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[quote=Chico23231;1115631]Seriously...its most def dude. Just a normal day at the beach drinking henny and droping bows on the locals. What a bunch of trash[/quote]

[url=http://thebiglead.com/2015/06/20/video-saints-linebacker-junior-galette-strikes-woman-with-belt-during-beach-melee/]Video: Saints Linebacker Junior Galette Strikes Woman with Belt During Beach Melee | The Big Lead[/url]

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I was surprised by this signing but I'll say this.....
Hes a Redskin now and has huge potential.
He had 22 sacks in the last two seasons.
Right now I dont care about his past, I care about his future.
If Preston develops nicely we're going to have a damn good pass rush real soon.

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The Washington Redskins started their homework before the New Orleans Saints even released Junior Galette. Dozens of interviews later, including one with Galette himself, convinced them he was a risk worth accepting, Redskins general manager Scot McCloughan said.

"We did our investigation," McCloughan said. "We were thorough, thorough, thorough. We went to the league office and other players [and coaches] in the league. This guy, we feel very comfortable bringing him on board. Very comfortable.

"I can tell you, when he left my room, the guy was crying, the guy was sweating. He was so excited to be a Redskin. That's passion. That's what I'm looking for: competitiveness, toughness. He has to walk the line and he knows that. If he doesn't, then he's gone."

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13365869/washington-redskins-did-thorough-check-junior-galette-gm-scot-mccloughan-says]Washington Redskins did thorough check on Junior Galette, GM Scot McCloughan says[/url]

1 - i like that Scot started the background check process before galette was even released. thats some proactive, football-consumes-him type mentality from our GM and I love that.

2 - i love that Scot could connect deep with a player. galette calling us a "properly functioning" organization is odd to hear but im really impressed with Scot.

3 - stunting the growth of 2 2nd rounders in Murphy and Smith is a consideration but TC hasnt even really started yet and injuries can make a lot of "whose starting" decisions. low risk, decent reward situation.

i dont think this guy will be a beast or really play more than 50% of the snaps. i could see him as a specific package type player - 3rd downs and passing plays.

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[quote=over the mountain;1115677]

1 - i like that Scot started the background check process before galette was even released. thats some proactive, football-consumes-him type mentality from our GM and I love that.

[B]It's encouraging to hear about that.[/B]

2 - i love that Scot could connect deep with a player. galette calling us a "properly functioning" organization is odd to hear but im really impressed with Scot.

[B]Some eight balls act contrite in a "come to Jesus" meeting and than go right back to doing what they've always done. So, who knows how Galette will behave from now on?[/B]

[B]Junior has been at Redskins Park for about fifteen seconds so he has no earthly idea whether or not the Redskins are a "properly functioning" organization. That sounds more like another dig at the New Orleans organization.[/B]

3 - stunting the growth of 2 2nd rounders in Murphy and Smith is a consideration but TC hasnt even really started yet and injuries can make a lot of "whose starting" decisions. low risk, decent reward situation.

[B]If the Skins thought highly of Murphy and Smith as pass-rushers they may not have pursued Galette at all. Murphy is good vs. the run but I think Smith will be a bust because he lacks quickness.[/B]

i dont think this guy will be a beast or really play more than 50% of the snaps. i could see him as a specific package type player - 3rd downs and passing plays.

[B]That would be fine with me. If he can make some big plays as a pass rusher that would help the team.[/B]

[/quote]

Hail!

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its definitely the honeymoon period right now for Scot, Junior and a bunch of new guys so of course everyone is saying the right things.

re galette past - im not trying to defend him - but i know of 2 incidents.

1 - a woman (i think a family member) would not leave his house and he was charged but they were dropped. without knowing what extent of physical contact there was - that seems minor, maybe even understandable.

2 - the beach belt swinging is bad. his mitigation is that it was a melle w multiple ppl so there is some sense of gender not quit registering in a brawl type situation. i do assume that galette and his boys probably did start cat calling to some girls who were with some guys who didnt like that and stuff popped off. playing the "jump to conclusions" game.

i give big time props to that one guy who wouldnt back down and keep fighting when it seemed he was outnumbered and out gunned. also, fighting in sand looks really really hard. note to self - ground n pound if on beach.

edit - i need to edit this. i did hear that he tweeted personal stuff about his team mates like who was cheating with whom and some other stuff .. i havent read anything specific yet ... but that is really bad, like black balled from an NFL locker room type bad. like lavar giving the giants his playbook bad. i havent read anything yet on it though.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1115677]

i dont think this guy will be a beast or really play more than 50% of the snaps. i could see him as a specific package type player - 3rd downs and passing plays.[/QUOTE]


I think he'll play a lot more than that. Have you watched any of his highlights? He's got some nasty pass rush moves and a super high motor.

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no I havent seen any highlights. i did read a saints fan forum when the video first came out and then when he was released. slight consensus was that he was not worth the headache and (I think) not the best against the run. that he was named a captain last year but instead of taking a leadership role, he took an elitest approach that it validated him as the big dog in the locker room.

i am a fan of the signing. vet min. fills need of a pass rush expert.

the "high motor" characteristic is what i think Scot really means when he says good character. i think scot wants guys that eat, breath and shit football. football is their life and when scot says "we signed this guy because he is a redskin", thats what he means.

of course having players stay out of trouble is preferable and a players poor decisions that may lead to a suspension means that player may not eat, breath and live football bc he knowingly made a poor decision that would take him off the field.

when Scot says "hes a redskin", that doesnt mean Scot is looking for saints off the field but guys who have drive and put in the work. i dont think amerson or reed is a Scot type redskin.

if he is a beast at 27, hell yeah, even better. what i anticipate from little i know - i imagine he will be used in pass rushing packages and rotated with murphy and smith with 1 or 2 of the 3 on the field at the same time.

i see a lot of substitutions and fresh legs for the front 7 sans Kerrigan and Robinson. there will be no real starters in the traditional sense. i think this is what Scot envisions. lots of fresh good big guys ready to wreak havoc.

lol, with all that said, no, i havent watched actual film on him.

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22 sacks in 2 years for $745,000? Low risk, high possible reward. If he doesn't
work out because of off the field or locker room issues send him packing. Kind of like throwing away something bought at the dollar store, not much of a loss if it doesn't work out.

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i don't think this guy will be a beast or really play more than 50% of the snaps. i could see him as a specific package type player - 3rd downs and passing plays.

Like M has already stated, I expect to see a lot of him. This guy may prove to be an....Animal! He has a lot to prove and...regain. Has the skill to get it done and if he can keep his personal s... together and the other moves made, we're going to have a strong rush...Cannot Wait!

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[quote=Mattyk;1115629]Not sure I see much risk involved here, if he's a turd you cut him. We've got some good leadership on D to hopefully have him fall in line with.[/quote]

This is THE end all, be all argument. Do you guys understand that we are paying Galette the same as we are paying Frank Kearse and Jackson Jeffcoat from a salary cap perspective?

Knowing that, how you can still have concerns baffles me, and shows you don't understand the NFL's transaction process.

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Voted down. Thought we weren't the cowboys.

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[quote=Schneed10;1115701]This is THE end all, be all argument. Do you guys understand that we are paying Galette the same as we are paying Frank Kearse and Jackson Jeffcoat from a salary cap perspective?

Knowing that, how you can still have concerns baffles me, and shows you don't understand the NFL's transaction process.[/quote]

Well it's not the end all, be all argument. There is the issue of is the locker room/organization strong enough to handle a player who is known to have been difficult for teammates to deal with in the locker room; will likely less playing time negatively impact Trent Murphy's (and Preston Smith's) development; what about the strong possibility he could be suspended for up to half the season. The first two in particular could linger long after the financial implications are gone.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1115703]Well it's not the end all, be all argument. There is the issue of is the locker room/organization strong enough to handle a player who is known to have been difficult for teammates to deal with in the locker room; will likely less playing time negatively impact Trent Murphy's (and Preston Smith's) development; what about the strong possibility he could be suspended for up to half the season. The first two in particular could linger long after the financial implications are gone.[/quote]
Totally agree! I wish we had passed on him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1115703]Well it's not the end all, be all argument. [B]There is the issue of is the locker room/organization strong enough to handle a player who is known to have been difficult for teammates to deal with in the locker room; will likely less playing time negatively impact Trent Murphy's (and Preston Smith's) development; what about the strong possibility he could be suspended for up to half the season. [/B]The first two in particular could linger long after the financial implications are gone.[/quote]

This...

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All worth the risk IMO. McCloughan agrees.

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[quote=Mattyk;1115718]All worth the risk IMO. McCloughan agrees.[/quote]

I hope you're both right

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[quote=Mattyk;1115718]All worth the risk IMO. McCloughan agrees.[/quote]

I agree, I think at that price he's worth the risk. I would hate to have watched him sign with a division rival (at that price) and terrorize our QB next year. The Skins needed another pass rusher and got a pretty damn good one. Sure he comes with some risk (maybe alot), but I trust what the front office is doing this year.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1115719]I hope you're both right[/quote]

What do you think in regards to the suspension, any guestimates? Im so lost on the league and the penalties and where are we on the investigation???

Goodell's credibility and transparency, I mean, he could work within Obama's cabinet...

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I really don't know

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K well if suspended, you start Smith or Murph, find out about them, and then are armed with more knowledge about them and can make a better decision on Galette next season.

I'd also like to remind you guys that double digit sack speed rushers don't grow on trees.

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And you can never have too many of them. New York didn't complain when Mathias Kiwaunuka didn't crack the starting lineup.

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Galette, Pae, Hatcher, Kerrigan as a NASCAR package is pretty stout if you ask me

Considering Smith was a decent inside pass rusher in college too it seems as though we have some options this uear

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[url=http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2015/08/junior_galette_suit.html]Civil suit against former Saints linebacker Junior Galette dismissed, attorney says | NOLA.com[/url]

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[QUOTE]"We did our investigation," said McCloughan. "We were thorough, thorough, thorough. We went to the league office and other players [and coaches] in the league. This guy, we feel very comfortable bringing him on board. Very comfortable.

"The decision was made because we really believe he's a Redskin and that's why I signed him."[/QUOTE]

Either you believe in Scotty M or you don't.

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I believe in McC.

Have no reason not to yet, and otherwise there is no hope.

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Just to be clear, this suit stemmed from a different incident than the one at the beach.

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[quote=SirLK26;1116066]Just to be clear, this suit stemmed from a different incident than the one at the beach.[/quote]

Right but on that one at the beach:

- The tape opens with Galette engaged in a fight, what's not clear is whether he started the fight or whether he was defending himself

- The New Orleans Times Picayune reports that the man in the video is Junior Galette, but Galette's lawyer's stance has been that you can't prove it's him in the video, so I'm not sure it stands up in court without witnesses corroborating in court that it's him

- It's a fight, not domestic violence. The tape opens with Galette engaged in a fight. It's not Ray Rice in an elevator knocking out his wife.

- When the woman approaches him, she does so in an aggressive posture, thereby engaging in a fight. He strikes her with the belt. But that's not domestic violence, that's either assault & battery or it's self defense. I understand and believe in the you never hit a woman rule, but the legal system is not going to treat that as domestic violence.

- The fight happened in 2013, and there were no charges filed against Galette stemming from that incident, whether for domestic abuse or assault & battery. Which means there is no police report and no legal record containing witness statements. Which means it's a he said she said.

The NFL is investigating it. They're not going to conclude that this is a domestic violence issue, so he won't get the 6 games under the new rule. Furthermore, Greg Hardy's suspension was reduced to 4 games on the grounds that the domestic violence policy wasn't in place at the time of the act. The same would go for Galette. Regardless, it's a fight, not a domestic violence issue.

The NFL could decide it's a personal conduct policy issue, but that will depend on the outcome of the investigation and whether they can get witness statements. This is probably where it will end up, and he'll probably get 2-4 games, even less if those witness statements indicate Galette was on the defense in this fight.

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He'll definitely come in handy playing the Ravens . . . you know, battle of the BELTway .

I know . . . really bad.

I knew it was bad before I typed it, but I just couldn't help myself.

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It WAS bad.....but I laughed anyway

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SM is still in the honeymoon phase. So far, everything he does is going to get positive comments from everyone. I haven't agreed with everything he's done, but I think he's doing a real nice job. He's giving the team serious direction that we haven't had since Casserly. But if he has a bad draft or two, or blows several free agent signings, I'm sure the "I trust SM" comments will be crickets. LOL.

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Let's hope Gallete doesn't suffer from Orakpoitis, he's recovering from a torn pec that's why they are taking their time to play him in camp.

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[quote=WillH;1116072]He'll definitely come in handy playing the Ravens . . . you know, battle of the BELTway .

I know . . . really bad.

I knew it was bad before I typed it, but I just couldn't help myself.[/quote]


You going straight to HELL. That was FUNNY.

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Listening to the Local ESPN affiliate in SWFL. They were interviewing a nation Football...Stat...guru guy of some acclaim(whom I do not recall the name).
Basically he was stating, he really liked what SM was doing and the direction the team was going under his leadership. That the Skins BY FAR had the best offseason in his opinion in bringing in high quality (not high profile or high risk) FA's that will greatly help the team. Additionally stating the team would "make some noise" when the QB and possibly the HC position were solidified (depending of course how each fared this season)
.........nice to hear for a change

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[quote=SmootSmack;1115703]Well it's not the end all, be all argument. There is the issue of is the locker room/organization strong enough to handle a player who is known to have been difficult for teammates to deal with in the locker room; [/quote]

I say you jettison his ass the first sign of discontent and I mean the first sign not after it's already rooted.

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Before Galette came here I never heard of him. Just going by his stats, bypassing his off field issues, I am pretty amped he is here. If he keeps the same production with Was that he did with New Orleans this will have me as giddy as someone putting butter on my Pop-Tarts:
[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jYm0WQf_sNI[/url]

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After reading these comments it has become obvious to me that none of you actually watch the video. Based on what I saw Gallete was the one being attacked. The girl who go struck with the belt only got hit because she ran up in face trying to fight. I also find it convenient that the media left out that Gallete also struck a guy with a belt who was also attacking him. Maybe he should have walked away from the whole situation but based on the video he wasn't the aggressor. It looked like self defense to me.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfDQkpKRIkM[/url]

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1116246]After reading these comments it has become obvious to me that none of you actually watch the video. Based on what I saw Gallete was the one being attacked. The girl who go struck with the belt only got hit because she ran up in face trying to fight. I also find it convenient that the media left out that Gallete also struck a guy with a belt who was also attacking him. Maybe he should have walked away from the whole situation but based on the video he wasn't the aggressor. It looked like self defense to me.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfDQkpKRIkM[/url][/quote]

That's exactly what I thought too. I watched, see my post above.

Nothing in the video gives me reason think Galette can be labeled as the source of the problem. Sure, you'd like to see a guy never getting into the situation in the first place. But this is definitely not Ray Rice, it's definitely not Greg Hardy. It's not even the dude who punched Geno.

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[quote=WillH;1116072]He'll definitely come in handy playing the Ravens . . . you know, battle of the BELTway .

I know . . . really bad.

I knew it was bad before I typed it, but I just couldn't help myself.[/quote]

That's fn hilarious. Well done

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1116331]That's fn hilarious. Well done[/quote]

That joke was weak.

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This worries me, especially since his play is relentless. I didn't know he elected not to have the surgery. I hope his gut instinct is right.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/19026/redskins-lb-junior-galette-went-with-gut-instinct-to-avoid-surgery]Junior Galette went with gut instinct to avoid surgery - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]