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Having a coaching staff that is willing to run the ball, and a QB who doesn't hold onto it forever will help. I'm just concerned about potential injuries, because even if the current projected starting OL is better than we all think, we're an injury or two away from serious issues.

I suppose a lot of teams could say that though...

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1362487]Having a coaching staff that is willing to run the ball, and a QB who doesn't hold onto it forever will help. I'm just concerned about potential injuries, because even if the current projected starting OL is better than we all think, we're an injury or two away from serious issues.

I suppose a lot of teams could say that though...[/quote]

It all goes back to the trust issue. Do you trust AP or not? We might as well trust him since we have no recourse in the matter.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1362488]It all goes back to the trust issue. Do you trust AP or not? We might as well trust him since we have no recourse in the matter.[/QUOTE]AP - high trust
DQ as HC - high trust
JW as DC - above avg trust
Def Staff - high trust
KK as OC -below avg trust
OL coach - 0% trust

the offensive coaching staff as a whole has alot to prove.


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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1362489]AP - high trust
DQ as HC - high trust
JW as DC - above avg trust
Def Staff - high trust
KK as OC -below avg trust
OL coach - 0% trust

the offensive coaching staff as a whole has alot to prove.


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Larry Izzo as ST Coordinator - high trust (IMO)

Yes, offensive coaching staff doesn't begin to approach the quality of the defensive staff.

Anthony Lynn as RB Coach - above average trust (IMO)

I'm hoping AL will be a mentor to the other offensive position coaches and act as an advisor to KK.

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I am really excited to see what Kingsbury brings. I mean if the guy runs the ball with a lead at least once we are already way ahead of last year.

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[quote=punch it in;1362504]I am really excited to see what Kingsbury brings.[/quote]I am also. He is really good with qbs and the passing game. Coaching up Mahomes is no joke at all and Caleb Williams. He strikes me as a guy that will be fun and have creative plays/formations that will still be effective. Obviously a passing oc but hope he stays with the run also.

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I'm cautiously optimistic, but I think the defense will have to carry this team to victories this year.

While Kingsbury has had some success in CFB with some great QBs, his prowess in the NFL leaves a lot to be desired. In his 2019 season as the HC of the Cardinals, they finished 4th in the NFC West with a record of 5–10–1. In 2020, the Cardinals finished 3rd with a 8–8 record. They did finish 2nd in the NFC West in 2021, but lost to the Rams 34–11 in the first round of the playoffs. KK signed a six-year contract extension in 2022, but was fired after they went 4-13. As a HC he has a 28–37–1 record with one playoff appearance.

Granted, he's not the HC here. But he was just an offensive analyst at USC last year. It's not like he was the OC.

We'll see. Really, just run the damn ball and take the occasional shot downfield and it will be a better offense this year. We'll need a better than average D though to sniff the playoffs. I hope I'm surprised come Sep/Oct...

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[QUOTE=WCommandersfan99;1362515]I am also. He is really good with qbs and the passing game. Coaching up Mahomes is no joke at all and Caleb Williams. He strikes me as a guy that will be fun and have creative plays/formations that will still be effective. Obviously a passing oc but hope he stays with the run also.[/QUOTE]he gives me Spurrier vibes without the college record.

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KK as the QB coach - cool. As the OC - I'm in wait and see mode (OL coach too). He doesn't have an amazing track record of offensive wizardry or anything.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1362517]he gives me Spurrier vibes without the college record.

Sent from my SM-G781U using Tapatalk[/quote]Ugh hope not. I imagine he would care about success a lot more than Spurrier or Quinn would not have hired him. Spurrier was a disaster with the Fun n Gun and a classic bad hire by DS. Think KK and Daniels could be be bigtime with Daniels' talent.

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Kingsbury = Spurrier?

Couldn't disagree more there, he knows how to run an offense and he definitely knows QBs

[url]https://markbullock.substack.com/p/what-to-expect-from-kliff-kingsbury[/url]

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Relating Kingsbury to Spurrier is flat out disrespectful lol.

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[quote=MTK;1362522]Kingsbury = Spurrier?

Couldn't disagree more there, he knows how to run an offense and he definitely knows QBs

[url]https://markbullock.substack.com/p/what-to-expect-from-kliff-kingsbury[/url][/quote]

Most important difference is he is not the HQ or GM.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1362525]Most important difference is he is not the HQ or GM.[/QUOTE]


But is he a big visor guy?

Seriously, it’s an odd comparison. Spurrier was a long-tenured college coach lured to the NFL by our shitty owner who thought he could just do the same thing and be successful. Shane Matthews anyone? I expect KK to be smarter and more adaptable, particularly having had NFL experience before and, like Quinn, having the learning experience of being a head coach with mixed success. Let’s give the guy a shot before we paint him to be an overhyped and out of his depth NFL misfit, as Spurrier was.


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I could not stand Steve Spurrier when he was at Florida. Cocky as all as he ran the score up on Vanderbilt. And I was totally against the hire. But for some reason as he was losing games here I kind of got to liking him, maybe it's his personality that made that happen. But we can't forget one of the lowest points in the Snyder era, the night we saw the Daffy Duck lips as we were getting rolled by the Eagles.

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On the topic of Kingsbury

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40251911/what-new-oc-kliff-kingsbury-brings-commanders"]What new OC Kliff Kingsbury brings to Commanders[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Darrell Green Fan;1362573]I could not stand Steve Spurrier when he was at Florida. Cocky as all as he ran the score up on Vanderbilt. And I was totally against the hire. But for some reason as he was losing games here I kind of got to liking him, maybe it's his personality that made that happen. But we can't forget one of the lowest points in the Snyder era, the night we saw the Daffy Duck lips as we were getting rolled by the Eagles.[/QUOTE]


I’d like to forget that. Saw a game v the 49ers in SF during the Spurrier era. Wasn’t pretty.


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REMEMBER OSAKA!!!!!

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great lesson in why not to invest in how things look in the preseason.

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Back to the O line. Why not kick the tires on Bahktiari? Health a real issue but when health….


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[quote=calia;1362650]Back to the O line. Why not kick the tires on Bahktiari? Health a real issue but when health….


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Pass. Keim suggested DJ Humphries which makes more sense, but he will not be ready until mid season. Let’s see how camp goes

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[quote=calia;1362650]Back to the O line. Why not kick the tires on Bahktiari? Health a real issue but when health….


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Thinking about this more, if Bahktiari rehab without set back and would be cleared without PUP list…then I would be open. We have the cap room and the expectation for a contract understandable would be incentive laden…then I would be open.

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Bring in any available decent tackles and have an open competition for the #1 spot, that's the best way to go.

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I'd anticipate they'll bring a few vets/FA's in for the following pre-camp at least, IF they're still not convinced by then that the roster can't be improved by said additions. I'd like to see good vet options for LT, CB and WR given try outs at least. We can't rely on anyone currently in those spots, excepting Terry, to be starter level calibre right now.