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"I want you to use my words against me. If there's a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said, 'Let's let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination,' " he said in 2016 shortly after the death of Justice Antonin Scalia. "And you could use my words against me and you'd be absolutely right."

Graham repeated the sentiment in October 2018 in an interview with The Atlantic's editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg. "If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump's term, and the primary process has started, we'll wait till the next election."

[URL="https://www.npr.org/sections/death-of-ruth-bader-ginsburg/2020/09/19/914774433/use-my-words-against-me-lindsey-graham-s-shifting-position-on-court-vacancies"]'Use My Words Against Me': Lindsey Graham's Shifting Position On Court Vacancies[/URL]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1259637]"I want you to use my words against me. If there's a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said, 'Let's let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination,' " he said in 2016 shortly after the death of Justice Antonin Scalia. "And you could use my words against me and you'd be absolutely right."



Graham repeated the sentiment in October 2018 in an interview with The Atlantic's editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg. "If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump's term, and the primary process has started, we'll wait till the next election."



[URL="https://www.npr.org/sections/death-of-ruth-bader-ginsburg/2020/09/19/914774433/use-my-words-against-me-lindsey-graham-s-shifting-position-on-court-vacancies"]'Use My Words Against Me': Lindsey Graham's Shifting Position On Court Vacancies[/URL][/QUOTE]I think Trump will nominate someone this week, but regardless of the statements over the weekend the senate will not move on it till after the election.

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RBG: "The President is elected for 4 years not 3 years, so the powers that he has in year 3 continue into year 4. Maybe some members of the Senate will wake up & appreciate that that's how it should be."

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[quote=Chico23231;1259689]RBG: "The President is elected for 4 years not 3 years, so the powers that he has in year 3 continue into year 4. Maybe some members of the Senate will wake up & appreciate that that's how it should be."[/quote]

As we know the rules changed in 2016, so are you ok with the goalposts getting moved yet again?

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Chicos quote and your quote just prove the point that goalposts in politcal dialogue are just illusions. Each party is going to do what it thinks is politically expedient at the time they are in the situation.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1259654]I think Trump will nominate someone this week, but regardless of the statements over the weekend the senate will not move on it till after the election.

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LOL, not a chance in hell .Moscow Mitch will jam it through.

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[quote=Chico23231;1259689]RBG: "The President is elected for 4 years not 3 years, so the powers that he has in year 3 continue into year 4. Maybe some members of the Senate will wake up & appreciate that that's how it should be."[/quote]

Was that also true when Obama nominated a candidate in March of his finale year?

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[quote=Giantone;1259705]LOL, not a chance in hell .Moscow Mitch will jam it through.[/quote]
As George Washington said to Alexander Hamilton

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Just a month ago, mitt Romney was a Democrat hero and was flooded with love

Today, Democrats are calling him a snake, enemy of the people, racist, etc.

Simply amazing

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1259758]Just a month ago, mitt Romney was a Democrat hero and was flooded with love



Today, Democrats are calling him a snake, enemy of the people, racist, etc.



Simply amazing[/QUOTE]

A month ago Romney was the step child of the Republican party and Trump campaign today not so much

Simply Amazing

The hypocrisy of both sides around all this is

SIMPLY AMAZING

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1259769]A month ago Romney was the step child of the Republican party and Trump campaign today not so much

Simply Amazing

The hypocrisy of both sides around all this is

SIMPLY AMAZING

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Ehhh, not the same. I don’t see the same fawning or criticism when it’s visa versa. Also sitting president of your party, I think expect more criticism from within than stating a position on an issue.

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I imagine conservatives view controlling the SC for 2 reasons.

1. abolish abortion
2. run to Courts to stop anything a Dem president or legislature passes.

Re abortion .. do conservatives really think abolishing abortion is a winning strategy going forward? Their hardcore religious base may finally get their wish .. but I just dont see many new voters or independents joining a party that puts religion above politics and the Constitution.

re SC to block Dem laws ... if this happens repeatedly and it becomes apparent that the conservative SC is not applying the law but now just a political branch serving just conservatives ... wont that be the end of the SC? Why wouldnt Dems just add 43 new justices and make the SC the theatre of the absurd? Wouldnt the deference to the SC be greatly diminished in the eyes of Americans?

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1259783]I imagine conservatives view controlling the SC for 2 reasons.



1. abolish abortion

2. run to Courts to stop anything a Dem president or legislature passes.



Re abortion .. do conservatives really think abolishing abortion is a winning strategy going forward? Their hardcore religious base may finally get their wish .. but I just dont see many new voters or independents joining a party that puts religion above politics and the Constitution.



re SC to block Dem laws ... if this happens repeatedly and it becomes apparent that the conservative SC is not applying the law but now just a political branch serving just conservatives ... wont that be the end of the SC? Why wouldnt Dems just add 43 new justices and make the SC the theatre of the absurd? Wouldnt the deference to the SC be greatly diminished in the eyes of Americans?[/QUOTE]Not touching #1. But #2 has been the Democratic party since Roosevelt.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1259786]Not touching #1. But #2 has been the Democratic party since Roosevelt.

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1. I'll touch it. Abortion is never getting overturned. Liberals will get to keep on murdering babies. This is liberal fearmongering playbook; play 1. Even before calling everyone a racist.

2. This was the biggest fucking projection post in Warpath history.

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The RBG hero worship is cultish. It’s fucking weird.

Funny how the media has ignored some of her less “woke” opinions over the last couple years. Very hypocritical, but pathetic as well

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1259788]1. I'll touch it. Abortion is never getting overturned. Liberals will get to keep on murdering babies. This is liberal fearmongering playbook; play 1. Even before calling everyone a racist.

2. This was the biggest fucking projection post in Warpath history.[/quote]

lol ... good talk fellas.

The only thing missing is a conservative screaming that I cant take part in honest discussions without resorting to name calling.

Theres still time. I have faith in you guys.

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lol let's talk about weird cults

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[quote=SunnySide;1259793]lol ... good talk fellas.

The only thing missing is a conservative screaming that I cant take part in honest discussions without resorting to name calling.

Theres still time. I have faith in you guys.[/quote]

Chico, that's up to you. Unless BuffaloBob makes a comeback.

That's my 1 post on the subject.

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[quote=SunnySide;1259783]I imagine conservatives view controlling the SC for 2 reasons.

1. abolish abortion
2. run to Courts to stop anything a Dem president or legislature passes.

Re abortion .. do conservatives really think abolishing abortion is a winning strategy going forward? Their hardcore religious base may finally get their wish .. but I just dont see many new voters or independents joining a party that puts religion above politics and the Constitution.

re SC to block Dem laws ... if this happens repeatedly and it becomes apparent that the conservative SC is not applying the law but now just a political branch serving just conservatives ... wont that be the end of the SC? Why wouldnt Dems just add 43 new justices and make the SC the theatre of the absurd? Wouldnt the deference to the SC be greatly diminished in the eyes of Americans?[/quote]

Too me, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, due process, etc is where most see the most threats by folks who want the government to step in and regulate/restrict both. Liberal lobby groups have thrown a lot of money at getting rid of religious issues...you can’t argue that, simply fact...across many states.

You guys hate the freedom part of civil liberties and want big brother.

A lot of people/media go 2nd amendment, Abortion, etc, but I don’t.

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[quote=MTK;1259795]lol let's talk about weird cults

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Yeah, Obama worship is a very real thing as well.

But a Supreme Court justice?

Strange...weird. Cultish AF

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[quote=Chico23231;1259797]Too me, [B]freedom of religion, freedom of speech[/B], due process, etc is where most see the most threats by folks who want the government to step in and regulate/restrict both. Liberal lobby groups have thrown a lot of money at getting rid of religious issues...you can’t argue that, simply fact...across many states.

You guys hate the freedom part of civil liberties and want big brother.

A lot of people/media go 2nd amendment, Abortion, etc, but I don’t.[/quote]

With the freedom of religion - im somewhat naive to that bc im not religious. With Hobby Lobby not wanting to be forced to cover birth control, I agreed with Hobby Lobby on that and I could see where they were coming from. With a valedictorian of a public school wanting to thank god or spend a min or so of a 10 min speech on god, im fine with that.

I am against school sponsored prayer, I am for allowing students gather and do religious type things after hours on school property.
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The U.S. Supreme Court banned school-sponsored prayer in public schools in a 1962 decision, saying that it violated the First Amendment. But students are allowed to meet and pray on school grounds as long as they do so privately and don't try to force others to do the same.

The group included William McLeod, a 9-year-old Utah boy who was forced to remove the cross of ashes from his forehead on Ash Wednesday. "I just don't want anyone to feel like that," McLeod said.

It said there has been an increasing number of reports of schools promoting prayer in ways that cross the line — such as an Alabama high school where a student football team was baptized at school.

Joseph Kennedy, a Washington state high school football coach who lost his job after he refused to stop praying on the field after games.
[url]https://www.npr.org/2020/01/16/796864399/exclusive-trump-to-reinforce-protections-for-prayer-in-schools[/url]
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I do not think the kid on Ash Wednesday should have been forced to remove the ask cross from his forehead.

The coach holding prayer sessions after football games ... Im torn on that one bc i could see students feel like they need to participate even though they are not religious. Others will say its after the game and voluntary .. but if the coach felt so strong about it here that he wouldnt stop and lost his job for it ... is it really a stretch to imagine he would view or bench a player who didnt take part or who said he doesnt believe in god?

The religious thing always gets me ... bc to me what is the big fucking deal? as long as my kid isnt subject to a morning prayer, I dont care.

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When was the last time you went to church?

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Weekly I attend to church.

If u only knew of the mountain of sin I’ve committed...gotta whittle it away daily.

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[url]https://www.dailywire.com/news/newsweek-forced-to-issue-major-retraction-after-it-smears-amy-coney-barrett-claims-she-belongs-to-sect-that-inspired-the-handmaids-tale[/url]

Newsweek makes retraction on fake news story about Amy Barrett.

It’s not even announced and media is already spreading lies about potential candidates. That’s why they’ve earned the title “Enemy of the People “

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It is going to be ugly for whoever Trump nominates. I feel very sorry for them in advance. With a woman most of the stories(lies) will likely be racially geared or hyper anti christian like the handmaid one.

Anything to create delay and diversion..

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[quote=MTK;1259795]lol let's talk about weird cults

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Wish there was a like button. I would click it 45 times.

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Can people please stop replying to Matty's post? Don't need to see that huge image 20 times. Thanks in advance!

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It's gonna be amazing when Trump nominates a woman and the whole women's rights movement pauses for a couple months while liberal media shreds that poor woman a new asshole thru election day. Of course everyone knows that only applied to liberal women anyways. Conservatives of any race, sex, etc., don't get the same treatment as liberals. But liberals have the most amazing ability in the world to pat themselves on the back as the party of tolerance. It really is quite impressive.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1259822]It's gonna be amazing when Trump nominates a woman and the whole women's rights movement pauses for a couple months while liberal media shreds that poor woman a new asshole thru election day. Of course everyone knows that only applied to liberal women anyways. Conservatives of any race, sex, etc., don't get the same treatment as liberals. But liberals have the most amazing ability in the world to pat themselves on the back as the party of tolerance. It really is quite impressive.[/quote]

She will be treated as a traitor to her gender, instead of acknowledging that people of the same gender (race, sexual orientation, religion) can have different and intelligent opinions. The Democratic establishment will break into a million bickering parties if that were to become accepted as true among the rank and file of the party.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1259821]Can people please stop replying to Matty's post? Don't need to see that huge image 20 times. Thanks in advance![/quote]

You know they won't/can't. It's the childish side that exists that thinks it's ok, but if you put a Biden coat on those, oh how quickly we would hear how we were insensitive, or cruel, or mocking and disrespectful of the people.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1259824]She will be treated as a traitor to her gender, instead of acknowledging that people of the same gender (race, sexual orientation, religion) can have different and intelligent opinions. The Democratic establishment will break into a million bickering parties if that were to become accepted as true among the rank and file of the party.[/quote]

The democratic party is an evil party. But their koolaid is stronger than 25 years of Redskins/WFT koolaid combined. They control the media and education. And its been like that for a long ass time. Can't believe there are any of us conservatives left. But the blinders are on. Proven just with the media alone. Besides Fox News (who also has a bunch of fake ass conservatives I have no respect for), liberals have literally every other channel. But somehow every other channel compared to 1 is equal. I mean it's actually impressive. And they're still obsessed with Fox. And anything they report is biased. But all the other channels are just Honest Abe's.

Note - Shout out to Mooby. We disagree on a lot but we can have civil conversations as well.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1259788]1. I'll touch it. Abortion is never getting overturned. Liberals will get to keep on murdering babies. This is liberal fearmongering playbook; play 1. Even before calling everyone a racist.

2. This was the biggest fucking projection post in Warpath history.[/quote]

I'll also touch it. Conservatives guns' aren't getting taken away. You can still snuggle with your AR-15 at night while nutjob kids shoot up schools once they open back up again.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1259826]The democratic party is an evil party. But their koolaid is stronger than 25 years of Redskins/WFT koolaid combined. They control the media and education. And its been like that for a long ass time. Can't believe there are any of us conservatives left. But the blinders are on. Proven just with the media alone. Besides Fox News (who also has a bunch of fake ass conservatives I have no respect for), liberals have literally every other channel. But somehow every other channel compared to 1 is equal. I mean it's actually impressive. And they're still obsessed with Fox. And anything they report is biased. But all the other channels are just Honest Abe's.

[B]Note - Shout out to Mooby. We disagree on a lot but we can have civil conversations as well[/B].[/quote]

I'm having a shitty morning, apologies if I'm coming across too angry. Shoutout to you calling out Fox News.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1259825]You know they won't/can't. It's the childish side that exists that thinks it's ok, but if you put a Biden coat on those, oh how quickly we would hear how we were insensitive, or cruel, or mocking and disrespectful of the people.[/quote]

Oh please, we have a sitting President that openly mocks and calls people names daily. Plenty of childishness on both sides.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1259844]Oh please, we have a sitting President that openly mocks and calls people names daily. Plenty of childishness on both sides.[/QUOTE]I agree nationally but in this forum, imo, it seems to be much much more prevalent from the more liberal crew here. Particularly when it comes to demeaning and questioning intelligence and calling people cultists.

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We need to be honest, if Dems controlled the senate in 2016, they would have rammed thru the nomination. Biden, Schumer, Tim Kaine, etc all stated this publicly

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1259847]I agree nationally but in this forum, imo, it seems to be much much more prevalent from the more liberal crew here. Particularly when it comes to demeaning and questioning intelligence and calling people cultists.

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Listen, mock away. If there are pics of fools at a Biden rally that deserve mocking I'm all for it. There are ridiculous people on both sides of the fence. For example sdskinsfan2001 calling the left baby killers.

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[quote=Chico23231;1259848]We need to be honest, if Dems controlled the senate in 2016, they would have rammed thru the nomination. Biden, Schumer, Tim Kaine, etc all stated this publicly[/quote]

I'd rather focus on what actually did happen. Obama getting stonewalled on his rightful selection and now Moscow Mitch acting like this time around it's somehow different.

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Vetting Barrett to see if she will follow the law and not apply her own standards is the very basis of vetting a SC nominee. Given Barrett's background and past associations, a big part of her vetting is if she will follow precedent of Roe v Wade. When they question her on whether she will follow the law of the land, thats not attacking her, thats questioning whether she will be able to put her religious beliefs aside and apply the law.

Appears she has only been on the Appellate bench for 3 years. Professor before that with little to no prior experience being an actual trial attorney. As a trial attorney who does jury trials and appeals, I strongly prefer going before a judge who once practiced law themselves. Who knew what it was like to be in the trenches, to go before a judge who had a bad morning and carried that into the courtroom, or a dishonest difficult opposing counsel.

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“Life begins at conception,” she told Notre Dame Magazine, who also described Barrett’s view on Roe v. Wade as "creating through judicial fiat a framework of abortion on demand.”
For her part, Barrett is a practicing Roman Catholic and mother of seven. She is well-known throughout conservative circles for putting her religious convictions at the forefront of her work and identity. “Her religious convictions are pro-life, and she lives those convictions,” said U.S. district Judge Patrick J. Schiltz, one of her mentors.
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Post the headline from your article. Refinery29 is a trash fucking site who posted the fake new handsmaid tale article from Newsweek before they retracted it.

This is the headline: This Is Amy Coney Barrett, The Potential RBG Replacement Who Hates Your Uterus

Full of bias and weak language peddling assumptions, not based in fact


If we aren’t smart enough to see what’s going on here, I can’t help ya

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[quote=Chico23231;1259860]Post the headline from your article. Refinery29 is a trash fucking site who posted the fake new handsmaid tale article from Newsweek before they retracted it.

This is the headline: This Is Amy Coney Barrett, The Potential RBG Replacement Who Hates Your Uterus

Full of bias and weak language peddling assumptions, not based in fact


If we aren’t smart enough to see what’s going on here, I can’t help ya[/quote]

LOL, chico it's funny when you bitch about "what's going on here" but then you do the exact same thing posting lies about Biden. You're as shitty as trump chico.