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[quote=mooby;1319408]Sooo, shut it down? Disband the FBI? They have no credibility right? So they have no ability to conduct an honest and impartial investigation?[/quote]

Mooby, you can’t see a problem or a trend?

The easy thing to do is just replace this situation with Obama, you would be good with this treatment?

The role of the FBI was the tipping point to the russiagate investigation…that said a sitting President worked with Russia, criminal and as well as obvious political ramification.

The major problem is this, evidence provided was not credible for an investigation. It should have stopped and ended at the FBI.

You don’t see this? Seriously?

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So, is MAGA ok with Trump stealing nuclear secrets? Can’t wait for the spin on this one

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The NYT has identified the Ohio shooting suspect as "Ricky Shiffer." There is a Truth Social account using that same name. On the same day the FBI executed a warrant on Mar A Lago, the account made a call to "be ready for combat" and to "Kill the FBI on sight."

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Seriously sick shit

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[quote=MTK;1319413]So, is MAGA ok with Trump stealing nuclear secrets? Can’t wait for the spin on this one[/quote]

Lol…and giving them to Russia I assume? “Stealing” is the frame? Ha!

There is a bigly difference between Hillary top secret documents emails on a private server or Gen Petraeus being caught with top secret documents at his home….and President Trump with top secret documents.

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[quote=Chico23231;1319416]Lol…and giving them to Russia I assume? “Stealing” is the frame? Ha!

[B]There is a bigly difference between Hillary top secret documents emails on a private server or Gen Petraeus being caught with top secret documents at his home….and President Trump with top secret documents[/B].[/quote]



Really, what? Please enlighten us?

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[quote=MTK;1319415]The NYT has identified the Ohio shooting suspect as "Ricky Shiffer." There is a Truth Social account using that same name. On the same day the FBI executed a warrant on Mar A Lago, the account made a call to "be ready for combat" and to "Kill the FBI on sight."

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Seriously sick shit

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Yep and I blame right wing media the most and yes Trump is a very close second (1A and 1B?)

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[quote=Chico23231;1319416]Lol…and giving them to Russia I assume? “Stealing” is the frame? Ha!

There is a bigly difference between Hillary top secret documents emails on a private server or Gen Petraeus being caught with top secret documents at his home….and President Trump with top secret documents.[/quote]

Well, in all honesty we have to wait and see what exactly he has done and been accused of in the warrant and maybe an eventual indictment to determine who was worse. I do suspect Trump is, but that is just my bias surfacing. We don't know yet.

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MAGA has been nothing but poison to this country. Total fucking shit show.

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[quote=Giantone;1319420]Really, what? Please enlighten us?[/quote]
chico,
Still waiting and you need to read this , really read it.

" If Trump “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys…any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk of officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States,” he will be disqualified from holding public office."


.[url]https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html[/url]

Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978
The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents that were created or received after January 20, 1981 (i.e., beginning with the Reagan Administration). The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of the President from private to public, and established a new statutory structure under which Presidents, and subsequently NARA, must manage the records of their Administrations. The PRA was amended in 2014, which established several new provisions.

[B]Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office. [/B]

[B]Prevents an individual who has been convicted of a crime related to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records from being given access to any original records. [/B]


Meaning he can't hold Office again.

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[quote=Giantone;1319420]Really, what? Please enlighten us?[/quote]

The President can declassify…unless democrats have changed the meaning of that word such as recession, woman, or biology

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[quote=MTK;1319423]MAGA has been nothing but poison to this country. Total fucking shit show.[/quote]

Political extremism is a problem…it’s like people have removed religion, they now have replaced it with twisted ideologies. Whether it’s Jan 6, this fbi attack above, Kavenaugh assassin, people rioting in Seattle and Portland on a weekly basis, etc.

It’s strange times

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[quote=mooby;1319402]My next door neighbor's son did that about 3-4 years ago to an Alexandria bike cop, I disagreed with his decision then and I still do now.

[B]Everybody wants things to be so black and white - when in reality we absolutely need police and law and order, but we also need police to do a better job in certain circumstances and we also need them to be held accountable when necessary.[/B] Nobody wants to have that conversation though, you either buy a thin blue line flag and stfu when a cop kneels on a guy's neck for 9 minutes for no reason or you need to go join the BLM protests for wanting innocent black people to stop being harassed for no reason.

I also find it hilarious the pro-law enforcement crowd is so quick to their defense only to howl about unfair treatment when their favorite politician's house gets raided because [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/us/politics/trump-fbi-subpoena.html?referringSource=articleShare"]he still won't return all the fucking classified info[/URL] despite signing a bill that makes it a felony in his first year in office.[/quote]

I agree with this 100 percent.

I am pro law enforcement. It's a tough job man, and I'm glad there are still men and women willing to do it. I also know there are bad cops, and cops who make mistakes, but they don't represent the majority. I have friends who are cops, whose wives wonder if they'll be the next cop targeted, and I have friends who are black, whose wives worry if they or their kids will come home every time they leave the house. Not being either, I can't truly know how that feels, but I know it's a problem worth having the conversations about.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319429]I agree with this 100 percent.

I am pro law enforcement. It's a tough job man, and I'm glad there are still men and women willing to do it. I also know there are bad cops, and cops who make mistakes, but they don't represent the majority. I have friends who are cops, whose wives wonder if they'll be the next cop targeted, and I have friends who are black, whose wives worry if they or their kids will come home every time they leave the house. Not being either, I can't truly know how that feels, but I know it's a problem worth having the conversations about.[/quote]

I’ve still never met or known anyone about who defends the cop who killed George Floyd, yet I’ve met a lot of folks and know personally some who believe cops kill people daily for no reason and the majority of the police are corrupt.

That’s the big problem, because once you present them with the facts, they refuse to believe the data.

And to add, there are still terrible police out there..and anyone who is a cop and abusing that authority should be locked up after being prosecuted to the fullest. No exceptions. The DOJ should be vetting out departments that have systematic issues, that breed corrupt practices

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[quote=Chico23231;1319427]Political extremism is a problem…it’s like people have removed religion, they now have replaced it with twisted ideologies. Whether it’s Jan 6, this fbi attack above, Kavenaugh assassin, people rioting in Seattle and Portland on a weekly basis, etc.

It’s strange times[/quote]

Strange indeed! This is your people!


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nevrJvkRLhk[/url]

The Nightly Nuge 8.9.22 Special Report Trump Home Raid

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1319427]Political extremism is a problem…it’s like people have removed religion, they now have replaced it with twisted ideologies. Whether it’s Jan 6, this fbi attack above, Kavenaugh assassin, people rioting in Seattle and Portland on a weekly basis, etc.

It’s strange times[/QUOTE]


What is strange is you help perpetuate the anti FBI shit after they go after Trump, and then you turn around and wonder why it is happening. If you are doing it on here, chances are you are doing it on several other forums.

Nice touch with the PORTLAND IS BURNING! LOL

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[QUOTE=MTK;1319413]So, is MAGA ok with Trump stealing nuclear secrets? Can’t wait for the spin on this one[/QUOTE]


False flag.
Hillary did it first.
It was planted.
Dems are pedophiles and that is worse.
I know he did but what are you?

Pick one.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1319405][url]https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-b9b3c7ef398d00d5dfee9170d66cefec[/url]

A former FBI lawyer pleaded guilty Wednesday to altering a document related to the secret surveillance of a former Trump campaign adviser during the Russia investigation.

Kevin Clinesmith is the first current or former official to be charged in a special Justice Department review of the investigation into ties between Russia and Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. Attorney General William Barr appointed John Durham, the U.S. attorney in Connecticut, to scrutinize decisions made by officials during that probe.

Clinesmith pleaded guilty to a single false statement charge, admitting that he doctored an email that the FBI relied on as it sought court approval to eavesdrop on former Trump campaign aide Carter Page in 2017.

[url]https://apnews.com/article/north-america-donald-trump-russia-ap-top-news-politics-53e7ad58a231407882a32258cccc0432[/url]

Peter Strzok, a longtime FBI agent who was removed from the Russia investigation over anti-Trump text messages, has been fired by the agency, his lawyer said Monday.

The FBI had been reviewing Strzok’s employment after the politically charged text messages were discovered last year. President Donald Trump’s allies have seized on the texts, saying they show the investigation into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia is tainted by political bias.

In another text, Page wrote Strzok in August 2016: ”(Trump’s) not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”

Strzok responded: “No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it.”

Strzok worked on the early stages of the Russia investigation in 2016 and worked on the special counsel’s team for a few months after Robert Mueller was appointed in May 2017.

[url]https://www.npr.org/2019/08/29/755402701/doj-comey-violated-policy-on-his-trump-memos-but-wont-be-prosecuted[/url]

Former FBI Director James Comey violated official policy in the way he handled his memos describing his exchanges with President Trump, an investigation concluded — but Comey won't be charged.

IG report [url]https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6359881-OIG-Report-Comey[/url]

Comey tells lawyer to share the substance of memos with the NYT, but not the memo itself[/QUOTE]


Still dont understand that patriots will do what they have to before they let a compromised mobster into the Oval Office?
I mean it isn’t like they were worried he would get shady with nuclear codes and documents….oh wait. Maybe they were onto something? Maybe, just maybe they knew this clown was bad news.

The more that comes out, the more you try and paint Trump as a victim. It is fucking laughable. If you do not think the IA’s were aware of what your MAGA God was capable of well before he was elected then you are just naïve. It wasn’t a “witch hunt” Chico. It was a fuckin attempt to save our democracy. Jesus Christ when are you going to open your eyes?

I love how you look at the page and strzok exchange as “oh my God we can’t let him beat Hillary!” As opposed to “holy shit if this guy wins our democracy is in danger”.

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Fox is hysterical right now. Great comedy…

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Terrible if true, and hardly a mistake if it's clearly marked which they usually are - on the top and the bottom in RED.

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[quote=Chico23231;1319430]I’ve still never met or known anyone about who defends the cop who killed George Floyd, yet I’ve met a lot of folks and know personally some who believe cops kill people daily for no reason and the majority of the police are corrupt.

[/quote]

Carlson replied: "So, they destroy the city, they put this cop in prison for the rest of his life. We all have to pretend he committed murder, which he didn't, but whatever, we have to pretend it, and then they leave and they move on to the next thing to destroy. So perfect."
[url]https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-derek-chauvin-murder-george-floyd-1730298[/url]

Political affiliation emerged as the most divisive dictator of opinions on the trial’s outcome, with 90% of Democrats saying jurors reached the right verdict, while a slim majority (54%) of Republicans said the same.

Nearly half (46%) of the Republicans surveyed felt the jury had come to the wrong decision in convicting Chauvin of murder versus just 10% of Democrats and 25% of Independents who thought the verdict was wrong.
[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/04/25/nearly-half-of-republicans-think-derek-chauvin-verdict-was-wrong-poll-shows/?sh=430a3b1366e8[/url]

I think you may be more left than most Rs on this one Chico. The poll .. only 2.5k polled and there is a difference in "was floyd murdered" vs "was guilty verdict correct". so it is what it is

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If you couldn’t see this coming you weren’t looking.

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[quote=SunnySide;1319444]Carlson replied: "So, they destroy the city, they put this cop in prison for the rest of his life. We all have to pretend he committed murder, which he didn't, but whatever, we have to pretend it, and then they leave and they move on to the next thing to destroy. So perfect."
[url]https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-derek-chauvin-murder-george-floyd-1730298[/url]

Political affiliation emerged as the most divisive dictator of opinions on the trial’s outcome, with 90% of Democrats saying jurors reached the right verdict, while a slim majority (54%) of Republicans said the same.

Nearly half (46%) of the Republicans surveyed felt the jury had come to the wrong decision in convicting Chauvin of murder versus just 10% of Democrats and 25% of Independents who thought the verdict was wrong.
[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/04/25/nearly-half-of-republicans-think-derek-chauvin-verdict-was-wrong-poll-shows/?sh=430a3b1366e8[/url]

I think you may be more left than most Rs on this one Chico. The poll .. only 2.5k polled and there is a difference in "was floyd murdered" vs "was guilty verdict correct". so it is what it is

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Murder = premeditation…I think that what Tucker is emphasizing here. Eh, I don’t hear any defense of the police action. Newsweek is shit source to be honest, here they are spreading fake news propaganda about the raid:

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/media/newsweek-blasted-incorrectly-claiming-merrick-garland-didnt-know-about-fbis-trump-raid[/url]

Only to have Garland come out and say he did.

So the poll you posted have the majority on both sides agreeing, which is great.
Here is Michael Brown poll after they correctly didn’t indict the officer that shot him after Eric holder carried his ass back to Washington agreeing Michael Brown getting shot didn’t warrant charges against the officer:

[url]https://time.com/3613454/ferguson-poll-racial-partisan/[/url]

More than three-quarters of Republicans agreed that Wilson shouldn’t have been charged, while 27% of Democrats agreed. It’s like Democrats don’t care these hero’s patrolling the streets nor the facts of the case.

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Is anyone still reading these desperate diatribes? [emoji3516]

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Imagine if back in the day 40 percent of the Americans thought that George Washington was a threat, and that Benedict Arnold was the patriot?
Can you imagine that?

Not to compare Biden to Washington cus there isn’t a revolution. Well not one we have to be worried about.

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Even the FOX people except Hannity and Tucker are saying what in the hell was he thinking. trump is saying he declassified those papers himself. Not the way it works there is a whole process to redacting things and such before anything is declassified.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319429]I agree with this 100 percent.

I am pro law enforcement. It's a tough job man, and I'm glad there are still men and women willing to do it. I also know there are bad cops, and cops who make mistakes, but they don't represent the majority. I have friends who are cops, whose wives wonder if they'll be the next cop targeted, and I have friends who are black, whose wives worry if they or their kids will come home every time they leave the house. Not being either, I can't truly know how that feels, but I know it's a problem worth having the conversations about.[/quote]

Preach Chief. We agree on this.

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The unredacted Warrant that was released to the press has also released the names of the FBI agents who were just doing their jobs , they are now being threaten with their address being released/ shared on line.

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Business Insider
'It's over' for the Trump Organization if its CFO Allen Weisselberg pleads guilty, legal analyst and ex-prosecutor says



[url]https://news.yahoo.com/over-trump-organization-cfo-allen-084044668.html[/url]


"Once Allen Weisselberg pleads guilty, it's over for the Trump Organization," said Andrew Weissmann, a law professor at New York University and former lead prosecutor under Robert Mueller, on MSNBC's "The Last Word" with Lawrence O'Donnell.

He said that crimes committed by Weisselberg would be attributed to the Trump Organization, meaning the company would also be held responsible for the charges.

The Trump Organization is scheduled to face trial on October 24. If Weisselberg does not take a plea deal and goes to court, he will face trial alongside the business group. Both he and the Trump Organization have pleaded not guilty.

"So the leverage in terms of the financial consequences to Donald Trump doesn't mean he's going to jail, but the consequences for the Trump Organization are huge," Weissman said.

"Remember, for those people who think Donald Trump did this in part for money, that he's venal, this is a big deal," he added.

Weissman said that if he were advising Trump on handling the list of investigations and lawsuits against him, he would prioritize dealing with the consequences of Weisselberg's plea deal.

Trump currently faces six lawsuits, three criminal investigations, and a civil investigation on top of his indictment by the Manhattan District Attorney's office. He has also filed two lawsuits — one against his niece, Mary Trump, and another against his former election rival Hillary Clinton.

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LOL, the trump Kids are as stupid as chico is!


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/eric-trump-said-republican-party-080220266.html[/url]

INSIDER
Eric Trump said the Republican Party is 'actually the Trump party,' claiming his father changed how the GOP operate.

Eric Trump said on Wednesday that the Republican party should be called "the Trump party."

He referred to his father's endorsement record as a sign of his influence in the GOP.

He said Donald Trump had "redefined" the Republican party and how it operates.

Eric Trump said on Wednesday that his father, former President Donald Trump, is the key defining feature of the GOP and that the Republican party should be known as the "Trump party."

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[quote=Giantone;1319807]LOL, the trump Kids are as stupid as chico is!

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/eric-trump-said-republican-party-080220266.html[/url]

INSIDER
Eric Trump said the Republican Party is 'actually the Trump party,' claiming his father changed how the GOP operate.

Eric Trump said on Wednesday that the Republican party should be called "the Trump party."

He referred to his father's endorsement record as a sign of his influence in the GOP.

He said Donald Trump had "redefined" the Republican party and how it operates.

Eric Trump said on Wednesday that his father, former President Donald Trump, is the key defining feature of the GOP and that the Republican party should be known as the "Trump party."[/quote]

I'm all for no parties, or as many parties as possible. I actually wish there was a Trump party. They should create their own separate party. Then they can all get matching shirts and walk around together, and the rest of us can go back to normal.

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[quote=MTK;1319200]Funny how the party of law and order is now saying defund the FBI. Fucking traitors and bootlickers.[/quote]

This

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Now its “destroy” the fbi. As always the Trumpers are carrying things waaaay too far.

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Wow we are officially in the upside down world now

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[quote=MTK;1320064]Wow we are officially in the upside down world now

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Too late. The Maga cultists are locked into Trump. Just lurk on Free Republic to see what I mean. Fox is part of the deep state, left wing media etc according to posters there. Newsmax and OAN are the only reliable source now.

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It was too late for the MAGA mouth breathers right from the start.

Hilary was right when she called them deplorables.

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Corden Mocks Vendor Stiffed by Trump’s Truth Social for More Than $1 Million: ‘You Knew What Was Gonna Happen’


[url]https://www.thewrap.com/corden-mocks-truth-social-vendor-trump-stiffed/[/url]


James Corden has absolutely no sympathy for a Truth Social vendor who has reportedly been stiffed out of more than $1 million by twice-impeached former president Donald Trump. According to the late night host, this scenario was all too easy to avoid because of how predictable it was.

According to Fox Business this week, Trump’s social media platform is facing allegations from a vendor of not paying more than $1 million in contractually obligated payments. That vendor is speculated to be RightForge, which entered into an agreement to host Truth Social back in October of last year, but the company declined to comment “on any private matters” to the outlet. Regardless of who the vendor is, though, Corden doesn’t have any words of comfort.

“Look, it’s 2022. If you willingly do work with a Trump business, the problem’s you,” Corden said bluntly. “You knew what was gonna happen, OK? You must’ve seen this.”

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Trump having a meltdown today on “Truth” Social, retweeting wacked out Q shit. Oh and now Google is banning the TS app from their platform lol

What a lunatic

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JFC, this guy is so done

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