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skinsfaninok 02-29-2020 11:02 PM

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Bradberry had a 59.3 REC PERCENTAGE against this yr, 48 rec/81 targets.

Not 15M a yr worth

Luxorreb 03-01-2020 01:50 AM

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Bradberry not worth money. Sign Dunbar and Breeland.

Chico23231 03-01-2020 07:06 AM

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[quote=Luxorreb;1245637]Bradberry not worth money. Sign Dunbar and Breeland.[/quote]

I def would do this before spending 15 million for Bradberry. He have a lot of cap space, but if we waste it doesn’t matter.

SkinzWin 03-01-2020 10:38 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1245640]I def would do this before spending 15 million for Bradberry. He have a lot of cap space, but if we waste it doesn’t matter.[/quote]

I’m yeah it matters if we waste it. If we are tied up in garbage FA players in a few years it will hamper us from continuing to build our team. That statement makes no sense.

EdmundDorf 03-01-2020 11:17 AM

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It always seems that every average player thinks he will be the one who deserves to reset the market, I think Bradberry will still be available after a few weeks at a much more reasonable price.... they all think they are stars....see Dunbar, Quinton

SkinzWin 03-01-2020 08:31 PM

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Bradberry... sounds like Ron is on a mission to complete Carolina North.

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/report-redskins-expected-chase-panthers-cb-james-bradberry-free-agency[/url]

Randall Nestor 03-02-2020 06:14 AM

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We need to stop being the market setters for free agents.

Buffalo Bob 03-02-2020 07:13 AM

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[quote=Randall Nestor;1245684]We need to stop being the market setters for free agents.[/quote]

It does seem the Redskins have a history of not getting what they pay for with high dollar free agents under Snyder.

MTK 03-02-2020 07:40 AM

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We haven’t been market setters for years now


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Buffalo Bob 03-02-2020 08:02 AM

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Should be interesting with all the quarterbacks that could hit the market and with 3 that could be picked top 10.

SunnySide 03-02-2020 11:20 AM

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The Los Angeles Chargers would like to work out a multi-year deal with tight end Hunter Henry, who is set to be a free agent. But they are more than likely willing to franchise tag him, according to NFL Media’s Ian Rapoport.

The franchise tag would pay Henry a little over $11 million in 2020, per Over the Cap. That would be a significant increase in pay on his $1.2 million base salary for 2019.

When healthy, he is easily one of the league’s top tight ends. He’s averaging 8.9 yards per target and has 17 touchdowns in 41 games. Along with his impressive skillset as a pass-catcher, Henry has been a reliable run-blocker.
[url]https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/01/report-chargers-likely-to-franchise-tag-te-hunter-henry/[/url]

Hunter Henry appears to be off the market. That sucks, he seemed to be the better pass catcher btw Hooper but probably not as good of a blocker but still a good blocker.

skinsfaninok 03-02-2020 12:41 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1245712]The Los Angeles Chargers would like to work out a multi-year deal with tight end Hunter Henry, who is set to be a free agent. But they are more than likely willing to franchise tag him, according to NFL Media’s Ian Rapoport.

The franchise tag would pay Henry a little over $11 million in 2020, per Over the Cap. That would be a significant increase in pay on his $1.2 million base salary for 2019.

When healthy, he is easily one of the league’s top tight ends. He’s averaging 8.9 yards per target and has 17 touchdowns in 41 games. Along with his impressive skillset as a pass-catcher, Henry has been a reliable run-blocker.
[url]https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/01/report-chargers-likely-to-franchise-tag-te-hunter-henry/[/url]

Hunter Henry appears to be off the market. That sucks, he seemed to be the better pass catcher btw Hooper but probably not as good of a blocker but still a good blocker.[/quote]

Looks like Hooper or bust at this point

sdskinsfan2001 03-02-2020 01:06 PM

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Back the Brinks truck up for Hooper. Get it done.

All I want for Christmas are my two front targets (Hooper in FA and Chase in draft).

We have the cap space and the cap is going to increase. Pay the man.

SkinzWin 03-03-2020 07:05 AM

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@JennaLaimeESPN is reporting

Two players I’m told are being shopped around, per sources in Indy: Cordy Glenn (Bengals) and Trai Turner (Panthers). If no trade partner can be found, Glenn would be released.

Turner over Moses???

NYCskinfan82 03-03-2020 07:58 AM

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Turner plays Guard I believe.

Defensewins 03-03-2020 08:59 AM

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[quote=SkinzWin;1245781]@JennaLaimeESPN is reporting

Two players I’m told are being shopped around, per sources in Indy: Cordy Glenn (Bengals) and Trai Turner (Panthers). If no trade partner can be found, Glenn would be released.

Turner over Moses???[/quote]

Cordy Glenn has struggled with injuries for years, has a $9.5 million cap number, will turn 31 in September and had similar[B] injury-chemistry[/B] problems in Buffalo before the Bills were happy to unload his contract via trade.

[B][U]Guard[/U][/B] Trai Turner on the other is 26-year-old, will be just 27 by the start of training camp, has been to [B]five straight Pro Bowls[/B], and has two years remaining on the four-year, $45 million contract he signed with Carolina back in 2017.
His cap hit does bump up to nearly $13 million for 2020 and balloons to $15.4 million in 2021, so that could be part of the reason why the Panthers are allegedly looking to cut bait.
[B][U]Question for the Cap experts on this site:[/U][/B], if the Panthers $13 million cap number in 2020 for Turner is broken down to $8.5 million in base salary and $3.9 Millions in prorated bonus, how much of that goes to the new team? The entire thing ro just the base salary? Cause $8.5 Million is not terrible for 27 year old five time probowler, $13 million is too much.

Chico23231 03-03-2020 09:19 AM

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[quote=Defensewins;1245784]Cordy Glenn has struggled with injuries for years, has a $9.5 million cap number, will turn 31 in September and had similar[B] injury-chemistry[/B] problems in Buffalo before the Bills were happy to unload his contract via trade.

[B][U]Guard[/U][/B] Trai Turner on the other is 26-year-old, will be just 27 by the start of training camp, has been to [B]five straight Pro Bowls[/B], and has two years remaining on the four-year, $45 million contract he signed with Carolina back in 2017.
His cap hit does bump up to nearly $13 million for 2020 and balloons to $15.4 million in 2021, so that could be part of the reason why the Panthers are allegedly looking to cut bait.
[B][U]Question for the Cap experts on this site:[/U][/B], if the Panthers $13 million cap number in 2020 for Turner is broken down to $8.5 million in base salary and $3.9 Millions in prorated bonus, how much of that goes to the new team? The entire thing ro just the base salary? Cause $8.5 Million is not terrible for 27 year old five time probowler, $13 million is too much.[/quote]

I mean, Ill take this Ron connection over Bradberry at 15 mill. I think you have to look at how much would you offer Flowers at a resigning and if a couple million more per to get Turner....then you get Turner. Having Schreff Rouierre/Martin and Turner in the interior...shit, sign me up. That's solid

EdmundDorf 03-03-2020 09:29 AM

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I am sure Schneed will have the exact details but I think the new team would only have to cover the salary not the bonuses.... . So it would be a good contract for a pro bowler in their prime, but because of that they will want a good haul of draft picks in return..... which the Redskins dont have. They likely wont take players as a swap because this trade tells us that they are in rebuild mode. But someone like Seattle, New England or Philapdelphia will be at the head of the queue

skinsfaninok 03-03-2020 10:25 AM

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Last I read it was 63M available but not sure if that is legit

SunnySide 03-03-2020 02:47 PM

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Laremy Tunsil wants $19-20 million per season

Last week from the NFL scouting combine, Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle cited sources that said Tunsil wants “at least” between $19-20 million per season. Lane Johnson of the Philadelphia Eagles is the highest paid offensive lineman in the NFL at $18 million per season.

Texans paid a lot to get Tunsil

Just before last season, the Texans shipped a 2020 first-round pick, a 2021 first-round pick, a 2021 second-round pick, cornerback Johnson Bademosi and tackle Julien Davenport to the Texans for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round pick. The key to that trade, without question, was Tunsil.

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/texans-ot-laremy-tunsil-who-reportedly-wants-1920-million-per-year-fires-agent-174908639.html[/url]

Texans, I understand why you went all in. You have Hopkins, Watson, JJ Watt is getting older ... and to a degree if kinda worked. You were sitting in the Division playoffs up 21-0 in the 1st Q against the eventual SB winning Chiefs.

How the hell did you not have a sign and trade or some kind of new LTD agreed to w Tunsil BEFORE the trade.

2 1st rounders .... are walking out your door.

Tough break. The kinda gamble that could set you back a ways.

sdskinsfan2001 03-03-2020 03:40 PM

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This is why you need to draft OL every year. 20 million a year for Tunsil. Yeah right. Bye bye. Due to what they gave up they might have to pay up though.

sdskinsfan2001 03-03-2020 03:42 PM

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Franchise Scherff for this season then let him walk next year. Resign Flowers and plug Martin in at RG in 2021.

Trade Trent too and draft his replacement with the pick.

SunnySide 03-03-2020 04:05 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1245842]This is why you need to draft OL every year. 20 million a year for Tunsil. Yeah right. Bye bye. Due to what they gave up they might have to pay up though.[/quote]

Id be interested to see the breakdown of how 1st Round OTs perform over a career vs OTs drafted 2nd round and later. Just going off memory and perception ... it seems like a large majority of premier OTs go 1st round. im sure there are some 2nd rounders that pan out and maybe one or two late round picks ..... but it just seems like if you want a true anchor, you have to go 1st round pick for a OT, more than any other position.

I guess, id rather go G, C or TE in rounds 3-7 vs ending up w a Geron Christian.

Im surprised there arent more college TEs who have no shot at playing TE at the NFL level bc of lack of speed but have the footwork and physical make up arent being groomed for OT spots like Dunbar went from WR to CB.

MTK 03-03-2020 04:17 PM

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With a new CBA around the corner get ready for contracts to go through the roof. We're not far off from $20M a year for a premium OL.

Chico23231 03-04-2020 08:06 AM

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If Brady doesn't come back to Pats...he goes to the 49ers. I think its 50-50 right now

Buffalo Bob 03-04-2020 08:25 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1245880]If Brady doesn't come back to Pats...he goes to the 49ers. I think its 50-50 right now[/quote]

How could they afford to pay $60 mil for the QB position?

Chico23231 03-04-2020 08:54 AM

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Tom contract demands are overblown...San Fran I believe is close to where he grew up and I think he was a 49ers and Montana/young fan growing up. This isn’t about the money, he will go a place he can win a championship which is the Pats or a “now” contender

Buffalo Bob 03-04-2020 09:42 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1245884]Tom contract demands are overblown...San Fran I believe is close to where he grew up and I think he was a 49ers and Montana/young fan growing up. This isn’t about the money, he will go a place he can win a championship which is the Pats or a “now” contender[/quote]

I does seem strange that all of a sudden the talking heads claim Brady wants to get paid after never prioritizing money in the past. Flipping stations driving around yesterday so I don't know where I heard it, rumor has it the rift in New England is due to Brady steering players toward his people when it comes to rehabbing injuries and not using the Patriot staff and facilities. Supposedly control freak Belichick isn't happy about that.

SFREDSKIN 03-04-2020 10:24 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1245884]Tom contract demands are overblown...San Fran I believe is close to where he grew up and I think he was a 49ers and Montana/young fan growing up. This isn’t about the money, he will go a place he can win a championship which is the Pats or a “now” contender[/quote]

Tom is from San Mateo 20 minutes from Levy Stadium, if this happens he might recruit Julian Edelman who is from Redwood City, right down the road. Personally I doubt all this will happen, there is a fan poll going around and 71% want Jimmy G.

sevier2 03-04-2020 10:45 AM

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[quote=MTK;1245687]We haven’t been market setters for years now


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True. Aside from Collins last year.... and Norman a few years prior to that...

In today's NFL it's basically whoever the most recently signed player is that will set the market at that position.

skinsfaninok 03-04-2020 12:18 PM

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Ben Albright is reporting the Skins and Eagles are the top 2 teams in the Byron Jones race

CRedskinsRule 03-04-2020 12:24 PM

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why do we covet dallas players...ugh

MTK 03-04-2020 12:28 PM

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If we’re going to spend at corner Jones is worth it


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skinsfaninok 03-04-2020 12:32 PM

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[quote=MTK;1245915]If we’re going to spend at corner Jones is worth it


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I Agree, he's better than Bradberry overall and has shut down some really good WRs

SunnySide 03-04-2020 12:55 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1245912]Ben Albright is reporting the Skins and Eagles are the top 2 teams in the Byron Jones race[/quote]

Who knows what is smoke and what is real interest at this stage. Interesting if true though bc that would mean 2 NFC E teams are in and, presumably, they would know the player better than non-division teams.

Bradberry or Jones ... I assume we add one, and am resigned to the fact that we will have to overpay but with top end FAs that what you have to do.

Just hope its in the 15M range at most.

sdskinsfan2001 03-04-2020 01:00 PM

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Fuck it, sign em both (Bradberry and Jones). Throw in Hooper. That's like 40-45 million in cap space for next year. We have 61. Think we can still create more by extending Kerrigan, etc. And the cap is supposedly going up quite a bit next couple years.

GridIron26 03-04-2020 01:04 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1245916]I Agree, he's better than Bradberry overall and has shut down some really good WRs[/quote]

I wonder if Bradberry is Redskins' back up plan if they aren't able to sign Jones. That would would make more sense than the rumors that Bradberry is expected to sign with Redskins simply because of the connection to Riveria.

mooby 03-04-2020 01:42 PM

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[quote=MTK;1245915]If we’re going to spend at corner Jones is worth it


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Really better not hear any bitching when he goes 4 seasons without a pick for us.

skinsfaninok 03-04-2020 01:53 PM

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[quote=mooby;1245928]Really better not hear any bitching when he goes 4 seasons without a pick for us.[/quote]

People don't throw his way much, and he plays Man coverage mostly so that has a big part to do with it

mredskins 03-04-2020 01:54 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1245884]Tom contract demands are overblown...San Fran I believe is close to where he grew up and I think he was a 49ers and Montana/young fan growing up. This isn’t about the money, he will go a place he can win a championship which is the Pats or a “now” contender[/quote]

Seriously who wants Tom Brady? IMO he has one year left at best and you better surround him with an ALL PRO offense otherwise he isn't doing poop.


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