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[quote=skinsfaninok;1205194]Perfect timing as well with ATLANTA coming to town. Matt Ryan has been on fire but he has no run game and that is a great sign for us.[/quote]

can Dix learn the defense in a few days? I doubt it.

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I suspect that Nicholson will start with Dix rotating in. From what I have seen on film, one of Dix's best attributes seems to be that he takes the "last line of defense" very seriously and plays the deep field conservatively. Hopefully, this helps prevent chunk plays.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1205217]I suspect that Nicholson will start with Dix rotating in. From what I have seen on film, one of Dix's best attributes seems to be that he takes the "last line of defense" very seriously and plays the deep field conservatively. Hopefully, this helps prevent chunk plays.[/quote]

All the while getting 3 INTs in the first 7 games of the season

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1205211]can Dix learn the defense in a few days? I doubt it.[/QUOTE]


Is it really that complicated for a safety? Cover two, cover three, quarters etc. I think he should be able to contribute something right away.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1205217]I suspect that Nicholson will start with Dix rotating in. From what I have seen on film, one of Dix's best attributes seems to be that he takes the "last line of defense" very seriously and plays the deep field conservatively. Hopefully, this helps prevent chunk plays.[/quote]

Monte is apparently injured. Id like to see Ha Ha in there right away and most the time.

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Does anybody find this Monte is injured stuff a little suspicious? Maybe the cynic in me, but he never appeared on any injury reports did he? And I didn't see him go down at all during the Giants game.

Now all of a sudden he's banged up? Weird. Just say you wanted more depth in the secondary.

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[quote=MTK;1205219]Is it really that complicated for a safety? Cover two, cover three, quarters etc. I think he should be able to contribute something right away.[/quote]

I tend to agree with this line of thought. The only thing different is the verbiage and assignments that may be a bit more specific than the blanket coverages you've mentioned. I hope there is no gaffes but I wouldn't put it past the quick change and adjustment period.. But what I am sure is that his new teammates all seem like they are happy he is here and will do all they can to help him get up to speed.

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Like are they saying Monte is injured because they don't want to admit publicly that he's not quite living up to their expectations? They set pretty high expectations - Jay came out and said in camp that Monte is to the defense what Jordan Reed is to the offense because of his range.

Like it's OK to say hey yeah Monte has range and we're excited for his future but we wanted more depth. It's obvious to everyone that this move is in response to shoring up the back end now that Tate and Cooper are in the division, and it's obvious to avid football people that Monte doesn't take the best angles at this point in his career.

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[quote=Schneed10;1205226]Like are they saying Monte is injured because they don't want to admit publicly that he's not quite living up to their expectations? They set pretty high expectations - Jay came out and said in camp that Monte is to the defense what Jordan Reed is to the offense because of his range.

Like it's OK to say hey yeah Monte has range and we're excited for his future but we wanted more depth. It's obvious to everyone that this move is in response to shoring up the back end now that Tate and Cooper are in the division, and it's obvious to avid football people that Monte doesn't take the best angles at this point in his career.[/quote]

Teams and coaches have done that in the past, but, that could really be psychologically damaging to a player so i'm not sure that it would be the best tact to take. Hopefully he's just on the mend and Dix is a good safety that Monte can also learn from and gel with... I would be surprised against some of the better offensive teams if we see 3 S on the field at the same time. Our cb depth is hurting right now and I wouldnt mind some new looks in the 2ndary as far as scheme and coverage go... only thing is i dont think that Manusky is that guy, lol.

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Great point, and maybe Monte could play a hybrid LB/S role in certain situations. He's tall and speedy.

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[quote=Schneed10;1205233]Great point, and maybe Monte could play a hybrid LB/S role in certain situations. He's tall and speedy.[/quote]

considering how well we are playing the run, teams are bound to throw more and also use a lot more in way of the screen game... so we could use his "range" lol.

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So I told my daughter that the Redskins has a new player call HA,HA, Clinton Dix. So she walks down stairs and says his name but it sounded like Ha,Ha, Clit and D!cks. You should have seen the look the wife made.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1205217]I suspect that Nicholson will start with Dix rotating in. From what I have seen on film, one of Dix's best attributes seems to be that he takes the "last line of defense" very seriously and plays the deep field conservatively. Hopefully, this helps prevent chunk plays.[/quote]

I would say this is accurate. He stays back, sometimes to the defense's detriment.

I can't really put a finger on what happened to him. He was a very very good player in 2016 and has kinda gone downhill since then. From my eye test anyway.

I'm shocked PFF has him rated that highly.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1205241]So I told my daughter that the Redskins has a new player call HA,HA, Clinton Dix. So she walks down stairs and says his name but it sounded like Ha,Ha, Clit and D!cks. You should have seen the look the wife made.[/quote]

How old is your daughter?

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[quote=simbosargos75;1205260]I would say this is accurate. He stays back, sometimes to the defense's detriment.

I can't really put a finger on what happened to him. He was a very very good player in 2016 and has kinda gone downhill since then. From my eye test anyway.

I'm shocked PFF has him rated that highly.[/quote]

Clit Dicks is a much better player than Monte at this point. Plus being on a much less volatile defense with a stronger front 7 in front of him should elevate his play even more. We got better.

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[quote=Schneed10;1205224]Does anybody find this Monte is injured stuff a little suspicious? Maybe the cynic in me, but he never appeared on any injury reports did he? And I didn't see him go down at all during the Giants game.

Now all of a sudden he's banged up? Weird. Just say you wanted more depth in the secondary.[/quote]

Per Gruden today he's got a minor hip injury that required a procedure.

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[quote=Chico23231;1205263]Clit Dicks is a much better player than Monte at this point. Plus being on a much less volatile defense with a stronger front 7 in front of him should elevate his play even more. We got better.[/quote]

No doubt. I said pretty much exactly that a few pages back.

I guess my point was that he has a lot of potential to be better than he has been this season, because by my eye he was a fantastic player 2 years ago. And it's not like he's old.

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Saw today that their head coach said part of the reason the Packers were willing to trade was that they plan to be very active in free agency this coming offseason and knew they wouldn't get anything back for HaHa in 2020 as a result. This makes the trade make a lot more sense. Still wonder why they wouldn't have just resigned him. I guess I've heard that they expected him to be elite and he was just really good. I have a feeling that with the other defensive talent on this team he will be even better.

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[quote=WillH;1205282]Saw today that their head coach said part of the reason the Packers were willing to trade was that they plan to be very active in free agency this coming offseason and knew they wouldn't get anything back for HaHa in 2020 as a result. This makes the trade make a lot more sense. [B]Still wonder why they wouldn't have just resigned him.[/B] I guess I've heard that they expected him to be elite and he was just really good. I have a feeling that with the other defensive talent on this team he will be even better. [/quote]

It seems some teams don't value safeties as much as they do with other positions. Last off season is great example, there were 2 or 3 FA safeties who are considered as quality starters available and yet there weren't many teams interested in them.

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In the past few years they Packers have also let safeties Michah Hyde and Morgan Burnett get away.

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[quote=MTK;1205289]In the past few years they Packers have also let safeties Michah Hyde and Morgan Burnett get away.[/quote]

That’s probably why combover Capers got canned, not valuing safeties.

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Another reason to like this guy.


To Clinton-Dix, there’s plenty of reasons for him to be intrigued by the opportunity he now has with the Redskins.The first, an opportunity to follow in the footsteps of his favorite player: Sean Taylor. Long before Clinton-Dix would first dawn the burgundy and gold on Wednesday, his admiration for the fellow safety and Redskins legend had been well known.

In 2014, during an interview with Tyler Dunne of the Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinel, where he was asked what three people he would want to have dinner with, the former Packer named Taylor as his first, and said he didn’t even have any others.

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Solid pick up. We now have the Burgundy Boom.

On another note, is no one else disappointed that we did nothing to address our inadequate WR play? I would have loved to have picked up a WR. I could have seen Garçon coming back for a late round pick.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1205362]Solid pick up. We now have the Burgundy Boom.

On another note, is no one else disappointed that we did nothing to address our inadequate WR play? I would have loved to have picked up a WR. I could have seen Garçon coming back for a late round pick.[/quote]

Sure. Some are disappointed. Not I. The problem with the passing game is not that receivers are getting open, its that AS is not in sync with what Gruden is trying to do. Receivers are running open most of the time but AS is waiting to long, not moving off read, etc.

Nobody we were going to get in a trade was going to do much of anything to fix the passing game problems.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1205362]Solid pick up. We now have the Burgundy Boom.

On another note, is no one else disappointed that we did nothing to address our inadequate WR play? I would have loved to have picked up a WR. I could have seen Garçon coming back for a late round pick.[/quote]

Garçon is done...Doctson steady improvement the last several games, and getting back the injuried crowder and Quinn probably had the staff thinking this probably would help more than adding what was out there. Multiple reports confirmed they did explore adding at the position.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1205241]So I told my daughter that the Redskins has a new player call HA,HA, Clinton Dix. So she walks down stairs and says his name but it sounded like Ha,Ha, Clit and D!cks. You should have seen the look the wife made.[/quote]

Your daughter could have at least waited until he got burned on a TD to start making fun of his name.

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A rental for a conditional 4th is a steal for this season. The real value test for Clinton-Dix will be on his next signing.

I’m just hoping that he and DJ don’t get into a contest to see who can run back a pick and wave the ball around in one hand the longest.

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Clinton-Dix is not all that good. I would have rather had that draft pick.

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[quote=httr198020;1207042]Clinton-Dix is not all that good. I would have rather had that draft pick.[/quote]

Monte Nicholson was trash this year. Wtf....yes another Troy Apke pick please, more of that all day.

Clinton-Dix is a very solid player who we should attempt to resign.

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[quote=Chico23231;1207043]Monte Nicholson was trash this year. Wtf....yes another Troy Apke pick please, more of that all day.

Clinton-Dix is a very solid player who we should attempt to resign.[/quote]

the more he gets in tune with the system.... him and DJ? .... i'd take that all day.

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[quote=Chico23231;1207043]Monte Nicholson was trash this year. Wtf....yes another Troy Apke pick please, more of that all day.

Clinton-Dix is a very solid player who we should attempt to resign.[/quote]

Where was Clinton-Dix when the Falcons and the Bucs were passing the ball up and down the field on our ass? Since he's been on this team we've been giving up almost 400 passing yards per game. My best friend is Packer fan. He told me that this dude is overrated and never very good. He never misses a Packer game so I'm going to take his word for it on top of everything I've see prior to him coming here.

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[quote=httr198020;1207047]Where was Clinton-Dix when the Falcons and the Bucs were passing the ball up and down the field on our ass? Since he's been on this team we've been giving up almost 400 passing yards per game. My best friend is Packer fan. He told me that this dude is overrated and never very good. He never misses a Packer game so I'm going to take his word for it on top of everything I've see prior to him coming here.[/quote]

Monte Nicholson...tell me about his play.

Also Clinton I’d had a great game against the Bucs.

So I think it’s clear to everybody we upgraded

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[quote=httr198020;1207047]Where was Clinton-Dix when the Falcons and the Bucs were passing the ball up and down the field on our ass? Since he's been on this team we've been giving up almost 400 passing yards per game. My best friend is Packer fan. He told me that this dude is overrated and never very good. He never misses a Packer game so I'm going to take his word for it on top of everything I've see prior to him coming here.[/quote]

You do know he had joined the team 4 days before the Falcons game, right? And are you really complaining about the Bucs game, when the Defense held them to 3 points? You do know that the Bucs were averaging 28 points per game before Sunday's game, right?

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[quote=httr198020;1207047]Where was Clinton-Dix when the Falcons and the Bucs were passing the ball up and down the field on our ass? Since he's been on this team we've been giving up almost [B]400[/B] [B]passing[/B] yards per game. My best friend is Packer fan. He told me that this dude is overrated and never very good. He never misses a Packer game so I'm going to take his word for it on top of everything I've see prior to him coming here.[/quote]

Yep that's all on HaHa

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I think it was keim or Craig Huffman who said the te coverage was left to haha or Swearinger depending on looks....the held Howard and brate to 2 catches. Te had been a big weapon for the bucs this year.

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I agree, Clinton-Dix got 4 days to learn the defense, which means he had approx. 96 hours hours to learn the defense. 96 hours? That's plenty of time. Plus, look at how common it is for players to memorize a scheme in 4 days, why I'm sure there's one example that could be named of how easy it is to learn a scheme in 4 days. Just one example, that's all we need. And we're not talking no Jonathan Coopers either, we're talking "stud player that learned every call and had a big game on top of it."

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1207051]You do know he had joined the team 4 days before the Falcons game, right? And are you really complaining about the Bucs game, when the Defense held them to 3 points? You do know that the Bucs were averaging 28 points per game before Sunday's game, right?[/QUOTE]



Come on though man. You cannot be happy with us being gashed for over 500 fucking yards. They missed two fg’s, and turned it over twice down there. It easily could have resulted in more than 3 points. Way more. Cant rely on dipshit quarterbacks, missed fg’s, and balls getting punched out going forward and you know it.

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i always disliked the guy because of his stupid name (wrong i know). Then i heard we signed him and the name bothered me a lot less lol.

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[quote=httr198020;1207047]Where was Clinton-Dix when the Falcons and the Bucs were passing the ball up and down the field on our ass? Since he's been on this team we've been giving up almost 400 passing yards per game. [B]My best friend is Packer fan. He told me that this dude is overrated and never very good.[/B] He never misses a Packer game so I'm going to take his word for it on top of everything I've see prior to him coming here.[/quote]

People who watch football for a living would disagree with your friend.

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I watched EVERY snap HAHA took against the high powered Rams Offense and he was very good in coverage , plays the MOF and doesn't get beat deep. IDK where that came from but its false.