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Scherff and Roullier are DNP for Wed and Thurs.

[url]https://www.redskins.com/team/injury-report/[/url]
If:

Wes Martin replaces Scherff
+
Bergstrom replaces Roullier
=
A guy named Ross Pierschbacher is next man up for C or G

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[quote=SunnySide;1231837]Scherff and Roullier are DNP for Wed and Thurs.

[url]https://www.redskins.com/team/injury-report/[/url]
If:

Wes Martin replaces Scherff
+
Bergstrom replaces Roullier
=
A guy named Ross Pierschbacher is next man up for C or G[/quote]

At this point it really doesn't matter

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1231841]At this point it really doesn't matter[/quote]

in this situation, a run game would be nice vs dropping back 35 times.

Sucks Guice got injured, at least we would get to watch him, Sweat, Mclaurin and Moreland to see what we have in them.

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[quote=SunnySide;1231845]in this situation, a run game would be nice vs dropping back 35 times.

Sucks Guice got injured, at least we would get to watch him, Sweat, Mclaurin and Moreland to see what we have in them.[/quote]

Scary Terry isn't practicing today , Hamstring

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If it isn't obvious by now that Scherff is playing injured, it should be. He hasn't looked the same this year and it shows.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1231852]Scary Terry isn't practicing today , Hamstring[/quote]

Yup, hammys can linger and be a pain all season if its not rested. From listening to Jay yesterday, it seemed like he was being held out as a precaution but should be a full go on Sunday.

I guess we see if the training staff can do its job or are we sending another slightly injured play in to play and get an extended injury a la guice.

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Haskins quote...' I want to be like*Tom Brady*and*Drew Brees*and that's something that doesn't happen overnight. Tom didn't play at first

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1231852]Scary Terry isn't practicing today , Hamstring[/quote]

Ugh, he was one of the ONLY joys I had watching this team. I WILL say the drama is delicious right now. Maybe some real change will happen?!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1231896]Ugh, he was one of the ONLY joys I had watching this team. I WILL say the drama is delicious right now. Maybe some real change will happen?![/quote]

It wil. Oh, it will

Can the Redskins Beat the Giants in Game 4?
 

The Redskins have an opportunity to beat a team as bad as they are. In my opinion the Redskins have better players than the Giants but this is offset by very poor coaching.

The difference is attitude and drive. The Giants are playing inspired football with their new franchise QB. The Redskins are waiting for their HC and DC to be fired. The ‘skins are playing behind a QB, who drifts between average ability in garbage time and truly dreadful when facing a really good defense. The Giants don’t have a good defense. Scherff is NOT playing, neither is Jordan Reed. The Redskins OL could be reaching critical mass before it implodes.

It remains to be seen if some Redskins have mentally checked out for the season and await big coaching changes. Gruden teams always come out FLAT in must-win games. This is a must-win game for Jay and Greg Manusky.

I think Jones will carry his team to victory: 28-17. Bye Jay.


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With all these [URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/9/27/20887717/coaching-rumors-jay-gruden-could-be-fired-if-the-redskins-lose-to-the-giants-on-sunday"]rumors[/URL] surfacing about Gruden potentially being fired if we lose on Sunday... it's getting real hard to not be rooting for a loss against the Giants...

Re: Can the Redskins Beat the Giants in Game 4?
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1231917]With all these [URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/9/27/20887717/coaching-rumors-jay-gruden-could-be-fired-if-the-redskins-lose-to-the-giants-on-sunday"]rumors[/URL] surfacing about Gruden potentially being fired if we lose on Sunday... it's getting real hard to not be rooting for a loss against the Giants...[/quote]

Let's go G-Men.

Although the question that truly matters is, who do we have to lose to, to get Allen fired?

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1231933]Let's go G-Men.



Although the question that truly matters is, who do we have to lose to, to get Allen fired?[/QUOTE]Vinny was allowed to hire Zorn for two years before DS fired Vinny in Dec. If BA is not fired before Gruden then I think that means (sadly) BA will get one more coach choice that is purely his, and we will have to wait for that coach to implode. Likely it will be someone as unqualified as Zorn was and we will waste 2 more years before starting the cycle all over.

What a grim time to be a Skins fan.

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If they fire Gruden. Who will become the head coach?

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1231937]If they fire Gruden. Who will become the head coach?[/quote]

Doesn't matter if they don't get rid of Allen. The pool of candidates willing to work here will shrink as long as Snyder trusts Allen to run the ship.

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That’s my point. Getting rid of jay gets us nothing.

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If Gruden gets fired midseason, they'll probably just promote somebody from inside to HC, most obvious (and everybody's guess) is O'Connell.

That might actually be a good opportunity to keep him around vs letting the next McVay/Shanahan/LaFleur walk out the door... wouldn't it ?
Everybody is raving about this kid, and the one thing that has been working so far is the passing offense, way better than last year, and we all thought that would be the weakness of this team.

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Only someone unknown like O’Connell would come here to work under BA & Snyder. Having a poor GM like BA is a huge handicap to any new HC.

The last 20 years has proved that Snyder’s system of management and owner intrusion has been a complete failure for even the best HC. Until BA is replaced by a real, NFL-savvy GM and Snyder takes his hands off this team, no HC can succeed.


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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1231937]If they fire Gruden. Who will become the head coach?[/quote]

Gregg Williams.

The second G is for genius.

Or Todd Bowles.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1232322]Gregg Williams.

The second G is for genius.

Or Todd Bowles.[/quote]

I wouldn’t retread but if Bruce is still in charge, it maybe are only hope.

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[quote=Chico23231;1232326]I wouldn’t retread but if Bruce is still in charge, it maybe are only hope.[/quote]

Nobody with options is coming here.

I think we could use some more of this:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk3cnLvlhhs[/url]

Williams' teams play gap sound football:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQtJW6PvkFg[/url]

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1232327]Nobody with options is coming here.



I think we could use some more of this:



[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk3cnLvlhhs[/url]



Williams' teams play gap sound football:



[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQtJW6PvkFg[/url][/QUOTE]



Exactly why on Earth would anyone with a choice choose this fucking dumpster fire? People still acting like we have some sort of leverage. Good for TW sticking it up this organizations ass. I wish him the best wherever he lands. Any other player on this team that could start elsewhere follow him. Dont throw your career away playing for this fucking moron Douche Snyder.

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The Redskins organization, Dan Snyder and BA all have a terrible reputation across the NFL. Why come to a team where very good and even HOF HC have ALL failed? Who wants to work for an idiot boss and his vindictive lackey, BA? Most players and coaches leave the Redskin’s organization on bad terms - another cautionary tale for would-be HC.

The only people who want to come to this franchise have one of the following attributes:


1. First time as a HC:
Gruden got his shot here. O’Connell May be the next one.

2. Unlikely to EVER have a chance as an NFL HC: Zorn and Spurrier

3. Past HC who were past their prime and greatly underestimated the problems of working under such a bad and meddlesome owner. Gibbs, schottenhiemmer and Shanahan.

The longer Snyder is the owner, the more well known are his issues as a crummy and intrusive boss. His track record of failure is also legend. This eliminates the #3 candidates. Snyder is too much trouble. Same with the highest quality first-time HC. We’re left with the unknowns like O’Connell or those out of their depth like Zorn and Spurrier.


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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1231940]That’s my point. Getting rid of jay gets us nothing.[/quote]

I think it would but only if we promoted O’Connell and played Haskins...then we would at least knew if we had something with that combo going into the offseason.

Not playing Haskins is once again negligent for the franchise. This season is fucking over...done. We need to play the rookie and see if we could move a vet or two for picks...

Re: Can the Redskins Beat the Giants in Game 4?
 

[quote=punch it in;1231437]Honestly losing every game for years might be the only way public pressure mounts on Dick Snyder to sell the team. So I will be rooting for the Giants, and we can lose to anyone.[/quote]


Yeah, right? Browns, Saints, Bengals,Jets, Jaguars etc..
Nope, losing happens for as long as the league wants it to.
Public doesn't pressure crap.. they sit on their ass, bitch like children and keep shoveling money at losers.
At least no one on the Redskins has mono :)

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These 2019 Redskins remind me of the 1994 Redskins that went 3-13 and the 2009 Redskins that went 4-12....

Re: Can the Redskins Beat the Giants in Game 4?
 

[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1232356]These 2019 Redskins remind me of the 1994 Redskins that went 3-13 and the 2009 Redskins that went 4-12....[/quote]

Other than the first half of the Eagles game the Redskins have been dominated by the opponent. The team is already banged up, they have no depth, Keenum sucks and Haskins has a long,long way to go. The team might finish 2-14 the way it looks.

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This is a symbolizes of the the Redskins...

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The only thing I get out of that is that Chad Dukes is into some freaky shit and drinks crappy alcohol.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1232375]The only thing I get out of that is that Chad Dukes is into some freaky shit and drinks crappy alcohol.[/quote]

+1

That boy ain't right.

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Natty light seltzer?

Why?


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I definitely won’t be posting about that in the “let’s talk good beer” forum

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[quote=MTK;1232473]Natty light seltzer?

Why?

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Why does Natural Light make a fucking seltzer?!?!?

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1232375]The only thing I get out of that is that Chad Dukes is into some freaky shit and drinks crappy alcohol.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=mooby;1232384]+1

That boy ain't right.[/QUOTE]+1

Totally Agree!

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