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[quote=skinsfan69;1343436]I was just going to say, he's just hanging on to his job until these guys can get their feet wet. [B]This time next year I don't think Wright or Ron will be here. [/B]

Why would they be talking about a name change right now anyways? Makes zero sense. I have said all along, at some point, when the time is right, Commanders is gone.[/quote]

Agree, for optics they will keep Wright around til after the new season and for Ron it will take a deep playoff run for a new contract.

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Interior OL is becoming intriguing, aside from Mason Brooks I heard Logan Paulsen today say that the OT they signed from the XFL was moved inside to guard after failing at OT and was looking good running with the 2nd string OL. Difficult to see how they can keep everyone with maybe only 10 OL places on the roster, wonder how they keep Charles if he doesn't win the starting job or Daniels as a project if they end up losing some promising guys elsewhere

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1343444]Interior OL is becoming intriguing, aside from Mason Brooks I heard Logan Paulsen today say that the OT they signed from the XFL was moved inside to guard after failing at OT and was looking good running with the 2nd string OL. Difficult to see how they can keep everyone with maybe only 10 OL places on the roster, wonder how they keep Charles if he doesn't win the starting job or Daniels as a project if they end up losing some promising guys elsewhere[/quote]

Keim and Bram said on the podcast the fourth round tackle Daniels pick has been awful.

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[quote=Chico23231;1343443]Agree, [B]for optics they will keep Wright around til after the new season[/B] and for Ron it will take a deep playoff run for a new contract.[/quote]

We sure about that ? Firing a HC mid-season, unless the said season is a disaster, rarely is a productive thing to do, but wouldn't getting your business people in place ASAP be a smart move ? (ASAP not being right now, but during this season to give them a headstart)

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1343447]We sure about that ? Firing a HC mid-season, unless the said season is a disaster, rarely is a productive thing to do, but wouldn't getting your business people in place ASAP be a smart move ? (ASAP not being right now, but during this season to give them a headstart)[/quote]

Why not right now? The sooner there are no more Snyder minions in management positions the better it will be for all concerned. A little Febreeze might help, as well.

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[quote=Chico23231;1343445]Keim and Bram said on the podcast the fourth round tackle Daniels pick has been awful.[/quote]

Yes I saw that, it was Bram that said he couldn't see a place for Daniels on the roster and that he might get cut, which would be a shocking waste of a 4th round pick. The hubris of NFL front offices wont let them cut him so early, so we are likely to lose a more promising player, albeit from the back end of the roster. The new owners wont be impressed.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1343448]Why not right now? The sooner there are no more Snyder minions in management positions the better it will be for all concerned. A little Febreeze might help, as well.[/quote]

Haha good point.
I guess you could say new ownership wouldn't want to be, nor be looking like they are, rushing such a hire. Plus finding and picking the right person has to actually take a bit of time.
Maybe they also don't want to have the whole building feeling like they are blindly going to fire everybody. And to some extent they actually have to evaluate everybody's job before they go full Vince McMahon...

But yeah, personally, I don't need to see Jason Wright hanging out here too much longer.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1343439]For RR, the safer option is not the safer option. Ron apparently thought that Wentz was the safer option to start against Cleveland last season. [B]The truth is that he doesn't have a feel for offense in the modern NFL or for the QB position. [/B]

He had better leave the offense to EB and let him develop Sam if he wants to keep his job for the entire 2023 season. He's gone in 2024 no matter what. But if he stays out of EB's way in 2023, he may be offered a nice front office job with the team when EB is promoted to HC.[/quote]

Facts.

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Not working in full team drills today: TE Logan Thomas (calf), G Saahdiq Charles (calf), RB Curtis Samuel (leg). CB Emmanuel Forbes is taking reps.


Thomas, Charles, Samuel injured….or as I refer to them, the usual suspects

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Oline still scares me. So does Ron. Luckily EB is here to run the offense and Sam has wheels.

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Charles is always hurt and might just suck altogether, and Daniels looks like shit so far apparenlty.

I hope Paul is ready to play and Brooks is a UDFA gold pick-up. Otherwise, LG might be a clusterfuck this year.

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[url]https://www.commanders.com/news/commanders-release-first-2023-unofficial-depth-chart[/url]

Commanders release first 2023 unofficial depth chart

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That left side of the 0-line is going to be a disaster. How are those guys going to block the Eagles?

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1343457]That left side of the 0-line is going to be a disaster. How are those guys going to block the Eagles?[/QUOTE]Agreed. It's so bad I'm willing to stop complaining about David Mayo and start whining about Saadhiq Charles.

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Sadly they once again didn't lift a finger to truly gain talent on the o-line. I don't care who's scheming/calling the plays... it won't mean a damn thing if the opposing D is in the backfield in 2-3 seconds flat 80% of the time.

We will see how it plays out but I'm not looking forward to how badly Ron & Co may have handicapped not only Howell, but the team this season.

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[quote=Meks;1343460][B]Sadly they once again didn't lift a finger to truly gain talent on the o-line.[/B] I don't care who's scheming/calling the plays... it won't mean a damn thing if the opposing D is in the backfield in 2-3 seconds flat 80% of the time.

We will see how it plays out but I'm not looking forward to how badly Ron & Co may have handicapped not only Howell, but the team this season.[/quote]

I'm curious, which part do you think they could have done better beside signing 2 FA OLs and drafted 2 OLs?

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[quote=GridIron26;1343465]I'm curious, which part do you think they could have done better beside signing 2 FA OLs and drafted 2 OLs?[/quote]

Drafting a plug-in OL starter in the 2nd round. This might become less of an issue if Jartavius Martin plays well his rookie season. But this felt like more of a luxury pick, when we had needs on the OL.

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[quote=GridIron26;1343465]I'm curious, which part do you think they could have done better beside signing 2 FA OLs and drafted 2 OLs?[/quote]

They drafted 2 OL who aren't going to see the field this year, one of them may not make the team. Given the likely number of roster spots they have available, having more draft picks is not an advantage. They would have been better of trading 3rd and 4th rounders for a higher pick who could contribute. The 2 FAs were very much mid tier and one of them is being played out of his favoured position. So they really did not do much considering how the OL derailed last year.

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For fucks sakes, players are already complaining to Ron about EB. How we continue to be losers folks.

This is an opportunity for Terry and Sam to call out this pussy ass behavior.

Let’s see how they handle it

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[quote=Chico23231;1343469]For fucks sakes, players are already complaining to Ron about EB. How we continue to be losers folks.

This is an opportunity for Terry and Sam to call out this pussy ass behavior.

Let’s see how they handle it[/quote]

I read that. Unbelievable.

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[quote=Chico23231;1343469]For fucks sakes, players are already complaining to Ron about EB. How we continue to be losers folks.

This is an opportunity for Terry and Sam to call out this pussy ass behavior.

Let’s see how they handle it[/quote]

I think it's a good thing...if you can't handle the work, gtfo! It's the NFL and you're getting paid a lot to play ball for a living.

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Cut em. Idc who it is. Simply say “oh your pussy hurts in August? Clean out your locker we don’t need ya”. Im a little puzzled why Ron would divulge that information though.

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[quote=punch it in;1343472]Cut em. Idc who it is. Simply say “oh your pussy hurts in August? Clean out your locker we don’t need ya”. Im a little puzzled why Ron would divulge that information though.[/quote]

Ron has diarrhea of the mouth disease.

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Sounded like Ron was almost siding w/ Del Rio's style and gave a slight to EB. Ron sometimes says the dumbest crap. The nonsense about Del Rio being a HC vs EB not being one? C'mon dude.

He is here one more year. There is no way the new ownership group is going to keep him.

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[quote=Chico23231;1343469]For fucks sakes, players are already complaining to Ron about EB. How we continue to be losers folks.

This is an opportunity for Terry and Sam to call out this pussy ass behavior.

Let’s see how they handle it[/quote]

What happened now?

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WOW

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Get any softies out of here asap!

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[QUOTE=MTK;1343481]Get any softies out of here asap![/QUOTE]


Including Ron who apparently favors the coddling approach because that has really worked well for us. Im stunned about the slight to EB. What exactly does a HC do in Rons opinion? Read stories and tuck them in at night? Jeez.

After so many years of losing it is a breath of fresh air imo to have someone lighting a fire under these guys asses. You wanna start? Play? You better be working. Enough of this bullshit the guys love me crap. They love collecting paychecks and taking it easy in practice. Put these softies on notice. Ron should have said “gtfo than” not run to the press and called him out as a newbie. Man Im so done with Ron. Lol

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1343474]Sounded like Ron was almost siding w/ Del Rio's style and gave a slight to EB. Ron sometimes says the dumbest crap. The nonsense about Del Rio being a HC vs EB not being one? C'mon dude.

He is here one more year. There is no way the new ownership group is going to keep him.[/QUOTE]


Nope. Not unless they win 10 or more and I don’t think Ron has it in him. EB seems to but apparently Ron, like you said, would rather ignore it. Guys come to you and complain that the OC is too tough, and you say go talk to him than throw shade at him to the press? He should have made them run laps or go home and kept it in house. Take your naps, losing seasons, and absolute obliviousness elsewhere Ron.

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[quote=punch it in;1343483]Nope. Not unless they win 10 or more and I don’t think Ron has it in him. EB seems to but apparently Ron, like you said, would rather ignore it. Guys come to you and complain that the OC is too tough, and you say go talk to him than [B]throw shade at him to the press[/B]? He should have made them run laps or go home and kept it in house. Take your naps, losing seasons, and absolute obliviousness elsewhere Ron.[/quote]

I'm fine with Ron telling the players to go talk to EB about it. But it is a mistake to criticize EB in public. It seems like a cheap shot because people will think that Ron did it because he is afraid of losing his job to EB.

Do not put a new leader in place to solve a long-standing problem on offense and then bad-mouth him before his new offense even plays its first game! Do not undermine EB's authority by appeasing the whiners. Before this happened I would have said to Ron:"Go talk to to EB if you think he should tone it down a bit." But - whoops! - too late for that now, Ron.

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The media is killing Ron about this and the players. Another drama filled situation starting with a new owner lol. Man this franchise has some fucking curse on them or something.


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I really don’t have a problem with what Ron said, that said he needs to go to the less is more school because he talks in circles and leaves too much up for interpretation.

Just say some players complained, I told them tough shit.

Next question.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1343485]I'm fine with Ron telling the players to go talk to EB about it. But it is a mistake to criticize EB in public. It seems like a cheap shot because people will think that Ron did it because he is afraid of losing his job to EB.

Do not put a new leader in place to solve a long-standing problem on offense and then bad-mouth him before his new offense even plays its first game! Do not undermine EB's authority by appeasing the whiners. Before this happened I would have said to Ron:"Go talk to to EB if you think he should tone it down a bit." But - whoops! - too late for that now, Ron.[/quote]

More of 'making a mountain out of a mole hill'. Not you specifically, just the story in general.

I don't see where he criticized EB. He pointed out that he and Jack have different experiences, and they handle things differently. Not exactly a revelation, and not really being critical either. I don't even think he indicated that Jack's way was "better", only that EB hasn't been a HC before, and doesn't have the experience that comes with that - yet.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1343487]I really don’t have a problem with what Ron said, that said he needs to go to the less is more school because he talks in circles and leaves too much up for interpretation.

Just say some players complained, I told them tough shit.

Next question.[/QUOTE]


This.

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[quote=MTK;1343487]I really don’t have a problem with what Ron said, that said he needs to go to the less is more school because he talks in circles and leaves too much up for interpretation.

Just say some players complained, I told them tough shit.

Next question.[/quote]

Exactly. But the problem is he does this all the time.

EB presser, he handled it like a pro. Maybe time to move on from Ron to EB sooner than later

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[QUOTE=MTK;1343487]I really don’t have a problem with what Ron said, that said he needs to go to the less is more school because he talks in circles and leaves too much up for interpretation.

Just say some players complained, I told them tough shit.

Next question.[/QUOTE]


That would have been perfect if he said exactly that. Than left it alone instead of talking about EB the way he did. If I liked Ron the Coach these things wouldn’t bother me nearly as much. I don’t though so they are amplified.

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I really don't even care if we win a single game this year. We've already won before the season even begins.

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[quote=MTK;1343487]I really don’t have a problem with what Ron said, that said he needs to go to the less is more school because he talks in circles and leaves too much up for interpretation.

[B]Just say some players complained, I told them tough shit.[/B]

Next question.[/quote]

I'm not sure why he even needed to bring this up in the first place. He created this mess himself and made it worse by reading that ridiculous prepared statement. That said, because he did say that, he should have used your answer.

Considering how long RR has been in the NFL its amazing how inept he is with the media.

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Ron loves to hear himself talk that's for sure.