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[quote=TexSkins;884906]It would be nice to have a young QB learning from Manning. I think they need to have 3 QBS on the active roster this year. Manning, Grossman (ugh), Rookie[/quote]

While I agree with you, why Grossman and not Beck? Grossman is a FA and we've seen his 'best'. Why not just keep Beck in his final year of the contract, give him a full offseason and have him as the #3 QB?

Don't get me wrong, Beck sucks but you don't bring in Manning and draft a QB early with the intention that your 'other' backup is going to get much playing time.

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[quote=Paintrain;884908]While I agree with you, why Grossman and not Beck? Grossman is a FA and we've seen his 'best'. Why not just keep Beck in his final year of the contract, give him a full offseason and have him as the #3 QB?

Don't get me wrong, Beck sucks but you don't bring in Manning and draft a QB early with the intention that your 'other' backup is going to get much playing time.[/quote]

I disagree. Manning is an injury risk, and if you acquire a young QB they're most likely going to need some time to develop.

Depth chart should be Manning/Rex/drafted QB.

EDIT: I should have prefaced this post. That should be the depth chart as long as the Skins are in contention, obviously if they're mathematically eliminated it would be wiser to give the young QB some live PT.

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[quote=Paintrain;884908]While I agree with you, why Grossman and not Beck? Grossman is a FA and we've seen his 'best'. Why not just keep Beck in his final year of the contract, give him a full offseason and have him as the #3 QB?

Don't get me wrong, Beck sucks but you don't bring in Manning and draft a QB early with the intention that your 'other' backup is going to get much playing time.[/quote]

I would take Rex instead of Beck simply because Beck can't win. Just for back up if Peyton goes down we need someone to move the ball down the field for a field goal. :doh:

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[QUOTE=dean518;884793]i would prefer PM if we have chance to get him , not racial discrimination , i really do not expect a black QB to lead a nfl team go further , or i can not wait for more 2 or 3 years if draft RG3 , and even do not know if it's a right choice . If PM to our team , i would very happy to collect his Redskins jersey .[/QUOTE]

Ah. Some racism and improper grammar to go along with my Folgers this morning.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;884919]Ah. Some racism and improper grammar to go along with my Folgers this morning.[/quote]

The best part of waking up is a bigot in your cup.

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[quote=Lotus;884925]The best part of waking up is a bigot in your cup.[/quote]




:laughing2

Glad I wasn't drinking anything at the time.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

Years ago I dated this girl named Dawn.
I slept with my head between her legs.
Every day I would wake up at the crack of Dawn.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;884842]If Peyton comes back, it will be because he thinks he can play 2-3 more years. If we signed him, it would also be because we think he can play 2-3 more years.[/quote]

Exactly. The only way I could PM retire after just one more season is if he wins the lombardi but just was physically battered.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;884928]Years ago I dated this girl named Dawn.
I slept with my head between her legs.
Every day I would wake up at the crack of Dawn.[/quote]

:rofl:

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Alvin Walton and Lotus. Brilliant.

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[quote=Paintrain;884908]While I agree with you, why Grossman and not Beck? Grossman is a FA and we've seen his 'best'. Why not just keep Beck in his final year of the contract, give him a full offseason and have him as the #3 QB?

Don't get me wrong, Beck sucks but you don't bring in Manning and draft a QB early with the intention that your 'other' backup is going to get much playing time.[/quote]

Your right but the concept is at some point PM is going to have to be replaced and you don't want to be relying on the 4th round pick you took 2-3 yrs ago.

I'll say this... if RGIII falls to us at #6 we take him no matter if we have PM or not. Otherwise I'd look to trade back maybe mid round in order to pick up another draft pick and take the QB we like out of the 2nd best. Depending on what we do WR wise in FA I might even take a second round or third round QB and call it a day. Why? because as much as you guys want to seperate the QBs as being better then each other I see only small differences. Luck obviously stand out. RGIII is a slight drop off. and from there the rest to me are all about the same ball park with only a slight drop off from RGIII, (Tannehill, Foles, Weeden, T.Wilson, and Cousins). I watched a little film on Osweiler over the weekend and I'm actually impressed with him as well. He's gangly but he seems to scramble/run well, He has a nice long ball, and he can see the whole field because he's like 6ft-8in.

Maybe dump both Grossman and Beck, pick up PM, and take two Rookies in the draft. Pm will take up one roster spot, one of the rookies can take up the other and the last can be on the PS. By the way I'd dump Crompton also. This way we have one Vet, two rookies. Maybe Weeden because of his age makes him more mature and another young rookie QB.

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[quote=Mahons21;884914]I disagree. Manning is an injury risk, and if you acquire a young QB they're most likely going to need some time to develop.

Depth chart should be Manning/Rex/drafted QB.

EDIT: I should have prefaced this post. That should be the depth chart as long as the Skins are in contention, obviously if they're mathematically eliminated it would be wiser to give the young QB some live PT.[/quote]

Manning is no more of an injury risk than any other QB. The neck isn't an issue, it's the nerves in his arm that are preventing him from being considered 100%. The neck has been fine since the fall.

I think if we sign Manning/draft a QB in the 2nd round, we are not doing so with the intent of him being a 3-4 year project that we hope develops. The plan must be to bring him in with the intention that he's ready sooner rather than later so IF Manning is injured, he can play immediately.

To clarify, Beck would be 3rd string, not the primary backup in my previous query. If we're going with a vet backup I'd rather have Henne than either Rex or Beck.

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[quote=Lotus;884802]Dean and CultBrennan, who have similar sad racial views on QB's, appear to be time travelers from the 17th century.[/quote]

hey now...

funny I was thinking of this the other day. I was talking to an african american man I work with, water cooler small talk, we started talking about the draft his 49ers and my Redskins.

"Your Redskins need a QB and badly," he said
"Who do you think we'll get? I've heard we're going to trade up for Griffin."
"Haha, nah, you all aren't getting Griffin he's a black QB, you all don't like black QB's."
"Why do you say that, we are the only team to win a super bowl with a black QB."
"And you all cut him after you all won it with him haha."

all I could do was laugh and think back to this board.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;884946]hey now...

funny I was thinking of this the other day. I was talking to an african american man I work with, water cooler small talk, we started talking about the draft his 49ers and my Redskins.

"Your Redskins need a QB and badly," he said
"Who do you think we'll get? I've heard we're going to trade up for Griffin."
"Haha, nah, you all aren't getting Griffin he's a black QB, you all don't like black QB's."
"Why do you say that, we are the only team to win a super bowl with a black QB."
"And you all cut him after you all won it with him haha."

all I could do was laugh and think back to this board.[/quote]

Not to take anything away from your wonderfully funny post but I don't recall the Skins "cutting" him. I recall him wanting to retire and Gibbs talked him into coming to the Skins. After he won the SB I was pretty sure he retired. In other words went out on a good note.

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Injuries forced him to retire.