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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1161302]No chance we win 5 games next year unless kirk is gone

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What do you think Looking at our schedule and giving your best "way to early" guess? Obviously the schedule means nothing because so much can change between now and than. Than week to week. But i am curious where you are at...

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I asked this in another thread, but nobody answered it yet... can anyone name one area that got better this year than last?

Please convince me that our Front Office is making the right choices to improve this team.

I really don't feel any area improved, while a few (d-line, Kicking, our back 4) have regressed.

With the other 3 teams in our division showing definite improvement over last year & us just muddling along, tell me why you're so rosy on our future.

I'd really like to feel that we're about to spring forward, but I just don't see it.

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[quote=Bangee7;1161305]I asked this in another thread, but nobody answered it yet... can anyone name one area that got better this year than last?

Please convince me that our Front Office is making the right choices to improve this team.

I really don't feel any area improved, while a few (d-line, Kicking, our back 4) have regressed.

With the other 3 teams in our division showing definite improvement over last year & us just muddling along, tell me why you're so rosy on our future.

I'd really like to feel that we're about to spring forward, but I just don't see it.[/quote]

It depends how much you want to pin on coaching vs how much you want to put on McCloughan. On the defensive side, I saw us basically trot out all the same players but with Norman added. We can definitely put that on McCloughan - he didn't do enough. But Barry had basically the same talent from 2015 plus a very good CB, and yet the defense got so much worse. Our third down conversion rate was among the worst in league history.

I pin that on Barry.

McCloughan needs to come up with more defensive help, but Barry added no value this year. We could make improvements with a change at DC and be back in the playoffs. McCloughan can't rest on that, but Barry is the guy that deserves the most criticism.

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[quote=Bangee7;1161305]I asked this in another thread, but nobody answered it yet... can anyone name one area that got better this year than last?

Please convince me that our Front Office is making the right choices to improve this team.

I really don't feel any area improved, while a few (d-line, Kicking, our back 4) have regressed.

With the other 3 teams in our division showing definite improvement over last year & us just muddling along, tell me why you're so rosy on our future.

I'd really like to feel that we're about to spring forward, but I just don't see it.[/quote]


Individual players got better, Crowder, CT , Moses , Foster , Kirk , Baker..

Overall we were about the same as a team...


ALSO how was Philly that much better? They were 7-9 both seasons... and have ZERO talent on offense...

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[quote=punch it in;1161303]What do you think Looking at our schedule and giving your best "way to early" guess? Obviously the schedule means nothing because so much can change between now and than. Than week to week. But i am curious where you are at...[/quote]

With this roster? I'm saying 8-8 but I believe we will upgrade on def and finish 10-6 next yr.

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I come back to my original point - Scot promised a tough, physical team, and after two offseasons to build toward that vision, the team is still butter-soft on the interior of both lines. Failing to convert on the first 3rd down yesterday with only half a hard to go set the tone, and is a microcosm of the toughness that this team lacks. On defense, we are the magic elixir to make slumping players look in pro-bowl form. Cam Newton had perhaps his best game of the year against us. Same with Carson Palmer. The Giants couldn't run the ball all year, but had no trouble yesterday.

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[quote=SouperMeister;1161310]I come back to my original point - Scot promised a tough, physical team, and after two offseasons to build toward that vision, the team is still butter-soft on the interior of both lines. Failing to convert on the first 3rd down yesterday with only half a hard to go set the tone, and is a microcosm of the toughness that this team lacks. On defense, we are the magic elixir to make slumping players look in pro-bowl form. Cam Newton had perhaps his best game of the year against us. Same with Carson Palmer. The Giants couldn't run the ball all year, but had no trouble yesterday.[/quote]

If we dont spend some cash on DL this summer I'll agree but this season was a HUGE eye opener to everyone. Like I said week 1 Williams gashed us all night and it never got better.

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[quote=Bangee7;1161305]I asked this in another thread, but nobody answered it yet... can anyone name one area that got better this year than last?

Please convince me that our Front Office is making the right choices to improve this team.

I really don't feel any area improved, while a few (d-line, Kicking, our back 4) have regressed.

With the other 3 teams in our division showing definite improvement over last year & us just muddling along, tell me why you're so rosy on our future.

I'd really like to feel that we're about to spring forward, but I just don't see it.[/quote]

-Overall offense yards/game: 17th in 2015, 3rd in 2016.

Passing yards/game: 11th in 2015, 2nd in 2016.

Rushing yards/game: 20th in 2015, 21st in 2016.


-Overall defense (yards allowed/game): 28th both in 2015 and 2016.

Passing D: 25th both in 2015 and 2016.

Rushing D: 26th in 2015, 24th in 2016.


Considering how little defense was addressed last offseason, it's safe to say this team improved tremendously in the areas that were addressed.

If this offseason is as efficient for the defensive side of the ball as last year's was for the offense... Watch out.

Not saying it will happen, but saying we didn't improve is delusional.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1161324]-Overall offense yards/game: 17th in 2015, 3rd in 2016.

Passing yards/game: 11th in 2015, 2nd in 2016.

Rushing yards/game: 20th in 2015, 21st in 2016.


-Overall defense (yards allowed/game): 28th both in 2015 and 2016.

Passing D: 25th both in 2015 and 2016.

Rushing D: 26th in 2015, 24th in 2016.


Considering how little defense was addressed last offseason, it's safe to say this team improved tremendously in the areas that were addressed.

If this offseason is as efficient for the defensive side of the ball as last year's was for the offense... Watch out.

Not saying it will happen, but saying we didn't improve is delusional.[/quote]

I'd say adding a 75M cornerback should have made more of a difference on defense. If you add a $75M corner, and he plays well (which he did), and you don't see any improvement in your defensive rankings while allowing the most 3rd down conversions in the NFL, then the defensive coaching staff is doing something wrong.

But yeah McCloughan needs to do more. I think he probably gets that.

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[quote=Schneed10;1161326]I'd say adding a 75M cornerback should have made more of a difference on defense. If you add a $75M corner, and he plays well (which he did), and you don't see any improvement in your defensive rankings while allowing the most 3rd down conversions in the NFL, [B]then the defensive coaching staff is doing something wrong.
[/B]
But yeah McCloughan needs to do more. I think he probably gets that.[/quote]

Agreed.
Just saying we're heading in the right direction.
And while I've finally joined the "we need a new DC" club, I think, as bad as they looked, this D is just a few pieces away, regardless of coaching.

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A few pieces away, but expensive pieces. That's my ONLY reservation with McCloughan: if you're going with the best player available strategy in the draft, and I agree that's the best strategy for the draft, then you have to be willing to fill needs via other means. My only concern with him is he's too reluctant to be aggressive in free agency when needed.

We are in such dire need of a safety and an interior defensive lineman. He has to come up with both this offseason or it's dereliction of duty.

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[quote=Schneed10;1161332]A few pieces away, but expensive pieces. That's my ONLY reservation with McCloughan: if you're going with the best player available strategy in the draft, and I agree that's the best strategy for the draft, then you have to be willing to fill needs via other means. My only concern with him is he's too reluctant to be aggressive in free agency when needed.

[B]We are in such dire need of a safety and an interior defensive lineman. He has to come up with both this offseason or it's dereliction of duty.[/B][/quote]

Exactly! With the cap space available I do hope he'll be able to see what we all see...

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1161334]Exactly! With the cap space available I do hope he'll be able to see what we all see...[/quote]

Draft D-lineman

And sign a free agent safety.... maybe:

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[quote=Schneed10;1161306]It depends how much you want to pin on coaching vs how much you want to put on McCloughan. On the defensive side, I saw us basically trot out all the same players but with Norman added. We can definitely put that on McCloughan - he didn't do enough. But Barry had basically the same talent from 2015 plus a very good CB, and yet the defense got so much worse. Our third down conversion rate was among the worst in league history.

I pin that on Barry.

McCloughan needs to come up with more defensive help, but Barry added no value this year. We could make improvements with a change at DC and be back in the playoffs. McCloughan can't rest on that, but Barry is the guy that deserves the most criticism.[/quote]

I think McCloughan was hoping for a healthy Junior Galette, who could've been a difference maker. And of course, Cravens not getting hurt like he did. With those guys in addition to adding Norman, McCloughan probably felt the defense couldn't be any worse than it was a year ago. But then, Galette misses the entire season (again), Cravens misses time, and Norman is about the only upgrade of talent. It was one of those things where I think McCloughan kind of gambled on hoping he could do just enough for the defense this season so that the team had a legit shot at the playoffs again this year, and he would look into solidifying the defense next year.

Unfortunately, it didn't work out like that. Partly blame injuries to key guys, but I put most of the blame on Barry. I think he's gone (I hope so), but I think McCloughan has his work cut out for him on the defense this coming season.

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[quote=metalskins;1161354]I think McCloughan was hoping for a healthy Junior Galette, who could've been a difference maker. And of course, Cravens not getting hurt like he did. With those guys in addition to adding Norman, McCloughan probably felt the defense couldn't be any worse than it was a year ago. But then, Galette misses the entire season (again), Cravens misses time, and Norman is about the only upgrade of talent. It was one of those things where I think McCloughan kind of gambled on hoping he could do just enough for the defense this season so that the team had a legit shot at the playoffs again this year, and he would look into solidifying the defense next year.

Unfortunately, it didn't work out like that. Partly blame injuries to key guys, but I put most of the blame on Barry. I think he's gone (I hope so), but I think McCloughan has his work cut out for him on the defense this coming season.[/quote]

Pretty much how I see it, too.

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Just heard Gruden on the radio... he said... " We've had two first round picks since I've been here, one is a guard and the other was hurt and didn't play"..ouch. I guess he doesn't think much of drafting guards real high... lol.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1161361]Just heard Gruden on the radio... he said... " We've had two first round picks since I've been here, one is a guard and the other was hurt and didn't play"..ouch. I guess he doesn't think much of drafting guards real high... lol.[/quote]

That quote jumped out at me too - I watched him in the press conference yesterday when he said this. You know how sometimes you hear a snippet on the radio, or read a quote in an article, and without the context it can seem like the media's making a big deal out of nothing.

With this one I thought it was a clear shot at McCloughan. I think they probably have a good enough working relationship but it's clear Jay would rather see need enter the equation a bit on the 1st rounders. Makes sense, the coach's time horizon is always shorter than the GM's.

Like I've said before I just hope McCloughan does the right thing and gets aggressive with a couple of these big needs.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1161361]Just heard Gruden on the radio... he said... " We've had two first round picks since I've been here, one is a guard and the other was hurt and didn't play"..ouch. I guess he doesn't think much of drafting guards real high... lol.[/quote]

I kind of got the same vibe from that interview as well. Of course, I'm sure Jay knows that a lot of your success comes from building a strong front line, on both offense and defense. And Brandon Scherff is a Pro Bowler this year, so he can't be too disappointed with that pick. But I can say, in past interviews, Jay has been very disappointed with the progress that Josh has made with his injuries. It's almost as if you hear a little underlining tone in Jay's voice that he's questioning Josh Doctson's intestinal fortitude and will to want to compete at this level. It's kind of like your boss announcing that you called in sick as if he doesn't believe you're really that sick enough to miss work.

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[quote=Schneed10;1161332]A few pieces away, but expensive pieces. That's my ONLY reservation with McCloughan: if you're going with the best player available strategy in the draft, and I agree that's the best strategy for the draft, then you have to be willing to fill needs via other means. My only concern with him is he's too reluctant to be aggressive in free agency when needed.

We are in such dire need of a safety and an interior defensive lineman. He has to come up with both this offseason or it's dereliction of duty.[/quote]

I agree. He needs to be shopping on Rodeo Drive this time around. I'd like him to come home with Calais Campbell and Eric Berry in his shopping bag.

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[quote=Schneed10;1161375]That quote jumped out at me too - I watched him in the press conference yesterday when he said this. You know how sometimes you hear a snippet on the radio, or read a quote in an article, and without the context it can seem like the media's making a big deal out of nothing.

With this one I thought it was a clear shot at McCloughan. I think they probably have a good enough working relationship but it's clear Jay would rather see need enter the equation a bit on the 1st rounders. Makes sense, the coach's time horizon is always shorter than the GM's.

Like I've said before [B]I just hope McCloughan does the right thing and gets aggressive with a couple of these big needs.[/B][/quote]

This. We need some more playmakers on d. Last year he just kinda sat back and hoped something good fell into his lap. This year he needs to fill some lesser needs in FA and leave the long term needs (like playmaker) for the draft. If he signed a couple d-linemen in FA I wouldn't be upset. And there's always trades that could be had.

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[quote=mooby;1161417]This. We need some more playmakers on d. Last year he just kinda sat back and hoped something good fell into his lap. [B]This year he needs to fill some lesser needs in FA and leave the long term needs (like playmaker) for the draft.[/B] If he signed a couple d-linemen in FA I wouldn't be upset. And there's always trades that could be had.[/quote]

I disagree with you based on the fact that there will be some top-notch playmakers available in FA this year when we have the cap room to sign a couple of them. We should take advantage of this convergence which I think is hardly a coincidence. I think Scot planned for it.

Players who fit our needs, such as Calais Campbell, Kawann Short, and Eric Barry should be available. You can't count on the draft to produce NFL playmakers of that caliber.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1161361]Just heard Gruden on the radio... he said... " We've had two first round picks since I've been here, one is a guard and the other was hurt and didn't play"..ouch. I guess he doesn't think much of drafting guards real high... lol.[/quote]

They thought Sheriff was a tackle. He is the only guard drafted in the top 5 in the last 10 years. And only 2 other guards were top 10 picks in the last 10 years.

If Josh Doctson had been healthy he was not going to start. The slow rebuilding plan will never work. They need good drafts, [B]plus signing good free agent signings.[/B]

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1161421]I disagree with you based on the fact that there will be some top-notch playmakers available in FA this year when we have the cap room to sign a couple of them. We should take advantage of this convergence which I think is hardly a coincidence. I think Scot planned for it.

Players who fit our needs, such as Calais Campbell, Kawann Short, and Eric Barry should be available. You can't count on the draft to produce NFL playmakers of that caliber.[/quote]

I disagree on all 3, we have been down that road before and we should know better. Get your playmakers through the draft, not free agency.

Campbell - I'm not paying big money on a long term deal to anyone over 30 in free agency. Sure he's good, the question is for how long, and is he consistent? Just because he dominated us doesn't mean he still dominates every week.

Short - I'm just hesitant to pay any FA d-linemen huge money after you-know-who. Is he the right scheme fit? That should be the first question after our last big money contract for a d-lineman. And you know if Carolina doesn't pay him someone will. If they asked him to fill the exact same role that he did in Carolina it might work out, but I don't think we're that kind of team. We're more of the "we're paying you huge money, you should be dominant at any role we ask of you" style.

Eric Berry - love the player, hate the money. He will get paid wherever he goes, and since our (current) scheme says our safeties need to be able to play both free and strong does that mean he's a good fit? I wouldn't mind switching to a more traditional safety alignment but right now we don't have the personnel or the scheme for it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1161361]Just heard Gruden on the radio... he said... " We've had two first round picks since I've been here, one is a guard and the other was hurt and didn't play"..ouch. I guess he doesn't think much of drafting guards real high... lol.[/quote]

he's basically saying, shit takes time to build a team

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[quote=mooby;1161431]I disagree on all 3, we have been down that road before and we should know better. Get your playmakers through the draft, not free agency.

Campbell - I'm not paying big money on a long term deal to anyone over 30 in free agency. Sure he's good, the question is for how long, and is he consistent? Just because he dominated us doesn't mean he still dominates every week.

Short - I'm just hesitant to pay any FA d-linemen huge money after you-know-who. Is he the right scheme fit? That should be the first question after our last big money contract for a d-lineman. And you know if Carolina doesn't pay him someone will. If they asked him to fill the exact same role that he did in Carolina it might work out, but I don't think we're that kind of team. We're more of the "we're paying you huge money, you should be dominant at any role we ask of you" style.

Eric Berry - love the player, hate the money. He will get paid wherever he goes, and since our (current) scheme says our safeties need to be able to play both free and strong does that mean he's a good fit? [B]I wouldn't mind switching to a more traditional safety alignment but right now we don't have the personnel or the scheme for it[/B].[/quote]

Doesn't the fact that Cravens will play safety mean that we'll switch back to a traditional safety scheme?

I'm sure Cravens will be great at SS but don't think he'll have the speed to play FS.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1161476]Doesn't the fact that Cravens will play safety mean that we'll switch back to a traditional safety scheme?

I'm sure Cravens will be great at SS but don't think he'll have the speed to play FS.[/quote]

You place a lot of faith in the defensive coaching staff's ability to adapt and adjust their scheme.

If we turn over the DC like we should, then anything's on the table, including Cravens being taken out of the plans at safety (I don't think they should do that, just saying that with a new defensive coach anything goes on the table).

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I like how two years ago when Scot came on board everyone was glad we were going to build through the draft. Now people want to sign all the big name free agents again. Scot hit a home run with Norman, but I hope he doesn't make signing big dollar free agent contracts the norm

He's finding us some good players each year in the draft, give them time to develop. Preston Smith has shown an ability to take over games, next year could be a breakout year for him. Cravens looks to be a beast if he can stay healthy. All the experts including Cooley love Kendall Fuller. And other young guys are contributing like Dunbar, Spaight, Ioaniddis, Lanier, Everett. Let's have patience and stay the course

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[QUOTE=SirLK26;1161497]I like how two years ago when Scot came on board everyone was glad we were going to build through the draft. Now people want to sign all the big name free agents again. Scot hit a home run with Norman, but I hope he doesn't make signing big dollar free agent contracts the norm



He's finding us some good players each year in the draft, give them time to develop. Preston Smith has shown an ability to take over games, next year could be a breakout year for him. Cravens looks to be a beast if he can stay healthy. All the experts including Cooley love Kendall Fuller. And other young guys are contributing like Dunbar, Spaight, Ioaniddis, Lanier, Everett. Let's have patience and stay the course[/QUOTE]



I have never see Smith show the ability to take over a play let alone a game. Lol.
Just because they are playing does not mean they are contributing. Fuller looked absolutely lost.
Listen any of the guys you mentioned can certainly turn it around or become, at the very least, solid roll players.
None of them get me too excited now though. Cravens, but he has to stay healthy.
We will see. Hope they all turn into solid contributors.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1161480]You place a lot of faith in the defensive coaching staff's ability to adapt and adjust their scheme.

If we turn over the DC like we should, then anything's on the table, including Cravens being taken out of the plans at safety (I don't think they should do that, just saying that with a new defensive coach anything goes on the table).[/QUOTE]
I know you know a lot about this game, could you explain how complicated it would be to fix this "both safeties need to play both positions" issue?

With what I know, I don't see anything too hard to overcome with a whole offseason to work on it... But maybe I am missing something.

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[quote=punch it in;1161499]I have never see Smith show the ability to take over a play let alone a game. Lol.
Just because they are playing does not mean they are contributing. Fuller looked absolutely lost.
Listen any of the guys you mentioned can certainly turn it around or become, at the very least, solid roll players.
None of them get me too excited now though. Cravens, but he has to stay healthy.
We will see. Hope they all turn into solid contributors.[/quote]

You are talking about a rookie coming back from microfracture surgery and a second year player that hit a sophomore slump. If both show no progress next year, then make a change.

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[quote=punch it in;1161499]I have never see Smith show the ability to take over a play let alone a game. Lol.
Just because they are playing does not mean they are contributing. Fuller looked absolutely lost.
Listen any of the guys you mentioned can certainly turn it around or become, at the very least, solid roll players.
None of them get me too excited now though. Cravens, but he has to stay healthy.
We will see. Hope they all turn into solid contributors.[/quote]

Minnesota, he had 2 sacks and a pick. Against Chicago he had 2 sacks(one of which was taken away thanks to a penalty on Foster), was the guy who pressured Barkley on two of those ints, and also blocked a field goal. Week 16 against the Eagles last year he had 3 sacks

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1161500]I know you know a lot about this game, could you explain how complicated it would be to fix this "both safeties need to play both positions" issue?

With what I know, I don't see anything too hard to overcome with a whole offseason to work on it... But maybe I am missing something.

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Rewind back to November 2007 and convince Sean Taylor not to stay in his Miami home that night? I know that's not your question but man do I miss his ability to play single-high and still cover sideline to sideline in the deep middle. You didn't even need a second safety, he became an eighth box player.

Sigh. What could have been. Still makes me emotional.

So if I have Cravens as one of my safeties I think it affects me on a game-by-game basis as I develop my gameplans. For example, if I'm facing the Eagles with their dreadful WRs this year, I think I don't bother flexing the responsibilities of the safeties. I'd tell Cravens, you look at the formation, and you line up on the strong side of the formation. If a guy goes in motion and switches the strong side of the formation to the other side of the field, then you motion with him to the other hash mark.

I tell my free safety, whoever it is, to do the opposite. On the snap, he retreats to single high while Cravens takes up a zone coverage responsibility around the seam at the 10-12 yard mark. If it's a run then he's positioned to come up and hit, if it's a pass then he's not asked to run too deep.

Since their WRs aren't that threatening, you put the onus on the corners to win, and you let the single high free safety just be responsible for saving the day and keeping the guy out of the end zone.

Right now, Barry seems to love having everyone be responsible for a side of the field. I hate it, because offenses put players in motion to move them into position for mismatches. I'd instead teach the secondary how to move as the formation shifts. Cravens goes to the strong side, Norman follows the best WR, the FS goes opposite Cravens. These players aren't dumb, it should be entirely possible to teach them this.

Now, against a team with very good WRs like the Giants with Beckham and Shepherd, I'm feeling pretty vulnerable with Cravens back there no matter what I do. So I'm probably blitzing the hell out of the Giants and hoping for the best, including sending Cravens on occasion. If my FS was Sean Taylor, I'd feel pretty good about it.

Sigh.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1161499]I have never see Smith show the ability to take over a play let alone a game. Lol.
Just because they are playing does not mean they are contributing. Fuller looked absolutely lost.
Listen any of the guys you mentioned can certainly turn it around or become, at the very least, solid roll players.
None of them get me too excited now though. Cravens, but he has to stay healthy.
We will see. Hope they all turn into solid contributors.[/QUOTE]
Again Psmith is good against bad lines, when he plays a solid Tackle he gets owned. He had maybe 3 games where he made a few plays that's it. Murphy was better than him this year

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PS can you tell I think a rangey FS is a very high priority in the offseason?

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1161513]PS can you tell I think a rangey FS is a very high priority in the offseason?[/QUOTE]
Haha yes and I completely agree with you on that!

Thanks a lot for your post!

The way I see it, switching back to a traditionnal safety scheme has some upsides and downsides, but there's nothing that complicated in the transition itself. Amirite?

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[QUOTE=SirLK26;1161497]I like how two years ago when Scot came on board everyone was glad we were going to build through the draft. Now people want to sign all the big name free agents again. Scot hit a home run with Norman, but I hope he doesn't make signing big dollar free agent contracts the norm



He's finding us some good players each year in the draft, give them time to develop. Preston Smith has shown an ability to take over games, next year could be a breakout year for him. Cravens looks to be a beast if he can stay healthy. All the experts including Cooley love Kendall Fuller. And other young guys are contributing like Dunbar, Spaight, Ioaniddis, Lanier, Everett. Let's have patience and stay the course[/QUOTE]


Most fans have no patience at all, they want results yesterday and unless a player is an all pro as a rookie get him outta here.

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[quote=Schneed10;1161513]PS can you tell I think a rangey FS is a very high priority in the offseason?[/quote]

I hope that's the case, we haven't had a decent safety since S.T. passed. Him and Laron were made for each other, they complimented each other perfectly.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1161502]You are talking about a rookie coming back from microfracture surgery and a second year player that hit a sophomore slump. If both show no progress next year, then make a change.[/QUOTE]



Like I said, any of them can make a turn around. Rite now though none of them are really part of the reason I am excited about the future.

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[QUOTE=SirLK26;1161507]Minnesota, he had 2 sacks and a pick. Against Chicago he had 2 sacks(one of which was taken away thanks to a penalty on Foster), was the guy who pressured Barkley on two of those ints, and also blocked a field goal. Week 16 against the Eagles last year he had 3 sacks[/QUOTE]



I was obviously being a bit sarcastic about my single game comment but I don't think a whole lot of people are pinning their future hopes of this defense to Smith. I never said get rid of him. Not yet anyway. He had some terribly invisible games this year though.

Re: In Scot we trust?
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10;1161513]PS can you tell I think a rangey FS is a very high priority in the offseason?[/QUOTE]



Only thing I value more is a big time ILB. Mason has shown enough to warrant a starting role but I would love a stud to pair up with him. I just think that is the epicenter of any good defense. FS is an extremely close second. Than grab a slab of beef like a Snacks Harrison somewhere to obliterate the run.