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DYoungJelly 12-29-2018 09:04 PM

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[QUOTE=mooby;1215117]Idk, maybe it's just me but there's a difference between knowing the game and being able to teach others the game. The former is being a great player and the latter is being a great coach.



Just to use the most recent example that comes to mind, Adam Oates was a HOFer for the Caps, by all accounts knew the game, but he was absolutely atrocious as a coach.[/QUOTE]Fair point.

What have you thought about his evaluations of draft picks and FA's?

He has usually been spot on with how they will fit in and contribute based on my recollection.

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CRedskinsRule 12-29-2018 09:35 PM

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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1215079]I’m 99 percent confident Allen will no longer be in his current role by Monday.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]People are going to be disappointed, if Bruce Allen was going to be fired or moved in the organization it would have been with the mass Purge that just happened. He wasn't moved, he wasn't fired, his position wasn't changed. Nothing's changing with Allen just accept it.

5superbowls3wins 12-29-2018 09:41 PM

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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1215114]The firings were Snyder’s call, not Allen’s, although I’m sure he didn’t mind.

If Allen stays as team president, he certainly doesn’t know it yet. Loverro reported that Allen is fearful for his job and that he and jays decision to get rid of Swearinger was a “Hail Mary” attempt at maintaining some semblance of control.

I would be shocked if Allen isn’t removed from his current job... perhaps just a little over 24 hours from now.


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You seem to have inside sources or something the way you speak. You’ve said a few times that Allen is surely gone. What makes you so certain?


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5superbowls3wins 12-29-2018 09:43 PM

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1215122]People are going to be disappointed, if Bruce Allen was going to be fired or moved in the organization it would have been with the mass Purge that just happened. He wasn't moved, he wasn't fired, his position wasn't changed. Nothing's changing with Allen just accept it.[/QUOTE]



Agreed. I’ve said the same thing. I can understand why Snyder would keep Gruden and Manusky until the end of the season, but there is NOTHING stopping him from firing or reassigning Bruce. If he was going to do it he would have by now.


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mooby 12-29-2018 09:47 PM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1215118]Fair point.

What have you thought about his evaluations of draft picks and FA's?

He has usually been spot on with how they will fit in and contribute based on my recollection.

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To be fair, I don't listen to enough of Cooley on the regular to form a basis of opinion on him.

I see his content that's reposted here about tidbits from the game, or play breakdowns where he points out the flaws/successes and I generally agree with it, but that's about it.

All I got is I agree that he knows the game and is a good analyst about it, but can't conclude definitively that would make him a great coach. Great coaching is more about connecting with the players and putting things in terms that makes it easy for them to learn and remember. The truly great coaches also gameplan for players' individual strengths so they can maximize their strengths and minimize their weaknesses.

TL;DR: there's only one way to find out if he'd be a good coach. But I don't want to be the team to do it. As much as I hate to say it, I'd rather we bring in a guy without any connections to this franchise. I don't see DS being comfortable with outside NFL talent though. Also Chico made a good point, if Cooley was to come on staff here he needs to start at the bottom and work his way up the ranks. Man's never been an NFL coach before.

mooby 12-29-2018 09:51 PM

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1215124]Agreed. I’ve said the same thing. I can understand why Snyder would keep Gruden and Manusky until the end of the season, [B]but there is NOTHING stopping him from firing or reassigning Bruce[/B]. If he was going to do it he would have by now.


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I agree. GM isn't one of those positions teams typically wait until the end of the season to fire someone. He should have been fired weeks ago, that way we could get a head start on other teams that will also have an opening (and probably a more attractive opening than ours)

5superbowls3wins 12-29-2018 09:55 PM

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Jim Harbaugh and Todd Bowles anyone?


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DYoungJelly 12-29-2018 10:21 PM

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[url]https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1079168404236525568?s=20[/url]

This dude is a big J journalist, not a gossip guy.

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5superbowls3wins 12-29-2018 10:30 PM

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1215129][url]https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1079168404236525568?s=20[/url]

This dude is a big J journalist, not a gossip guy.

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Oh thank God. Maybe Kyle Smith to GM?


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BigHairedAristocrat 12-30-2018 12:15 AM

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For what it’s worth, Cooley was on sheehans podcast yesterday and mentioned he was on his way to redskins park and at another point in the interview said he was going to hang out with “Danny” later in the day.

Cooley’s taking some sort of job with the team.


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BigHairedAristocrat 12-30-2018 12:17 AM

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1215129][url]https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1079168404236525568?s=20[/url]

This dude is a big J journalist, not a gossip guy.

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Yes, Kevin Sheehan and Thom Loverro have been indicating this for a while


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sdskinsfan2001 12-30-2018 12:31 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1215115]I need to come in as assistant to the traveling secretary[/quote]

And let your secretary do all the work!

"I'm giving you a raaaaaaiiiiiisssseeeee!"

BigHairedAristocrat 12-30-2018 12:37 AM

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1215123]You seem to have inside sources or something the way you speak. You’ve said a few times that Allen is surely gone. What makes you so certain?


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I don’t have sources. I’m just a fan that has a long commute and listen to Kevin sheehans podcast. Kevin and Thom Loverro are connected. Thom has directly stated things he’s heard from sources and kevin goes out of his way to say says his sources aren’t telling him anything but then says things where you know he is relaying inside info.

Between what’s been directly been stated and what’s been hinted at, Bruce Allen is out on the football side but will continue working on the stadium (whether as someone still employed by the team or as an external consultant), Jay is staying as HC for next year (while the new regime figures out what to do) and football ops will be run by some combination of Kyle Smith and Eric Shaffer. One of them may get a GM or president of football ops title.

Separately from recent news, There have also been hints that Cooley could be taking a job with the team for some time. It used to be something they’d joke relatively open about, and then Cooley said he couldn’t talk about it, and lately he’s been very “politically correct” in all things relating Bruce’s job and performance.

Im hoping Kyle will be GM and Cooley will end up with a position under him, but i also have a fear that Kyle is moving in to greener pastures as a GM elsewhere and Cooley will be our GM in a PR move Snyder hopes will win over fans (dude is smart, but despite elway and lynch having some success, i don’t know if Cooley is quite ready for that yet).


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FrenchSkin 12-30-2018 03:19 AM

Re: Time to clean house 1.0.
 
[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1215122]People are going to be disappointed, if Bruce Allen was going to be fired or moved in the organization it would have been with the mass Purge that just happened. He wasn't moved, he wasn't fired, his position wasn't changed. Nothing's changing with Allen just accept it.[/QUOTE]I don't know if that is "a purge". As Sheehan said a couple of days ago, in 31 out of 32 organisations, the firing of a couple of business guys isn't even a news, fans don't know their names.
Dysfunction in this organisation leads us to react to everything, but I don't know that those firings were an indication either way...

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KI Skins Fan 12-30-2018 09:40 AM

Re: Time to clean house 1.0.
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1215122]People are going to be disappointed, if Bruce Allen was going to be fired or moved in the organization it would have been with the mass Purge that just happened. He wasn't moved, he wasn't fired, his position wasn't changed. Nothing's changing with Allen just accept it.[/quote]

There is little to support your contention. Allen might be fired after the season is over.


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