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metalskins 03-21-2018 12:05 PM

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I hate it when this team starts off in a hole every year. It seems in the past three or four years (maybe even longer), it takes the Redskins about two or three games to figure out they need to play some ball and stop playing scared. Hopefully Alex will be a great influence on them this year.

skinsfaninok 03-21-2018 01:08 PM

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u wouldn't think it but 0-1 is a huge deal in today's NFL

MTK 03-21-2018 02:07 PM

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Half the league starts out 0-1...

0-1 is only a problem if it leads to 0-2 or worse

skinsfaninok 03-21-2018 02:21 PM

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[quote=MTK;1191350]Half the league starts out 0-1...

0-1 is only a problem if it leads to 0-2 or worse[/quote]

for us it has always been an issue as of late

sdskinsfan2001 03-21-2018 02:46 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1191351]for us it has always been an issue as of late[/quote]

Easier to go 10-6, than 10-5. Starting in a hole EVERY season is not OK.

MTK 03-21-2018 02:51 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1191351]for us it has always been an issue as of late[/QUOTE]



So are plenty of other weeks

skinsfaninok 03-21-2018 03:11 PM

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[quote=MTK;1191356]So are plenty of other weeks[/quote]

lol true

CRedskinsRule 03-21-2018 03:22 PM

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Pat Kirwan on Sirius XM is not happy with the catch revision:

[QUOTE]Al Riveron

Verified account

@alriveron

After much deliberation & input from coaches, players, @NFLLegends, & club executives, the @NFL Competition Committee will recommend the following language simplifying the catch rule at the Annual Meeting next week.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY0-EqFVQAAKBRY.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I agree with him, the 3rd point is so vague as to encourage varying interpretations and confusion.

They should have stopped at number 2. (He also doesn't like the term control, because it leads back to the bobble question)

FrenchSkin 03-21-2018 03:50 PM

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1191364]Pat Kirwan on Sirius XM is not happy with the catch revision:



I agree with him, the 3rd point is so vague as to encourage varying interpretations and confusion.

They should have stopped at number 2. (He also doesn't like the term control, because it leads back to the bobble question)[/QUOTE]The 3rd point is simply a time element rephrased to get rid of the word "time".

But I think getting rid of the "surviving the ground" part is a really good thing.

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Meks 03-22-2018 11:10 AM

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fuckin catch shit is a circus. The biggest stage of all proved the ineptness in which this league and its "officials" operate. Scam.

Buffalo Bob 03-22-2018 01:09 PM

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[quote=MTK;1191290]Kirk has played well against Philly in the past but we all know he’s a slow starter[/quote]

Isn't Coach Gruden the slow starter, isn't he 0-4 in openers for the Redskins?

MTK 03-22-2018 01:25 PM

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Kirk usually takes a few games to settle down is all I was saying

skinsfaninok 03-22-2018 01:44 PM

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[quote=MTK;1191417]Kirk usually takes a few games to settle down is all I was saying[/quote]

yeah but now u watch, he will be on fire week 1 and win lol

Schneed10 03-22-2018 01:50 PM

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[quote=MTK;1191417]Kirk usually takes a few games to settle down is all I was saying[/quote]

This is absolutely true, he has shown a distinct tendency to make spaz throws and spaz decisions early in the season and in crunch moments late in the season.

I don't think he settles himself down real well. Early in the season you have all that build up, it takes a cool customer to chill out and make good throws. And then when playoff pressure ramps up - spaz city (Giants, ahem).

I don't think he's a big game guy. At least he has to prove that he is. Maybe he will.

Now keep in mind Philly probably won't have Wentz. But the point stands about Kirk being a first game spaz. He is what he is until he proves otherwise.

Defensewins 03-27-2018 03:57 PM

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Of course the NFL had keep a part of the catch that keep creating controversy and protects the offense. 1 & 2 are all that is needed. #3 is stupid.
Go back to the old rule 1 & 2 only.


[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000923342/article/nfl-teams-unanimously-approve-simplified-catch-rule]NFL teams unanimously approve simplified catch rule - NFL.com[/url]

FrenchSkin 03-27-2018 05:52 PM

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[quote=Defensewins;1191712]Of course the NFL had keep a part of the catch that keep creating controversy and protects the offense. 1 & 2 are all that is needed. #3 is stupid.
Go back to the old rule 1 & 2 only.


[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000923342/article/nfl-teams-unanimously-approve-simplified-catch-rule]NFL teams unanimously approve simplified catch rule - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

I think it's about formulation.

IMHNNESO (FYI, this stands for: In My Humble Non-Native-English-Speaker Opinion) once you have the concept of "control of the ball", you must define a time element.

Because how would you precisely define controlling the ball other than having the ball NOT moving... for a given period of time ?

So the final part simply is a way to phrase that time element without the word "time", so it looks less subjective...

All there's to remember is that they got rid of the "surviving the ground" part, which created so much controversy.

I think it might take a few weeks before the rule is consistently applied the same way, but I feel like it's a step in the direction of closing the gap between the rule and how people think it should be.

MTK 03-27-2018 07:03 PM

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Watching ESPN I can’t help but think what’s up with this sneakers with a suit look?

I don’t understand going through the trouble of putting on a nice suit only to wear sneakers. Just sloppy.

Defensewins 03-27-2018 07:11 PM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1191725]I think it's about formulation.

IMHNNESO (FYI, this stands for: In My Humble Non-Native-English-Speaker Opinion) once you have the concept of "control of the ball", you must define a time element.

Because how would you precisely define controlling the ball other than having the ball NOT moving... for a given period of time ?

So the final part simply is a way to phrase that time element without the word "time", so it looks less subjective...

All there's to remember is that they got rid of the "surviving the ground" part, which created so much controversy.


I think it might take a few weeks before the rule is consistently applied the same way, but I feel like it's a step in the direction of closing the gap between the rule and how people think it should be.[/quote]

However the old rule is ok on the sideline, when the receiver catches the ball near the out of bounds, catches the ball, gets two feet down and gets pushed out of bounds or his momentum forces him out of bounds. That is still ok. No need to make a third move. Why? Because it helps the offense.
How about the new rule for tackling. Really bad.
They have never and will never throw a flag for a ball carrier or offensive player that lowers their head and initiates contact. This only get applied defensive players.
[url=http://www.oleantimesherald.com/sports/national/player-lowering-head-to-inflict-contact-now-subject-to-/article_7c475111-d828-5673-af28-4ef012bf7ede.html]Player lowering head to inflict contact now subject to 15-yard penalty and possible ejection | National | oleantimesherald.com[/url]

FrenchSkin 03-28-2018 02:16 AM

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[quote=Defensewins;1191727]However the old rule is ok on the sideline, when the receiver catches the ball near the out of bounds, catches the ball, gets two feet down and gets pushed out of bounds or his momentum forces him out of bounds. That is still ok. No need to make a third move. [B]Why? Because it helps the offense. [/B]
How about the new rule for tackling. Really bad.
They have never and will never throw a flag for a ball carrier or offensive player that lowers their head and initiates contact. This only get applied defensive players.
[url=http://www.oleantimesherald.com/sports/national/player-lowering-head-to-inflict-contact-now-subject-to-/article_7c475111-d828-5673-af28-4ef012bf7ede.html]Player lowering head to inflict contact now subject to 15-yard penalty and possible ejection | National | oleantimesherald.com[/url][/quote]

Overall I do think the new rule is meant to call more catches, so yeah, it will help the offense a bit.

skinsfan69 03-28-2018 09:34 AM

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Pretty much on every tackle a defender has to lower his head. This is just another example of the NFL owners not being able to get out of their own way. I guess what they're saying is a defender has to stay tall to make a tackle. It's so stupid and going to confuse the refs even more than they're already confused.

skinsfaninok 03-28-2018 09:38 AM

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[quote=MTK;1191726]Watching ESPN I can’t help but think what’s up with this sneakers with a suit look?

I don’t understand going through the trouble of putting on a nice suit only to wear sneakers. Just sloppy.[/quote]

Yeah I have also wondered how they can get away with that look, but I guess ESPN is just very laid back now a days. I couldn't wear Nikes with a suit

Giantone 03-28-2018 09:42 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1191732]Pretty much on every tackle a defender has to lower his head. This is just another example of the NFL owners not being able to get out of their own way. I guess what they're saying is a defender has to stay tall to make a tackle. It's so stupid and going to confuse the refs even more than they're already confused.[/quote]

...it's is safer for a tackler to go in with his head up than to lead with his head .The rule will keep both players safe .

FrenchSkin 03-28-2018 10:07 AM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1191735]...it's is safer for a tackler to go in with his head up than to lead with his head .The rule will keep both players safe .[/QUOTE]Agreed.
Good tackling technique is bend your knees to go down but keep your upper body straight up.
Doesn't the NFL have a youth coaching program called "Heads up football"?

Ryan Shazier injured his spine because he lowered his head. I like this rule. I don't like watching guys get concussed, football is way richer than that.

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CRedskinsRule 03-28-2018 11:11 AM

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The real interesting part of lowering the head rule will be the first time it's called on a qb running a sneak into the line for 1 yard.

skinsfaninok 03-28-2018 11:18 AM

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Heads up football doesn't mean "NO HITTING" like many fans are saying, yes some plays are hard to call while live action is going on and defenders are in a tough spot but the whole "The nfl wants to take hitting away" is just false.

skinsfan69 03-28-2018 11:26 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1191746]The real interesting part of lowering the head rule will be the first time it's called on a qb running a sneak into the line for 1 yard.[/quote]

Not only with a QB sneak but Rb's as well. They lower their heads all the time. I can see how this is going to turn out. There will be numerous ejections over routine plays. The refs are already too flag happy as it is.

skinsfaninok 03-28-2018 01:55 PM

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We can Just Stop With The Sugar Coding and Get the Flags Out!! This Obviously Not Football ANYMORE! THE GAME WE LOVE IS GETTING DESTROYED EVERYDAY Because off what? Whatever Your Answer Is. This Is My Reply “THIS IS WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR!” PERIOD!!! @Djswearinger

Killing ratings as well

MTK 03-28-2018 02:07 PM

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Sugar coding?

MTK 03-28-2018 02:09 PM

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I think the new helmet rule is just PR about making the game safer more than anything, they’ll only flag the most egregious ones.

skinsfaninok 03-28-2018 02:11 PM

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[quote=MTK;1191788]Sugar coding?[/quote]

That SC education lol JK

FrenchSkin 03-28-2018 02:13 PM

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[quote=MTK;1191790]I think the new helmet rule is just PR about making the game safer more than anything, they’ll only flag the most egregious ones.[/quote]

Agreed.
I also think in "Lowering the head [B]to[/B] initiate contact with the helmet”, the key word is "to". Basically the rule is targeting the [U]intention[/U] to hit with the helmet.
The way I get it, it's not forbidden to lower your head, contact with the helmet [U]can occur if it's incidental[/U], what's forbidden is to lower the head in order to hit with the helmet.

MTK 10-13-2018 11:09 AM

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[URL="https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2018/10/09/trump-nfl-ratings-protests-what-data-really-show-anthem-kneeling-viewership/996531002/"]In NFL ratings, good football trumps politics[/URL]

Very interesting read

Jayroc24 11-17-2018 04:40 AM

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Hey guys, does anyone know of a way to watch these games at home other than direct TV?
We got real tired of their billing practices and needed a break. We live in Atlanta and have been pretty lucky with getting to watch the Skins, but looking ahead at the TV maps we are going to be glued to the Redzone channel, which for the Skins means not a lot of air time...
Thanks in advance for any input!

MTK 11-17-2018 10:43 AM

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[QUOTE=Jayroc24;1207403]Hey guys, does anyone know of a way to watch these games at home other than direct TV?

We got real tired of their billing practices and needed a break. We live in Atlanta and have been pretty lucky with getting to watch the Skins, but looking ahead at the TV maps we are going to be glued to the Redzone channel, which for the Skins means not a lot of air time...

Thanks in advance for any input![/QUOTE]



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