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[QUOTE=SCRedskinsFan;1130125]And some of us think that Lavao and Lichtensteiger going down had a negative effect on the running game. If I remember correctly, the timing of their injuries matched the decline of run production. And Long and Rib were not the quality replacement we needed. Do we really think our coaches "forgot" how to prepare for a running attack?[/QUOTE]


This

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If we win tomorrow, we'll be the only NFC east team for the second time in the last 3 weeks.

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1130125]And some of us think that Lavao and Lichtensteiger going down had a negative effect on the running game. If I remember correctly, the timing of their injuries matched the decline of run production. And Long and Rib were not the quality replacement we needed. Do we really think our coaches "forgot" how to prepare for a running attack?[/quote]Lol, the notion that the loss of Lauvao and an under performing injured Kory are the reasons behind historically bad run game production is funny to me.

To be clear injuries have hurt the OL. But to excuse the coaches accountability for this pathetic run game is giving this staff another of many passes some fans are willing to give.

I would say: decline in attempts, predictablitiy, poor rotation of personnel and general lack of emphasis are a bigger problem then the injuries.

I think this run game as presently constituted is woefully underperforming due mainly to coaching issues.

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Lauvao hurt us in the run game big time. Kory L had been terrible, mcrib has been worse. Not having a blocking TE has hurt us as well

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1130090]One guy from Each Division - not really saying good or bad, just a comparison sample. It's amazing the lack of good qb's overall.
Nick Foles questionable, but hard division to choose from
Eli Manning
Jay Cutler
Matt Ryan - hard to choose an average qb in that division
Blake Bortles
Alex Smith
Joe Flacco
Ryan Tannehill


I didn't look stats for them. My main point is that KC's issue has been and still is wild swings. I think this team would win with a qb who constantly performed in the average + range, but right now we have a Jekyll and Hyde guy.[/quote]

I compared the QBR’s of the QB’s you suggested to those of Kirk Cousins. For ease of comparison, I grouped their game by game performances in four tiers: Tier 1 = 70.0 or Above, Tier 2 = 50.0 to 69.9, Tier 3 = 30.0 to 49.9, Tier 4 = 29.9 to 0.0. This should give some idea of each QB’s consistency. Not all QB’s have played the same number of games.

You said that Kirk is wildly inconsistent. I said that he is no more inconsistent than any other good but not elite QB. I think these numbers prove my point, if QBR means anything.

You also said that it might be too much to ask for to have a Redskins QB with a 60.0 QBR. Kirk is already at 58.7 YTD and improving, IMO. I don't see any reason why he can't go over 60.0 by the end of the season.

[U]Kirk Cousins[/U]

T1 = 4, T2 = 2, T3 = 3, T4 = 1. YTD QBR = 58.7. High QBR = 83.4. Low QBR = 23.2

Kirk’s trends most closely resemble Eli’s and Cutler's except that their highs are higher. There were at least 7 dropped passes in his lowest QPR game vs. NE.

[U]Eli Manning[/U]

T1 = 4, T2 = 2, T3 = 3, T4 = 1. YTD QBR = 68.6. High QBR = 94.1. Low QBR = 23.0

[U]Jay Cutler[/U]

T1 = 4, T2 = 1, T3 = 2 T4 = 1. YTD QBR = 65.4. High QBR = 90.2. Low QBR = 29.6

[U]Matt Ryan[/U]

T1 = 2, T2 = 4, T3 = 4 T4 = 0. YTD QBR = 63.5. High QBR = 93.0. Low QBR = 36.0

Steadiest QB of the group. No very bad games but also fewer very good games than Eli, Jay, and Kirk.

[U]Blake Bortles[/U]

T1 = 3, T2 = 1, T3 = 4 T4 = 2. YTD QBR = 54.1. High QBR = 89.8. Low QBR = 11.9

Probably the least consistent of the group.

[U]Alex Smith[/U]

T1 = 3, T2 = 2, T3 = 3 T4 = 2. YTD QBR = 54.0. High QBR = 97.9. Low QBR = 7.4

On the surface, Alex looks to be thoroughly average but he’s had a lot of swings in his QPR. He’s not very consistent.

[U]Joe Flacco[/U]

T1 = 1, T2 = 4, T3 = 1 T4 = 4. YTD QBR = 40.9. High QBR = 75.4. Low QBR = 8.6

Poor Joe. Terrible season ending with a knee injury. Didn’t get much help.

[U]Ryan Tannehill[/U]

T1 = 1, T2 = 3, T3 = 1 T4 = 5. YTD QBR = 33.3. High QBR = 94.2. Low QBR = 9.7

Ryan is just a terrible pro QB.

[U]Nick Foles[/U]

T1 = 1, T2 = 2, T3 = 2 T4 = 4. YTD QBR = 33.0. High QBR = 81.9. Low QBR = 1.5

Nick can’t be as bad as Tannehill, can he?

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1130133]I compared the QBR’s of the QB’s you suggested to those of Kirk Cousins. For ease of comparison, I grouped their game by game performances in four tiers: Tier 1 = 70.0 or Above, Tier 2 = 50.0 to 69.9, Tier 3 = 30.0 to 49.9, Tier 4 = 29.9 to 0.0. This should give some idea of each QB’s consistency. Not all QB’s have played the same number of games.

You said that Kirk is wildly inconsistent. I said that he is no more inconsistent than any other good but not elite QB. I think these numbers prove my point, if QBR means anything.

You also said that it might be too much to ask for to have a Redskins QB with a 60.0 QBR. Kirk is already at 58.7 YTD and improving, IMO. I don't see any reason why he can't go over 60.0 by the end of the season.

[U]Kirk Cousins[/U]

T1 = 4, T2 = 2, T3 = 3, T4 = 1. YTD QBR = 58.7. High QBR = 83.4. Low QBR = 23.2

Kirk’s trends most closely resemble Eli’s and Cutler's except that their highs are higher. There were at least 7 dropped passes in his lowest QPR game vs. NE.

[U]Eli Manning[/U]

T1 = 4, T2 = 2, T3 = 3, T4 = 1. YTD QBR = 68.6. High QBR = 94.1. Low QBR = 23.0

[U]Jay Cutler[/U]

T1 = 4, T2 = 1, T3 = 2 T4 = 1. YTD QBR = 65.4. High QBR = 90.2. Low QBR = 29.6

[U]Matt Ryan[/U]

T1 = 2, T2 = 4, T3 = 4 T4 = 0. YTD QBR = 63.5. High QBR = 93.0. Low QBR = 36.0

Steadiest QB of the group. No very bad games but also fewer very good games than Eli, Jay, and Kirk.

[U]Blake Bortles[/U]

T1 = 3, T2 = 1, T3 = 4 T4 = 2. YTD QBR = 54.1. High QBR = 89.8. Low QBR = 11.9

Probably the least consistent of the group.

[U]Alex Smith[/U]

T1 = 3, T2 = 2, T3 = 3 T4 = 2. YTD QBR = 54.0. High QBR = 97.9. Low QBR = 7.4

On the surface, Alex looks to be thoroughly average but he’s had a lot of swings in his QPR. He’s not very consistent.

[U]Joe Flacco[/U]

T1 = 1, T2 = 4, T3 = 1 T4 = 4. YTD QBR = 40.9. High QBR = 75.4. Low QBR = 8.6

Poor Joe. Terrible season ending with a knee injury. Didn’t get much help.

[U]Ryan Tannehill[/U]

T1 = 1, T2 = 3, T3 = 1 T4 = 5. YTD QBR = 33.3. High QBR = 94.2. Low QBR = 9.7

Ryan is just a terrible pro QB.

[U]Nick Foles[/U]

T1 = 1, T2 = 2, T3 = 2 T4 = 4. YTD QBR = 33.0. High QBR = 81.9. Low QBR = 1.5

Nick can’t be as bad as Tannehill, can he?[/QUOTE]
Good stuff. Thanks [emoji106]

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1130132]Lauvao hurt us in the run game big time. Kory L had been terrible, mcrib has been worse. Not having a blocking TE has hurt us as well[/QUOTE]


Yup, Yes, and Fo Sho
All of these things contribute much more than the fact that our coaching staff has not done its job?!?
Throw in the fact that Mudfoot and Butterfingers are underperforming.

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I am just so tired of the Giants making our team look like clowns. It seems like when we lose to the Giants, we don't just lose, we look hapless and any bit of progress we've made as a team just disappears. Worst part is, the NYG aren't that good of a football team this season either, but their coaching is elite and it means they are usually fundamentally sound and don't make the mental errors our team is known for.

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[QUOTE=NoCalHail;1130146]I am just so tired of the Giants making our team look like clowns. It seems like when we lose to the Giants, we don't just lose, we look hapless and any bit of progress we've made as a team just disappears. Worst part is, the NYG aren't that good of a football team this season either, but their coaching is elite and it means they are usually fundamentally sound and don't make the mental errors our team is known for.[/QUOTE]


Apparently you have not seen several Giants games this year when they were clearly in the running for the most fundamentally unsound team of all time. Mental errors were a flowing in epic proportions.

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[quote=punch it in;1130148]Apparently you have not seen several Giants games this year when they were clearly in the running for the most fundamentally unsound team of all time. Mental errors were a flowing in epic proportions.[/quote]

Oh to the contrary, I have seen them, and yes I agree they are not a good team and often themselves look hapless. I probably didn't explain in my statement enough that it seems like in these kind of situations as in the kind coming up Sunday, I can almost guarantee their heads will be screwed on right. They have a knack for coming up big in these kinds of situations despite looking overall mediocre at other times.

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[QUOTE=NoCalHail;1130149]Oh to the contrary, I have seen them, and yes I agree they are not a good team and often themselves look hapless. I probably didn't explain in my statement enough that it seems like in these kind of situations as in the kind coming up Sunday, I can almost guarantee their heads will be screwed on right. They have a knack for coming up big in these kinds of situations despite looking overall mediocre at other times.[/QUOTE]


I hear you. Its just funny to hear that about the giants after all their piss poor clock mgmt and dumb ass mistakes this year. Hey we are due to beat them. Lets hope tomorrow is the day!

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I'm heading out to Fed Ex tomorrow. Really hate going over there but F it. Free tickets in the club section and I'm going to try and have a good time. Last game I went to I got some tickets to pre season...a stale ass hamburger, weak ass fries and a warm Bud Light, which I hate anyway. $30. That was a few years ago and I swore I'd never go back.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1130153]I'm heading out to Fed Ex tomorrow. Really hate going over there but F it. Free tickets in the club section and I'm going to try and have a good time. Last game I went to I got some tickets to pre season...a stale ass hamburger, weak ass fries and a warm Bud Light, which I hate anyway. $30. That was a few years ago and I swore I'd never go back.[/QUOTE]


Damn man....bring good beer and good food and fill your ass up in the lot. Lol.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1130153]I'm heading out to Fed Ex tomorrow. Really hate going over there but F it. Free tickets in the club section and I'm going to try and have a good time. Last game I went to I got some tickets to pre season...a stale ass hamburger, weak ass fries and a warm Bud Light, which I hate anyway. $30. That was a few years ago and I swore I'd never go back.[/quote]

Obviously...you do NOT know what your doing!
You should be drinking enough that your not hungry. It will only cost you about $130 in crapply assed warm beer......

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[quote=skinsfan69;1130153]I'm heading out to Fed Ex tomorrow. Really hate going over there but F it. Free tickets in the club section and I'm going to try and have a good time. Last game I went to I got some tickets to pre season...a stale ass hamburger, weak ass fries and a warm Bud Light, which I hate anyway. $30. That was a few years ago and I swore I'd never go back.[/quote]

Lol...dude free club tickets? Yeah try and have a good time.

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[quote=Chico23231;1130157]Lol...dude free club tickets? Yeah try and have a good time.[/quote]

The club section has very nice amenities, as I recall, but most of the business people there feel that it would be gauche to cheer for the team. That is, during the short time that they are actually in their seats watching the game.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1130159]The club section has very nice amenities, as I recall, but most of the business people there feel that it would be gauche to cheer for the team. That is, during the short time that they are actually in their seats watching the game.[/QUOTE]


Section 454 is where its at anyway....

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1130159]The club section has very nice amenities, as I recall, but most of the business people there feel that it would be gauche to cheer for the team. That is, during the short time that they are actually in their seats watching the game.[/quote]

Yeah I've sat club...it's really nice

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[quote=Chico23231;1130157]Lol...dude free club tickets? Yeah try and have a good time.[/quote]

I can go pretty much anytime I want for free through work and never ever go. That's how much I hate going over to Raljon. Plus I have to drive my gf and two idiot friends of mine who will start drinking when they wake up.

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[quote=Hog1;1130156]Obviously...you do NOT know what your doing!
You should be drinking enough that your not hungry. It will only cost you about $130 in crapply assed warm beer......[/quote]

I'm too old for that shit and hate being hungover.

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I have a feeling it's going to be more of the same against NY... Eli will pick us apart, Beckham is going to abuse our corners, no pass rush, won't be able to run...

Giants 31 Skins 21

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I'll be heading to a bar/restaurant in Queens tomorrow before work... I will be surrounded by nothing but NYG fans so I'll be watching the game in a hostile environment..... it should be a few other Redskins fans there besides me....I just hope that we can pick up the W.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1130153]I'm heading out to Fed Ex tomorrow. Really hate going over there but F it. Free tickets in the club section and I'm going to try and have a good time. Last game I went to I got some tickets to pre season...a stale ass hamburger, weak ass fries and a warm Bud Light, which I hate anyway. $30. That was a few years ago and I swore I'd never go back.[/quote]

FedEx is one of the worst stadium experiences I have ever had. Ironically many of the bottom in my anecdotal experience have been NFL experiences. Get there early today tailgate with and make some mean ass sausage egg (I would say shrimp and grits but you strike me as a boxed grit kind of guy and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy) and cheese sandwiches on the grill before going in and have some burgers or chili ready to queue up on the grill when the game is over while you wait to leave the parking lot.

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Looking out the window and seeing the rain means a sloppy ass mess on that field at Fed Ex,rain is known as the "great equalizer" in football. I think it's going to be a close game maybe even OT,remember it's a divisional game and something weird always happens in those games.

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We haven't beaten the Giants in forever, and they always seem to have our number. So I won't predict a score, but I am not expecting a win from the Skins.

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Giants are gonna be without 2 starters on the Oline today...Joe Barry wake the fuck up and get some pressure on Eli

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[quote=skinsfan69;1130178]I can go pretty much anytime I want for free through work and never ever go. That's how much I hate going over to Raljon. Plus I have to drive my gf and two idiot friends of mine who will start drinking when they wake up.[/quote]

This post made me literrally laugh out loud because it sounds like a great time..dude live it the fuck up today and just go off. The skins are dependent on u having a great day today...it means a w or an l.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1130178]I can go pretty much anytime I want for free through work and never ever go. That's how much I hate going over to Raljon. Plus I have to drive my gf and two idiot friends of mine who will start drinking when they wake up.[/quote]

Stop being a pussy and go have fun. :cheeky:

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Talk about first world problems, waaaah I have free tickets to an NFL game in November with first place on the line

:laughing2

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1130190]FedEx is one of the worst stadium experiences I have ever had. Ironically many of the bottom in my anecdotal experience have been NFL experiences. Get there early today tailgate with and make some mean ass sausage egg (I would say shrimp and grits but you strike me as a [B]boxed grit kind of guy[/B] and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy) and cheese sandwiches on the grill before going in and have some burgers or chili ready to queue up on the grill when the game is over while you wait to leave the parking lot.[/quote]

lol harsh

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[quote=MTK;1130208]Talk about first world problems, waaaah I have free tickets to an NFL game in November with first place on the line

:laughing2[/quote]

LOL ... Life is rough.

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[quote=MTK;1130209]lol harsh[/quote]

Just realized that you changed your name.