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[quote=calia;1348197]I just got an alert that Rivera and JDR were fired. If that’s true, it’s wild.


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Don’t see anything from Keim or NFL network, must be wishful thinking

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Studs duds the list is ugly
[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/10/6/23905759/washington-commanders-vs-chicago-bears-studs-and-duds[/url]

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1348175]and Marlins and Crystal Palace. except for the latter he has had success. I can't believe 5 games into new ownership and we are questioning Harris. What is he supposed to do? Not evaluate the product before seeing it? We had 20 years of that already.[/quote]

Apparently laughing is a sign of being evil!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1348208]Apparently laughing is a sign of being evil![/quote]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjEf7GF4za4[/url]

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There is no team in the league that I would say we are better than … we are at the bottom ..

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Watching that today (wasn't staying up all night here to watch it) I've changed my mind about firing RR (and JDR) during the season. Do it now. We could not look any worse with part time high school coaches in charge.

I'd hand over the reins to EB and tell him it's his HC interview. Get his guys in, especially a new young inventive DC.

This is 99% coaching. The team is slow out of the gate; coaching. Vanilla defensive schemes and looks; coaching. Poor adjustment; coaching. Poor discipline; coaching. Poor execution; coaching. Poor drafting; coaching (let's face it, RR is the de facto GM).

At least EB seemed to show some meaningful adjustment at HT the last 2 weeks. But he's got questions to answer too. Barely running the ball. Not giving SH a mobile pocket out of the gate. Not scheming up his best WRs open. Empty backfields.

Chicago came out attacking and showing creative play calling on D. We were the opposite. Let's hope ownership saw all that and realise today they may as well cut their losses before the season is over.

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2023 outside free agents signed by the Commanders:

Drew Himmelman (OT): One-year deal: $750,000 - WHO?
Marcus Kemp (WR/ST): One-year deal: $1.01 million - WHO?
Andrew Wylie (OT): Three-year deal: $24 million - FLAMING, WHITE-HOT GARBAGE
Nick Gates (OL): Three-year deal, $8 million guaranteed - FLAMING, WHITE-HOT GARBAGE
Cameron Dantzler Sr. (CB): Claimed off waivers - WHO?
Cody Barton (LB): One-year deal, $3.5 million guaranteed - FLAMING, WHITE-HOT GARBAGE
Brissett (QB): One-year deal, $7.5 million guaranteed - GOOD BACK-UP QB, I STILL LIKE THIS SIGNING

2023 draft-picks by the Commanders:

1. Forbes - BENCHED 5 GAMES INTO THE SEASON
2. Martin - A FUCKING GHOST. IS HE AN ACTUAL PERSON?
3. Stromberg - CAN'T GET ON THE FIELD OVER THE DOGSHIT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUT THERE
4. Daniels - BEING STASHED ON AN INJURED LIST BECAUSE HE FUCKING SUCKS
5. Henry - I HAVEN'T HEARD HIS NAME ONCE THIS SEASON
6. Rodriguez - HASN'T GOT HARDLY ANY OPPORTUNITIES, BUT WON'T JUDGE HIM YET
7. Jones Jr. - WE HAVE HEARD GOOD THINGS, BUT HASN'T PLAYED MUCH DUE TO ROSTER, SEEMS LIKE A GOOD 7TH ROUND PICK

This what our loser GM got us this year. This year is a complete throw away due to Rivera's utter incompetence at every job he holds here. GET RID OF THIS LOSER!

There are probably some more outside FA's, but they weren't on the list I was looking at.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1348195]It seems after every loss this season, the opposition mentions something they've picked up on....

[url]https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1710188355000877247?t=jy8quCj3F0r_nu4eATyVrw&s=19[/url][/quote]

So fucking embarrassing. Teams are literally laughing at JDR and Rivera.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1348214]Watching that today (wasn't staying up all night here to watch it) I've changed my mind about firing RR (and JDR) during the season. Do it now. We could not look any worse with part time high school coaches in charge.

I'd hand over the reins to EB and tell him it's his HC interview. Get his guys in, especially a new young inventive DC.

This is 99% coaching. The team is slow out of the gate; coaching. Vanilla defensive schemes and looks; coaching. Poor adjustment; coaching. Poor discipline; coaching. Poor execution; coaching. Poor drafting; coaching (let's face it, RR is the de facto GM).

At least EB seemed to show some meaningful adjustment at HT the last 2 weeks. But he's got questions to answer too. Barely running the ball. Not giving SH a mobile pocket out of the gate. Not scheming up his best WRs open. Empty backfields.

Chicago came out attacking and showing creative play calling on D. We were the opposite. Let's hope ownership saw all that and realise today they may as well cut their losses before the season is over.[/quote]

You think it's a dumpster fire now...let's make EB the Head Coach on top of being in charge of the offense that he can't seem to get right. He'd be in way over his head.

Unfortunately, there's no good answers at this point. Fire Jack is a start though, and makes the most sense to me.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1348217]You think it's a dumpster fire now...let's make EB the Head Coach on top of being in charge of the offense that he can't seem to get right. He'd be in way over his head.

Unfortunately, there's no good answers at this point. Fire Jack is a start though, and makes the most sense to me.[/quote]

You're supposed to be the level-headed one here, things must be bad. ;)

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[quote=davy;1348219]You're supposed to be the level-headed one here, things must be bad. ;)[/quote]

When you lose to the worst team in the NFL, at home, by 3 scores...that makes you now the worst team in the NFL.

Yep, things are bad.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1348217]You think it's a dumpster fire now...let's make EB the Head Coach on top of being in charge of the offense that he can't seem to get right. He'd be in way over his head.

Unfortunately, there's no good answers at this point. Fire Jack is a start though, and makes the most sense to me.[/quote]

Maybe, but do you not think RR has some influence over the game planning? Possible that EB is ignoring RRs instructions at HT? Can he be worse than RR? Maybe he can get the team ready for games better? What have we got to lose?

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I have no answer on what to do other than lose out get the top pick and clean house .. start over ..

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1348222]Maybe, but do you not think RR has some influence over the game planning? Possible that EB is ignoring RRs instructions at HT? Can he be worse than RR? Maybe he can get the team ready for games better? What have we got to lose?[/quote]

For the offensive game plan? No, I don't think RR has anything to do with that.

I am of the opinion that yes, it can get worse. We could lose our young promising QB to injury. Sooner or later one of these 5+ sacks per game is going to sideline him for a while.

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Rivera on the sideline:

[IMG]https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81sw90chG2L.__AC_SX300_SY300_QL70_FMwebp_.jpg[/IMG]

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38580069/magic-johnson-critiques-commanders-loss-no-intensity[/url]

Magic is pissed off

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This is year 4 and no improvements


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do you all still think Forbes is going to be the next Darrell Green?

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Voice of reason

[url]https://youtu.be/aAqPIru5e2Q?si=cUwwJexHTNpT7VvW[/url]

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1348234]do you all still think Forbes is going to be the next Darrell Green?[/quote]

LOL, after 4.5 games?

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1348236]LOL, after 4.5 games?[/quote]

looked completely lost out there last night!! at a minimum needs to be benched for a while and brought along very slow, because he is nowhere near ready to compete at this level right now.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1348205]Don’t see anything from Keim or NFL network, must be wishful thinking[/QUOTE]


I suspect it was. Honestly, I wish it weren’t. Done with these coaches. I had been pretty supportive until last night. Indefensible.


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I miss Gregg Williams and him pressuring the QB. Making the opposing QB uncomfortable and throwing the ball when he doesn't want to. I hope the next DC is from that mold.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1348230]Rivera on the sideline:

[IMG]https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81sw90chG2L.__AC_SX300_SY300_QL70_FMwebp_.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Rivera is typically stoned face (no pun intended), but the picture does somewhat mimics him.

By the way, here's what Wade Phillips stated re: Wylie last night (who didn't give up a sack last night)....
[url]https://twitter.com/sonofbum/status/1710099918247874874?t=VveZtHoxV_58LazBr1nEYg&s=19[/url]

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1348234]do you all still think Forbes is going to be the next Darrell Green?[/quote]

From the looks of it, Forbes can't play on this level. He ain't got it. He just isn't physical enough. Isn't strong enough. Danny Johnson looked like he wanted to compete. Put him in there.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1348237]looked completely lost out there last night!! at a minimum needs to be benched for a while and brought along very slow, because he is nowhere near ready to compete at this level right now.[/quote]

When a defense gives up 40 points, they are all lost, especially their leader.

Like I said, Forbes is an easy target, but he is by no means the problem. He needs to be coached up, he needs to be communicated to, and he needs to play.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1348242]When a defense gives up 40 points, they are all lost, especially their leader.

Like I said, Forbes is an easy target, but he is by no means the problem. He needs to be coached up, he needs to be communicated to, and he needs to play.[/quote]

Agree re: Forbes. I think he's being scapegoated by many Washington fans. I like him and still believe he'll be fine. The defense has numerous issues, of course, Forbes being one, but there are others amongst the d-line, LBs, and secondary who deserves some blame. I think we'll all agree that our biggest detriment are JDR and Rivera, defensively.

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I can’t believe JDR still has a job

36 PPG given up the last 4 weeks lmao

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1348246]I can’t believe JDR still has a job

36 PPG given up the last 4 weeks lmao

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Look at these numbers other than sacks....
[url]https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/1710292474315276508?t=qbEuxRgRE9VSa6Aw_pk0dA&s=19[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1348215]2023 outside free agents signed by the Commanders:

Drew Himmelman (OT): One-year deal: $750,000 - WHO?
Marcus Kemp (WR/ST): One-year deal: $1.01 million - WHO?
Andrew Wylie (OT): Three-year deal: $24 million - FLAMING, WHITE-HOT GARBAGE
Nick Gates (OL): Three-year deal, $8 million guaranteed - FLAMING, WHITE-HOT GARBAGE
Cameron Dantzler Sr. (CB): Claimed off waivers - WHO?
Cody Barton (LB): One-year deal, $3.5 million guaranteed - FLAMING, WHITE-HOT GARBAGE
Brissett (QB): One-year deal, $7.5 million guaranteed - GOOD BACK-UP QB, I STILL LIKE THIS SIGNING

2023 draft-picks by the Commanders:

1. Forbes - BENCHED 5 GAMES INTO THE SEASON
2. Martin - A FUCKING GHOST. IS HE AN ACTUAL PERSON?
3. Stromberg - CAN'T GET ON THE FIELD OVER THE DOGSHIT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUT THERE
4. Daniels - BEING STASHED ON AN INJURED LIST BECAUSE HE FUCKING SUCKS
5. Henry - I HAVEN'T HEARD HIS NAME ONCE THIS SEASON
6. Rodriguez - HASN'T GOT HARDLY ANY OPPORTUNITIES, BUT WON'T JUDGE HIM YET
7. Jones Jr. - WE HAVE HEARD GOOD THINGS, BUT HASN'T PLAYED MUCH DUE TO ROSTER, SEEMS LIKE A GOOD 7TH ROUND PICK

This what our loser GM got us this year. This year is a complete throw away due to Rivera's utter incompetence at every job he holds here. GET RID OF THIS LOSER!

There are probably some more outside FA's, but they weren't on the list I was looking at.[/quote]


Which is why I said Harris has to wipe the slate clean, especially the talent evaluators.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1348247]Look at these numbers other than sacks....
[url]https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/1710292474315276508?t=qbEuxRgRE9VSa6Aw_pk0dA&s=19[/url][/quote]

We have 6 first rounders currently starting on D. The output is unacceptable.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1348156]John Keim
@john_keim
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10h
In the last 6 quarters AT HOME, Washington has been outscored 64-6.[/quote]


God dayum......

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/_Z2kozelfskAAAAd/what-the-fuck-tim-robinson.gif[/IMG]

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Amazing news!!! Sarcasm font.

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38584753/ron-rivera-not-making-staff-changes-amid-commanders-slide"]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38584753/ron-rivera-not-making-staff-changes-amid-commanders-slide[/URL]

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1348250]We have 6 first rounders currently starting on D. The output is unacceptable.[/quote]

Either poor talent evaluation or poor coaching.... I believe I know the game well enough to see it's the latter.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1348175]and Marlins and Crystal Palace. except for the latter he has had success. I can't believe 5 games into new ownership and we are questioning Harris. What is he supposed to do? Not evaluate the product before seeing it? We had 20 years of that already.[/quote]


Don't know what people expect out of Harris. Dude like just took over the team right before the season began. This is evaluation mode right now. I'm pretty sure barring some drastic turnaround, ending with us going deep in the playoffs, Ron will be let go in the off-season. I don't expect any moves to be made at this point and time, and don't want them to. The off-season is a different story. The first day of the new season, Ron and the entire crew (including GM/talent evaluators/etc) need to be gone.

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This is the typical and unchanging pattern of a Ron Rivera coached team.....yes there are a lot of games left.....but this is the 4th straight season where the team is under .500 before half the season is over......they are looking like a 7 or 8 win team yet again.....how many times are we going to watch this movie ? History says that Ron will not finish above .500......sure they can finish 10-7 or even 11-6 but how likely is that ?

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[quote=Are Jay;1348253]Amazing news!!! Sarcasm font.

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38584753/ron-rivera-not-making-staff-changes-amid-commanders-slide"]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38584753/ron-rivera-not-making-staff-changes-amid-commanders-slide[/URL][/quote]

Not surprising. I would definitely like to see JDR fired, but I understand it's not going to happen.

However, if Atlanta scores 30 on us after 10 days of "preparation" and thinking about this loss, I want them all gone.

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Decision may be taken out of Rivera's hands if not now, certainly if we haemorrhage points again. Harris could easily get fed up of the bad press and the earache from his partners and decide to step in. Question is whether RR would say he'd go too if they forced him to fire JDR, and if so, whether Harris would back down. I suspect he wouldn't and they'd both be on the street.

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Rivera is not going to make any changes, he’s stubborn.

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Jon Allen played so bad. He got pushed around all game long.