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I’m watching the Redskins this season not because they are going to win 10 games. But for the first time in many years they have a talented youth movement at QB, WR and DL. I want to see how these guys mature and progress.

After a mediocre 2919 season the Redskins will use their draft picks to rebuild their OL. That’s the final piece of the puzzle. We will have a new Head Coach and a young team with some really outstanding players. The team will be ready to move to the next level.


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[quote=MTK;1228456]Never quite understood all the hand wringing over Penn, he’s been a solid pro. We lose a lot with him athletically compared to Trent but he’s still solid. Can Flowers be at least as good as Lauvao? I hope so.


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Penn can be decent just age/injury risk is always there. Im not convinced Flowers can be as good as Lauvao...that's an issue. I actually think the rookie Guard should be getting the work.

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[quote=Chico23231;1228487]Penn can be decent just age/injury risk is always there. Im not convinced Flowers can be as good as Lauvao...that's an issue. I actually think the rookie Guard should be getting the work.[/quote]

Unless Flowers is a disaster, I say give him until the Bye to develop LG skills, especially if Trent comes back. He actually has higher upside of the two, but his bad habits are deeply ingrained.

I personally preferred cutting him to save cash and put in the rookie....but since they are going with the big gamble....give it a fair shake...the guy has got the right shape. If he ever developed discipline, consistency, effort and technique, he could be a really good LG. The problem is he screws up once per quarter, and it is always big, like a sack, penalty to remove a TD, cause turnover, etc. He is the equivalent of a QB that throws picks or a RB that fumbles

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[QUOTE=skinsnut;1228500]If he ever developed discipline, consistency, effort and technique, he could be a really good LG. [/QUOTE]

Is that all he needs? Lol. So could any 300 lb man who ever lived. The guy is a complete bust. Im a Miami fan so I have every reason in the world to root for him but he is bad. Waste of a roster spot. Ill be super happy to eat crow on this one but.....

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1228504]Is that all he needs? Lol. So could any 300 lb man who ever lived. The guy is a complete bust. Im a Miami fan so I have every reason in the world to root for him but he is bad. Waste of a roster spot. Ill be super happy to eat crow on this one but.....[/QUOTE]



I think he will make enough big mistakes to bring in Martin. The team can only take so many bad sacks and holding penalties before they bring in the new kid.


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In the first game Penn and Flowers did ok. Moses showed why he gets so many offense-killing penalties. I don’t think TW will come back so I hope he is traded for a top draft pick. We will need to spend some draft picks to get the OL to an elite level. Right now they are just treading water and hoping for no injuries.


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Moses looked terrible, again. The repair of the OL will take three steps:

1. dumping high cost FA like Norman, TW etc - which allows us hiring new OL FA.

2. Resign Scherff. Probably not happening.

3. If the team is smart they can trade and gain extra draft picks for OL.

Let’s see if BA is up to the challenge..

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There is a very realistic chance we win one game (against Miami).

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I was thinking this was a 7-9 or 6-10 team. Now I don’t even think we can win more than 2-3 games. Maybe just Miami, because they are trying to lose every game. It isn’t long before the players start to give up and play to the level where they don’t look like they are tanking but not so intense that they could get hurt.

2-14.


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[quote=Warthog;1231411]I was thinking this was a 7-9 or 6-10 team. Now I don’t even think we can win more than 2-3 games. Maybe just Miami, because they are trying to lose every game. It isn’t long before the players start to give up and play to the level where they don’t look like they are tanking but not so intense that they could get hurt.

2-14.


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When I look at the roster, I don't see a bunch of players that are likely to mail it in. If that were the case, the MNF game would have been 45-3 instead of 31-15. They'll continue to compete. If they can become more consistent, they'll probably win 8-9 games. If not, it's more like 5-6.

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[QUOTE=Warthog;1231411]I was thinking this was a 7-9 or 6-10 team. Now I don’t even think we can win more than 2-3 games. Maybe just Miami, because they are trying to lose every game. It isn’t long before the players start to give up and play to the level where they don’t look like they are tanking but not so intense that they could get hurt.

2-14.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Personally I see the players still Fighting...but unfortunately I do see the Redskins going 2-14.

My opinion has nothing to do with the players not trying to win.

Just looked at the schedule, the only chances of winning I see are the Redskins games against the Dolphins and the Jets.

All of the other teams the Redskins play against this season either currently have a winning record or are at. 500, so honestly, unless the Redskins drastically improve, I don't see any wins against any winning teams.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1231428]When I look at the roster, I don't see a bunch of players that are likely to mail it in. If that were the case, the MNF game would have been 45-3 instead of 31-15. They'll continue to compete. If they can become more consistent, they'll probably win 8-9 games. If not, it's more like 5-6.[/QUOTE]We absolutely have the talent to win 7 to 9 games.

This FO and coaching staff takes a sledgehammer and beats square pegs into round holes.



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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;1228335]Yall crazy. 7 wins? We'll be lucky to win 3 games behind that O Line. We will be picking top 5 in the draft next year, bank on that.[/quote]


Notice I said AT BEST. That meant with everybody staying healthy, TW back in the lineup, and the ball/calls bouncing our way.


Realistically this team is destined for a 4-5 win season when it comes down to it. Here I'll do the rest of the schedule:


Giants - tossup
Patriots- LOL. Def a loss.
Dolphins- Our first win. 2nd if we get lucky with Giants.
49ers- Loss
Vikings - Loss
Bills - Loss
Jets- Win
Panthers - Loss
Packers - Loss
Eagles - Loss
Giants- Win
Cowboys- Loss
Browns - Loss
Bengals - Win
Falcons - Loss
Ravens - Loss


So that figures 4 or 5 wins.

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How did the Ravens end up on the schedule? They join the AFC east?

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After seeing that Mitch Trubisky completed 80% of his passes last night my prediction of 6 wins seems overly optimistic to the point of being delusional. The Dallas and Chicago games were worse than the score indicated and we probably got up 17-0 on Philadelphia because they aren't that good right now and came out rusty.

Who can this team beat? Maybe the Jets, Miami and the home game against the Giants? Maybe they pick up a surprise win somewhere if they get all the breaks.
This looks like a 2-4 win team right now.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1231465]How did the Ravens end up on the schedule? They join the AFC east?[/quote]

Looks like he added the preseason schedule to the end of his list.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1231458]Notice I said AT BEST. That meant with everybody staying healthy, TW back in the lineup, and the ball/calls bouncing our way.


Realistically this team is destined for a 4-5 win season when it comes down to it. Here I'll do the rest of the schedule:


Giants - tossup
Patriots- LOL. Def a loss.
Dolphins- Our first win. 2nd if we get lucky with Giants.
49ers- Loss
Vikings - Loss
Bills - Loss
Jets- Win
Panthers - Loss
Packers - Loss
Eagles - Loss
Giants- Win
Cowboys- Loss
Browns - Loss
Bengals - Win
Falcons - Loss
Ravens - Loss


So that figures 4 or 5 wins.[/quote]

Haskins will probably start coming Miami week so I think he'll win that game and Bills, jets as well.

4-12 bound tho

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1231467]After seeing that Mitch Trubisky completed 80% of his passes last night my prediction of 6 wins seems overly optimistic to the point of being delusional. The Dallas and Chicago games were worse than the score indicated and we probably got up 17-0 on Philadelphia because they aren't that good right now and came out rusty.

Who can this team beat? Maybe the Jets, Miami and the home game against the Giants? Maybe they pick up a surprise win somewhere if they get all the breaks.
This looks like a 2-4 win team right now.[/quote]

This team couldn't beat the Giants at home last year, don't see why it would happen this year.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1231458]Notice I said AT BEST. That meant with everybody staying healthy, TW back in the lineup, and the ball/calls bouncing our way.





Realistically this team is destined for a 4-5 win season when it comes down to it. Here I'll do the rest of the schedule:





Giants - tossup

Patriots- LOL. Def a loss.

Dolphins- Our first win. 2nd if we get lucky with Giants.

49ers- Loss

Vikings - Loss

Bills - Loss

Jets- Win

Panthers - Loss

Packers - Loss

Eagles - Loss

Giants- Win

Cowboys- Loss

Browns - Loss

Bengals - Win

Falcons - Loss

Ravens - Loss





So that figures 4 or 5 wins.[/QUOTE]



Everything that says win should say possible in front of it. Losses should say definite. I will be absolutely shocked if they win 5. Going to see the Jets game so hope its a win.
Hope its Haskins debut. At least i can say i was there.

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We’ll lose to the Giants BUT this will force Snyder to fire Gruden /Manusky on Monday.

Now O’Connell will be HC. First change is that Jay’s super-predictable play-calling will end. Second change will see Haskins come in. Manusky will be replaced which means the defense can only GO UP. My grandmother could design better defensive schemes than Greg, and she died 20 years ago.

We will see some life come back in the team as rookies are brought in to see where we will need to draft next year. Other players will play under pressure and better as they fight to stay past this season.

After Gruden is gone, we could win 2-3 games. As long as Gruden is HC we will lose every game.


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[QUOTE=Warthog;1231607]We’ll lose to the Giants BUT this will force Snyder to fire Gruden /Manusky on Monday.

Now O’Connell will be HC. First change is that Jay’s super-predictable play-calling will end. Second change will see Haskins come in. Manusky will be replaced which means the defense can only GO UP. My grandmother could design better defensive schemes than Greg, and she died 20 years ago.

We will see some life come back in the team as rookies are brought in to see where we will need to draft next year. Other players will play under pressure and better as they fight to stay past this season.

After Gruden is gone, we could win 2-3 games. As long as Gruden is HC we will lose every game.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Personally I don't see Jay Gruden being fired until the end of the season.

I would like to see O'Connell be elevated to Head Coach at the end of the season.

Also I would rather see Dwayne Haskins kept on the bench for this season and let him start fresh next season. It's obvious that the Redskins aren't going anywhere this season and there is absolutely no reason to get Dwayne Haskins injured due to the porus Offense Line.

I agree with everyone that Jay Gruden is a "dead man walking" as a Head Coach, so there is no reason for Dwayne Haskins to be wasted.

Also, I like the Redskins to try to avoid having a repeat of the mistakes made with RG3.

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[QUOTE=kct1975;1231621]Also, I like the Redskins to try to avoid having a repeat of the mistakes made with RG3. [/QUOTE]

On Czaban's show yesterday, he did a long segment on Haskins scrubbing his Instagram of all things Redskins.

I can't find anything about it in the news.

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Very very doubtful they'd fire Jay before Manusky, or fire them both. Manusky will be the fall guy in all likelihood. Jay will hang on until the season is done.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1231623]On Czaban's show yesterday, he did a long segment on Haskins scrubbing his Instagram of all things Redskins.

I can't find anything about it in the news.

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he did but he also deleted all of his pics besides one. He's clearly frustrated and has spoken out about it on Twitter, he wants to play and u cant blame him for that

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1231630]he did but he also deleted all of his pics besides one. He's clearly frustrated and has spoken out about it on Twitter, he wants to play and u cant blame him for that[/QUOTE]You can't blame him for wanting to play or being frustrated.

You can blame him for acting like a petulant child on social media.

It's completely indicative of the organizational culture.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1231631]You can't blame him for wanting to play or being frustrated.

You can blame him for acting like a petulant child on social media.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]He is 22 years old. In NFL terms that is a child.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1231632]He is 22 years old. In NFL terms that is a child.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I edited it while you were posting.

Winning teams don't have this issue from rookies who have never taken a snap.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1231633]I edited it while you were posting.

Winning teams don't have this issue from rookies who have never taken a snap.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Winning teams don't keep the same losing HC for 6 years, winning teams don't keep guaranteed injury risks on their team because of potential. Winning teams don't have their 7yr all star left tackle sit out over mystery mash.

We aren't a winning team and it starts up top. Can't expect the younguns to do better than the elders.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1231455]We absolutely have the talent to win 7 to 9 games.

This FO and coaching staff takes a sledgehammer and beats square pegs into round holes.



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FWIW I agree with you 100%!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1231634]Winning teams don't keep the same losing HC for 6 years, winning teams don't keep guaranteed injury risks on their team because of potential. Winning teams don't have their 7yr all star left tackle sit out over mystery mash.

We aren't a winning team and it starts up top. Can't expect the younguns to do better than the elders.

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They have a Losing culture in DC, and it won't change anytime soon

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1231632]He is 22 years old. In NFL terms that is a child.

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lol in [B]life[/B] terms thats a child

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[quote=Meks;1231637]lol in [B]life[/B] terms thats a child[/quote]

yep

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Like Allen said, every team has talent, you don't win games with talent.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1231640]Like Allen said, every team has talent, you don't win games with talent.[/quote]

It's coaching, they suck, the players are doing what they are told. This team never has adjustments during games so the players just go out and continue to do the same shit. It's not that hard to see. They can all say the same bs "we just have to execute better" or "we need to do a better job of coaching"

Nothing changes

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1231641][B]It's coaching[/B], they suck, the players are doing what they are told. This team never has adjustments during games so the players just go out and continue to do the same shit. It's not that hard to see. They can all say the same bs "we just have to execute better" or "we need to do a better job of coaching"

Nothing changes[/quote]

It can't be fixed under Gruden and Manusky.

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The one good example of "It's Coaching" is the 49ers from 2010 to 2011. They went from 6-10 to 13-3 without significant roster changes. They got head coach Jim Harbaugh and a new staff. Defense went from 16th to 2nd by canning Manusky and replacing him with Fangio. Offense went from 24th to 11th replacing Raye with Roman.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1231634]Winning teams don't keep the same losing HC for 6 years, winning teams don't keep guaranteed injury risks on their team because of potential. Winning teams don't have their 7yr all star left tackle sit out over mystery mash.

We aren't a winning team and it starts up top. Can't expect the younguns to do better than the elders.

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Can't disagree with anything you said.

I don't understand how Dan Snyder doesn't understand the concept of why consistently winning teams have a culture.

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I know this sounds crazy.. here goes ..jay and the whole crew gets axed and we end up with the worse record in nfl .. number one pick .. new GM and coach can’t resist Tua .. we take him and trade Haskins for a number one and reboot .. I know you guys think that’s crazy but I could happen ...😀

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Or trade the 1st overall pick for 3 x 1st.

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I'll be honest I laughed at the predictions of 3-13 or 4-12 from the media but clearly they were right