too long if he continues to show little to nothing next year.[/quote]

Yes I totally agree, being overly loyal maybe Rons biggest weakness , whether with players or coaches.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1312967]Yes I totally agree, being overly loyal maybe Rons biggest weakness , whether with players or coaches.[/quote]

I think Ron is loyal. I thought for sure hed switch to Allen after the bye but he didnt and we won 4 straight, giving the team a fun hyped up 4 weeks throwing stones at whiteboards, JDR winning in raiders.

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Isnt "overly" kinda baked into the "loyal" pie? Can you be overly loyal .. or isnt that just loyal?

Like "absolutely quiet" .. isnt "quiet" by its definition "quiet". Theres no levels to quiet. It is either quiet or its not. quiet = absolutely quiet

Youre either loyal or youre not.

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McVay got to a SB and made the playoffs a couple times w/Goff. Kyle has also been to one SB and one game from another w/ Jimmy G.

I would put the current Wentz a little better than both of them. You make this kind of move Ron plus extent your OC then you have to get to the playoffs this year. If those guys are making it w/ not as good of a QB then Ron should. Fair or not that is how I would judge him this year.

Especially the 49ers. You can argue Kyle is getting more out of his roster than anyone in the league. Ron, Scott and Jack need to do better.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1312975]McVay got to a SB and made the playoffs a couple times w/Goff. Kyle has also been to one SB and one game from another w/ Jimmy G.

I would put the current Wentz a little better than both of them. You make this kind of move Ron plus extent your OC then you have to get to the playoffs this year. If those guys are making it w/ not as good of a QB then Ron should. Fair or not that is how I would judge him this year.

Especially the 49ers. You can argue Kyle is getting more out of his roster than anyone in the league. Ron, Scott and Jack need to do better.[/quote]

I'd definitely take Wentz over Goff and Jimmy G.

Ron needs a big step forward kind of season. Double digit wins and a win in the playoffs or he's going to be feeling some serious heat.

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[quote=SunnySide;1312971]I think Ron is loyal. I thought for sure hed switch to Allen after the bye but he didnt and we won 4 straight, giving the team a fun hyped up 4 weeks throwing stones at whiteboards, JDR winning in raiders.

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Non football related ...

Isnt "overly" kinda baked into the "loyal" pie? Can you be overly loyal .. or isnt that just loyal?

Like "absolutely quiet" .. isnt "quiet" by its definition "quiet". Theres no levels to quiet. It is either quiet or its not. quiet = absolutely quiet

Youre either loyal or youre not.[/quote]

Haha, yes good point.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1312978]Haha, yes good point.[/quote]

Thanks for receiving my non sequitor well, was worried my attempt at coffee table talk might be taken as nit picky .. hard to tell on the internet sometimes

cheers

edit - wish we had a "like" or thumbs up button I could just "like" your response wout having to write out "thank you notes"

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[quote=SunnySide;1312979]Thanks for receiving my non sequitor well, was worried my attempt at coffee table talk might be taken as nit picky .. hard to tell on the internet sometimes

cheers

edit - wish we had a "like" or thumbs up button I could just "like" your response wout having to write out "thank you notes"[/quote]

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