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[quote=MTK;1366963]I’m reading that Gen Z and Latinos went for Trump hard. Makes zero fucking sense. Hope minorities are happy when the mass deportations begin, they could also try to denaturalize people. Have fun with that.[/quote]

Ahhhhhhhh, the camps will be fun!

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[quote=MTK;1366963]I’m reading that Gen Z and Latinos went for Trump hard. Makes zero fucking sense. Hope minorities are happy when the mass deportations begin, they could also try to denaturalize people. Have fun with that.[/quote]

Trump has no intention to carry out the mass deportations, imho. Like the wall, it’s just a ruse to drum up support among those easily manipulated by nativism. By some estimates, 40% of agricultural workers in the US are undocumented. Mass deportations would cause a disruption to the industry’s workforce that would bankrupt farms and food processing plants from coast to coast; we’d no longer be talking inflation, we’d be talking empty shelves. Trump understands this and doesn’t intend on doing it. He’s going to feign an attempt at deportation, there will be an immediate challenge in the courts, and instead of fighting them, he’ll blame liberals for getting in the way. In doing so, he’ll not only avoid criticism for failing to deliver on a BS campaign promise, he’ll actually solidify the support of those who fell for it in the first place.

Re: Election Day November 5,2024
 

[quote=MTK;1366963]I’m reading that Gen Z and Latinos went for Trump hard. Makes zero fucking sense. Hope minorities are happy when the mass deportations begin, they could also try to denaturalize people. Have fun with that.[/quote]

Again, the Dems just don't comprehend how "woke" policies and actions (some executed by business and academia but perceived as supported by Dems) are despised by many minorities.

Re: Election Day November 5,2024
 

[quote=Coff;1366967]Trump has no intention to carry out the mass deportations, imho. Like the wall, it’s just a ruse to drum up support among those easily manipulated by nativism. By some estimates, 40% of agricultural workers in the US are undocumented. Mass deportations would cause a disruption to the industry’s workforce that would bankrupt farms and food processing plants from coast to coast; we’d no longer be talking inflation, we’d be talking empty shelves. Trump understands this and doesn’t intend on doing it. He’s going to feign an attempt at deportation, there will be an immediate challenge in the courts, and instead of fighting them, he’ll blame liberals for getting in the way. In doing so, he’ll not only avoid criticism for failing to deliver on a BS campaign promise, he’ll actually solidify the support of those who fell for it in the first place.[/quote]

very true

also lets all remember he doesn't even have the carrot of a 2nd term to kind of keep him in check

its going be an interesting 4 years

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1366955]I agree with this and they need to get back to their blue collar roots among leadership. They also need to do a much better job of making better worker policies even though they do better on it than the republicans.

I for the life of me can't figure out why republicans always get a free pass on the economy when they always f it up royally but dems have to do a better job of explaining how their economic plans are better. Simple things like giving time to unions at the convention, working class muslims etc go a long way.

As for non religious I think that is an advantage. I have never met a leader of organized religion that wasn't sleazy or corrupt. My brother is a guest pastor at his baptist church in Suffolk. He was telling my sister to steal some railroad ties to sell after hurricane Helene. Here I was the agnostic telling him how amoral stealing is.[/quote]

Religious/non religious the splits were big…tho it in as it explains the Hispanic vote, More religious

And I mentioned before trump won 18-29…he didnt. He won men (still huge) in a 28 point swing +13 and loss women -18 down from -32 in that block. But those margins were huge in his victory, he cut that figure in half overall

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[quote=nonniey;1366972]Again, the Dems just don't comprehend how "woke" policies and actions (some executed by business and academia but perceived as supported by Dems) are despised by many minorities.[/quote]

............ what policies do minorities despise?

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[quote=Coff;1366967]Trump has no intention to carry out the mass deportations, imho. Like the wall, it’s just a ruse to drum up support among those easily manipulated by nativism. By some estimates, 40% of agricultural workers in the US are undocumented. Mass deportations would cause a disruption to the industry’s workforce that would bankrupt farms and food processing plants from coast to coast; we’d no longer be talking inflation, we’d be talking empty shelves. Trump understands this and doesn’t intend on doing it. He’s going to feign an attempt at deportation, there will be an immediate challenge in the courts, and instead of fighting them, he’ll blame liberals for getting in the way. In doing so, he’ll not only avoid criticism for failing to deliver on a BS campaign promise, he’ll actually solidify the support of those who fell for it in the first place.[/quote]

I hope you’re right. I fear he’s going to go balls to the wall now that he has a mandate and will be out for revenge.

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The country is more towards the right , even minorities and Dems don’t understand that. This election could be a permanent realignment and the Dems might not win at the presidential level for quite a while.

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[quote=Chico23231;1366975]Religious/non religious the splits were big…tho it in as it explains the Hispanic vote, More religious

And I mentioned before trump won 18-29…he didnt. He won men (still huge) in a 28 point swing +13 and loss women -18 down from -32 in that block. But those margins were huge in his victory, he cut that figure in half overall[/quote]

Gotcha yeah I agree I think that religion did play a factor especially when dems kept ignoring what latinos said was most important issue, the economy. Also agree about the young men that is huge. It reminds me of when Obama was first president to really utilize twitter to engage a younger audience, Trump did the same with podcasts. Harris did some but not enough and not the right ones. She definitely needed to engage with the podcasts geared to young men more.

BTW when did young men become such whiny pussies afraid of everything? It is so fucking embarrassing

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[quote=Coff;1366967]Trump has no intention to carry out the mass deportations, imho. Like the wall, it’s just a ruse to drum up support among those easily manipulated by nativism. By some estimates, 40% of agricultural workers in the US are undocumented. Mass deportations would cause a disruption to the industry’s workforce that would bankrupt farms and food processing plants from coast to coast; we’d no longer be talking inflation, we’d be talking empty shelves. Trump understands this and doesn’t intend on doing it. He’s going to feign an attempt at deportation, there will be an immediate challenge in the courts, and instead of fighting them, he’ll blame liberals for getting in the way. In doing so, he’ll not only avoid criticism for failing to deliver on a BS campaign promise, he’ll actually solidify the support of those who fell for it in the first place.[/quote]

I think both can be true. Trump is smart enough to not upset the agricultural apple cart, but even if he does it is easy enough to provide TPS and target immigrants involved in other aspects of the economy. I will see deportation will be a huge price tag and definitely not worth it economically. If people are upset now about providing housing to immigrants so they are not homeless and on the streets wait till they see the costs for seats on jets for millions of undocumented immigrants so we can send them to tropical beaches on tax payer dimes just so they arrive right back in the country a few months later.

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[quote=mredskins;1366973]very true

also lets all remember he doesn't even have the carrot of a 2nd term to kind of keep him in check

its going be an interesting 4 years[/quote]

4 years?…the first 100 days is gonna be a sprint. Tax cuts will be made permanent, remain in Mexico back on and the 90 other immigration/border Biden orders will be ended and with others added. He absolutely will be deporting folks, it’s not going to be mass deportations but he will be keeping promises. Trumps already told Israel to finish up, so he will get that war ended and will get the appropriate credit. He’s gonna pull out of climate thing. That’ll be the first 100.

Big things down the line will be Saudi and Israel signing a deal to continue the Abram accord. Big trade deals, not on-going tariffs. He’s gonna get some culture things done with not allowing 10 years old to cut off their balls and biological men playing girls sports…you know the complete retard shit.

He’s gonna get 2-3 justices on the Supreme Court.

Host a World Cup and an Olympics. Big time events that he will eat up.

Ukraine, he not letting Putin walk into Kiev. He’s not gonna lose…he will continue to fund but he will push for an end to the war. The inconvenient fact is Ukraine is continuing to lose territory and they are fighting untrained/limited trained volunteers from Russia.

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Like it or not President Trump is an iconic figure now….right now in the early 21st century, the most historic, most recognized, most talked about, most wildly covered around the world….for better or for worst. He is an icon.

We will see how it ends, hopefully good. But I think what’s been a lil surprising is the decompression and it’s been almost like a relaxed reaction to the election results of a Trump win.

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Relaxed? Dude people are depressed AF and truly scared of what comes next. I just hope I have a job by the end of these next 4 years.

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[quote=MTK;1366963]I’m reading that Gen Z and Latinos went for Trump hard. Makes zero fucking sense. Hope minorities are happy when the mass deportations begin, they could also try to denaturalize people. Have fun with that.[/quote]

It was a 20 point swing by latino men from Biden in 2020 to Trump this election.

TWENTY fucking points.

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[quote=MTK;1366984]Relaxed? Dude people are depressed AF and truly scared of what comes next. I just hope I have a job by the end of these next 4 years.[/quote]

Obviously no one wants a recession or people losing their jobs…but we just got the worst jobs report in years and no one said a thing here or in the media.

I don’t want to hear any complaints about the economy from Democrats. Record inflation, food prices, people on fixed income making tough choices, record high rents and young people can’t afford to buy a home. Mortgage rates high on top of already high home prices.

And then democrats support illegal immigration here to compete with places to live driving up shortages and rent cost. Which then drives up costs on city/town budgets. Illegals are a net negative

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I’m sure Trump will fix it all, he definitely has a plan, or a concept of one at least 🙄

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Where has Trump been anyway?? The radio silence is straight up strange.

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What happens if the election winner passes before taking office; does the veep
Candidate take office?

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Chico I would suggest you switch news sources then. This is what we get once we have eroded civil liberties and made our country about corporate rights and not people. Oil companies price gouged us to record profits during high inflation. Driving up costs across the board. FTC did what they can but we are so limited to how we can handle corporations due to deregulation it is pathetic. Mortgage rates aren't high. They were reduced to record lows and then once inflation started going down they went up. They will continue to go up for the foreseeable future.

I like how you are blaming immigrants on rental prices and not rental companies and landlords price gouging people with no voice. Perhaps we should stop criminalizing people trying to live?

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I moved to a new subdivision last year. The final houses are being built and I saw a bunch of new houses up for rent. That isn’t because of illegals.

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[quote=MTK;1366997]Where has Trump been anyway?? The radio silence is straight up strange.[/quote]

He did give a phone interview to NBC yesterday, and apparently has blasted Newsom on social media.

Other than that, I'm sure he's been busy with phone calls.

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[quote=Chico23231;1366983]We will see how it ends, hopefully good. But I think what’s been a lil surprising is the decompression and it’s been almost like a relaxed reaction to the election results of a Trump win.[/quote]

Agree. It'll be interesting to see how he tackles immigration. I think he'll probably approach it similar to Obama in focusing on removing criminals.

Inflation to me was mainly a byproduct of trillions of dollars of covid spending. I think we would've had fairly significant inflation anyway if Trump had been reelected in 2020, but Biden added to it and threw gas on a fire.

WRT to housing prices.....in certain locations like Utah, Idaho, and Texas, they were already starting to go bat insane by late 2020 due to all the stimmy and pretty much zero interest rates.

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[quote=hail2commanders;1367002]He did give a phone interview to NBC yesterday, and apparently has blasted Newsom on social media.

Other than that, I'm sure he's been busy with phone calls.[/quote]

Plaining to have camps and throw out all the immigrants in the US is hard work.

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[quote=Giantone;1367004]Plaining to have camps and throw out all the immigrants in the US is hard work.[/quote]

I don't blame people for fearing the worst about Trump, particularly after the J6 nonsense, but I'm hopeful that the immigration thing is measured, and things that he did in his first term like "Remain in Mexico" can be negotiated again.

A big part of winning elections is messaging and it seems like Biden had none. You can't have issues like inflation and immigration and then have the bare minimum in news conferences, probably because, as we now know, his team's lack of confidence in his mental state.

Not to say that I don't have questions about Trump's mental state either. Hoped that DeSantis or Haley would've been the pick, but that's under the bridge now.

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[quote=Giantone;1366976]............ what policies do minorities despise?[/quote]

Don't forget the actions (perceived as being supported by Dems). There are so many but here is one "LatinX."

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[quote=hail2commanders;1367003]Agree. It'll be interesting to see how he tackles immigration. [B]I think he'll probably approach it similar to Obama in focusing on removing criminals.[/B]

Inflation to me was mainly a byproduct of trillions of dollars of covid spending. I think we would've had fairly significant inflation anyway if Trump had been reelected in 2020, but Biden added to it and threw gas on a fire.

WRT to housing prices.....in certain locations like Utah, Idaho, and Texas, they were already starting to go bat insane by late 2020 due to all the stimmy and pretty much zero interest rates.[/quote]

First off welcome to the boards.

In regards to bolded I think that would be common sense approach and in addition as you said later a remain in Mexico. Harris said they were going to increase deportation if caught illegally entering this should be a no brainer as well.

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trump supporters are at it......................


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/pro-trump-kkk-racist-texts-174952912.html[/url]

“The unfortunate reality of electing a President who, historically, has embraced, and at times encouraged hate, is unfolding before our eyes,” said NAACP President Derrick Johnson.

Civil rights leaders are raising alarm over pro-Donald Trump racist text messages targeting Black Americans less than 48 hours after the 2024 presidential election.

[B]"“Greetings, You have been selected to pick cotton at the nearest plantation. Be ready at 12PM SHARP with your belongings,” reads one text message received by a resident in Washington, D.C., reports local TV station News4. “Our Executive Slaves will come get you in a Black Van, be prepared to be searched down once you’ve enter [sic] the plantation. You are in Plantation Group S.”[/B]

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[quote=nonniey;1367008]Don't forget the actions (perceived as being supported by Dems). There are so many but here is one "LatinX."[/quote]

Is that an issue there? Here it is more a generational thing. Students will use latinx at a higher rate but coworkers that are older like gen x and millennials don't understand it.

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Couple of friends of mine thought the racist texts might be from foreign entities trying to sow discord post-election.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1367000]Chico I would suggest you switch news sources then. This is what we get once we have eroded civil liberties and made our country about corporate rights and not people. Oil companies price gouged us to record profits during high inflation. Driving up costs across the board. FTC did what they can but we are so limited to how we can handle corporations due to deregulation it is pathetic. Mortgage rates aren't high. They were reduced to record lows and then once inflation started going down they went up. They will continue to go up for the foreseeable future.

I like how you are blaming immigrants on rental prices and not rental companies and landlords price gouging people with no voice. Perhaps we should stop criminalizing people trying to live?[/quote]

Look to Canada right now. Turdow has completely fucked up their economy

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[quote=hail2commanders;1367013]Couple of friends of mine thought the racist texts might be from foreign entities trying to sow discord post-election.[/quote]

The bomb threats were too

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[quote=Giantone;1367010]trump supporters are at it......................


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/pro-trump-kkk-racist-texts-174952912.html[/url]

“The unfortunate reality of electing a President who, historically, has embraced, and at times encouraged hate, is unfolding before our eyes,” said NAACP President Derrick Johnson.

Civil rights leaders are raising alarm over pro-Donald Trump racist text messages targeting Black Americans less than 48 hours after the 2024 presidential election.

[B]"“Greetings, You have been selected to pick cotton at the nearest plantation. Be ready at 12PM SHARP with your belongings,” reads one text message received by a resident in Washington, D.C., reports local TV station News4. “Our Executive Slaves will come get you in a Black Van, be prepared to be searched down once you’ve enter [sic] the plantation. You are in Plantation Group S.”[/B][/quote]

Notice the text messages don’t say anything about trump or anything else. This is typical Reddit like conspiracy theories posted by g1.

Democrats having a hard time realizing trump got elected on a middle class multi-racial coalition so they are gonna conduct hate crime hoaxes, false narratives, outright lies, such as above to break up the unity found in the trump win.

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[quote=Chico23231;1367020]Notice the text messages don’t say anything about trump or anything else. This is typical Reddit like conspiracy theories posted by g1.

Democrats having a hard time realizing trump got elected on a middle class multi-racial coalition so they are gonna conduct hate crime hoaxes, false narratives, outright lies, such as above to break up the unity found in the trump win.[/quote]

Funny how you know what is on Reddit , I have never been on it. Hate crime "hoaxes" from trumpettes like yourself are sadly the new norm for the MAGA cult.

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[quote=Giantone;1367023]Funny how you know what is on Reddit , I have never been on it. Hate crime "hoaxes" from trumpettes like yourself are sadly the new norm for the MAGA cult.[/quote]

The text messages came from Poland

[url]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fake-bomb-threats-linked-russia-briefly-close-georgia-polling-locations-2024-11-05/[/url]

The bomb threats were from Russia, just like the Haitian bomb threats in Ohio were all from out of country

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[quote=Chico23231;1367035]The text messages came from Poland

[url]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fake-bomb-threats-linked-russia-briefly-close-georgia-polling-locations-2024-11-05/[/url]

The bomb threats were from Russia, just like the Haitian bomb threats in Ohio were all from out of country[/quote]
Russia,Russia,Russia!!! You're dumb as schitt!
Sorry chico it's the trump scum that did it, like you.


Chico what happen to all the rigged election talk?

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/happened-election-fraud-trump-gop-100719171.html[/url]

That only happens if trump lose's.

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[quote=Chico23231;1367035]The text messages came from Poland

[url]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fake-bomb-threats-linked-russia-briefly-close-georgia-polling-locations-2024-11-05/[/url]

The bomb threats were from Russia, just like the Haitian bomb threats in Ohio were all from out of country[/quote]


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/entertainment/elon-musk-mother-sparks-backlash-170129567.html[/url]

[COLOR="Red"]Is she Russian?[/COLOR]

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So there is one primary person, Sinema, (ok 2) from the Democrats that really saved their bacon (She saved the filibuster - you'd think the Dems would learn from Ried's mistake), but the Dems got rid of her for doing that. Fess up posters that attacked her, acknowledge that you were wrong about her. Frankly she was probably the best Senator maybe even overall legislator in Washington because she took practicalities into consideration for proposed legislation (her and her spreadsheets).

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-democrats-have-one-way-to-stop-trump-in-gop-senate-you-can-thank-sinema-for-that/ar-AA1tMts2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=3fc0060cb85d4122be1f774fa68ea5f0&ei=18[/url]

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I get the appeal of Trump's America First agenda. I just wonder how many Republicans would be against his agenda if Trump had run as a Democrat. Conversely, how many Dems are against his agenda strictly because he's a Republican?

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[quote=nonniey;1367044]So there is one primary person, Sinema, (ok 2) from the Democrats that really saved their bacon (She saved the filibuster - you'd think the Dems would learn from Ried's mistake), but the Dems got rid of her for doing that. Fess up posters that attacked her, acknowledge that you were wrong about her. Frankly she was probably the best Senator maybe even overall legislator in Washington because she took practicalities into consideration for proposed legislation (her and her spreadsheets).

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-democrats-have-one-way-to-stop-trump-in-gop-senate-you-can-thank-sinema-for-that/ar-AA1tMts2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=3fc0060cb85d4122be1f774fa68ea5f0&ei=18[/url][/quote]

I bet you the gop get rids of the fill buster if the Dems fillibustering stops or slow downs Trump agenda.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1367054]I bet you the gop get rids of the fill buster if the Dems fillibustering stops or slow downs Trump agenda.[/quote]

The one thing the GOP has never been smart at is realizing that some of the dumb stuff they do always comes back to bite them in the ass.