Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

I will post a video within the next few days Beck throwing against Arizona and New York during the Preseason and will further attempt to get him throwing against Atlanta during the 09 Preseason. However for now I'm just going to focus on the Jets and Cardinals.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;803718]Not that I'm agreeing necessarily with you anti-VY stance, but I do agree that Redskin fans especially should see how much of a crock the Pro Bowl can be.

Anyway at the very least he does win games, even if they're mostly against cup cakes, and he does have the physical tools. I think with us the perfect situation right now is a two year contract where he learns for most of year 1, and if things go to hell again get a Grossman like tryout near the end.[/quote]

I've seen where Young is great. I haven't seen it from Beck. Yes, Young is unpredictable and who knows how he'd handle the pressure here. But give me high-risk, high-reward over medium risk-medium reward anytime.

I'd like to see them re-sign Grossman and sign Young. Start Grossman until they feel Young is ready then drop Rex to #3 and start Young with Beck as the #2. Then next year let Rex walk and draft a young QB to be the #3 and QB of the future.

I mean honestly I don't want Beck in the equation, but I don't think he's going anywhere even if he's not starting

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;803732]I've seen where Young is great. I haven't seen it from Beck. Yes, Young is unpredictable and who knows how he'd handle the pressure here. But give me high-risk, high-reward over medium risk-medium reward anytime.

I'd like to see them re-sign Grossman and sign Young. Start Grossman until they feel Young is ready then drop Rex to #3 and start Young with Beck as the #2. Then next year let Rex walk and draft a young QB to be the #3 and QB of the future.

I mean honestly I don't want Beck in the equation, but I don't think he's going anywhere even if he's not starting[/quote]

In watching him in the preseason games (which I'll post video of within the next few days) he has great accuracy on short quick throws. His deep balls on the other hand worry me. Part of me thinks that it's more from a lack of experience with the offense at the time he was playing, at least I hope thats what it was.

However the good news is no more dirt balls, as Theisman said during the preseason he has a quick fluid release and likes to get the ball out of his hands, which will help that high sack total we've been dealing with the past few years. Assuming he starts of course.

I think the main thing to look out for is how well Beck adjust to downfield passing plays in our offense. He has the arm, now it's more of a case of knowing where everyone is as that seemed to be the root of the majority of his mistakes during preseason. At the very least he remains an intriguing option in my eyes, and in a year like this why not?

On a side note I'm starting to think the team should strongly, STRONGLY, consider starting Erik Cook at Center. Might be playing against the Jets second stringers but he's not getting pushed back into the pocket. Plus it looks cool having a tall Center when they walk up to the line :FIREdevil

Side Side note: Wonder if they bring back Bartel to compete for the 3rd string QB spot with the shortened offseason and all :D

I prefer to call mcnabbs passes bounce passes. Ah, may have to change my avatar.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;803732]I've seen where Young is great. I haven't seen it from Beck. Yes, Young is unpredictable and [B]who knows how he'd handle the pressure here.[/B] But give me high-risk, high-reward over medium risk-medium reward anytime.

I'd like to see them re-sign Grossman and sign Young. Start Grossman until they feel Young is ready then drop Rex to #3 and start Young with Beck as the #2. Then next year let Rex walk and draft a young QB to be the #3 and QB of the future.

I mean honestly I don't want Beck in the equation, but I don't think he's going anywhere even if he's not starting[/quote]

He would not be able to handle it here. No freakin' way. The guy is too immature and is soft as butter.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;803732]I've seen where Young is great. I haven't seen it from Beck. Yes, Young is unpredictable and who knows how he'd handle the pressure here. But give me high-risk, high-reward over medium risk-medium reward anytime.

I mean honestly I don't want Beck in the equation, but I don't think he's going anywhere even if he's not starting[/quote]


The reason you haven't seen Beck be great is because he hasn't had the opportunity. You put VY on that same Miami team and he'll be lucky to walk away without permanent injury. Beck wasn't fortunate like VY where he's had a owner that pressed for him being picked at the #3 spot and pretty much forcing their coach to play him the whole time. I'd imagine you'd see Beck perform on many occasions had he been on the Titans.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=skinsfan69;803739]He would not be able to handle it here. No freakin' way. The guy is too immature and is soft as butter.[/quote]

Whether VY is "soft as butter" or not, I don't know if I'd put it all on him. After all, Fisher ended up leaving too. But I agree w/your general assessment, how will Young handle Shananhan's stern, no nonsense approach?

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

My personel opinion is that we may go after a Matt Hasselbach(SP). Shanny knows a lot is riding on this season, and he has to improve. I think with the expectations being somewhat scaled back than in previous seasons, if shanny can make a splash with a veteran QB this coming season, get to 500 or a game better, he can draft a QB next season, sit behind hasselbach a year and learn. We have money to spend this season, and according to sources we are going to spend it when the time comes. which means a QB, CB, and Olineman.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=freddyg12;803745]Whether VY is "soft as butter" or not, I don't know if I'd put it all on him. After all, Fisher ended up leaving too. But I agree w/your general assessment, how will Young handle Shananhan's stern, no nonsense approach?[/quote]

A big reason why Fischer left is because he was trying to bring his son more into the picture than what Bud Adams allows. Hence the breakdown between them even after Bud said VY wasn't coming back.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=NC_Skins;803742]The reason you haven't seen Beck be great is because he hasn't had the opportunity. You put VY on that same Miami team and he'll be lucky to walk away without permanent injury. Beck wasn't fortunate like VY where he's had a owner that pressed for him being picked at the #3 spot and pretty much forcing their coach to play him the whole time. I'd imagine you'd see Beck perform on many occasions had he been on the Titans.[/quote]

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/john-beck-facts/2011/05/19/AFoh2J7G_blog.html[/url]

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=skinsfan69;803739]He would not be able to handle it here. No freakin' way. The guy is too immature and is soft as butter.[/quote]

Maybe a change of scenery would do him good. I don't think he's quite as immature as he's portrayed to be

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=NC_Skins;803742]The reason you haven't seen Beck be great is because he hasn't had the opportunity. You put VY on that same Miami team and he'll be lucky to walk away without permanent injury. Beck wasn't fortunate like VY where he's had a owner that pressed for him being picked at the #3 spot and pretty much forcing their coach to play him the whole time. I'd imagine you'd see Beck perform on many occasions had he been on the Titans.[/quote]

Some see it as he didn't get the opportunity, I see it as he didn't take advantage of the opportunity

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

This is a good omen when SS has reservations or mixed emotions about a player. Remember last time??

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;803762]Some see it as he didn't get the opportunity, I see it as he didn't take advantage of the opportunity[/quote]

I might would agree with you, but you are missing one key point. Three different QBs played that same season and all had the same results. Tells me it wasn't the QB spot.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=Longtimefan;803764]This is a good omen when SS has reservations or mixed emotions about a player. Remember last time??[/quote]

Uh I don't actually. Probably that other Mormon...Maake

note: I don't have any problem with Mormons, so don't get it twisted