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If you're talking about 50% of draft picks missing, how does it stand to reason that suddenly Luck or Tannehill will have a better supporting cast next year because a first round pick?

Based on a 50/50 failure rate, that makes those odds even less likely they'll have a better supporting cast than RGIII.

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Since Mike Shanahan has been the head coach of the Redskins, there hasn't been a 1,000 yard rusher. Once either Roy Helu, Evan Royster, or some other running back accomplishes this feat, that's when the Redskins will start winning games. Along with a balanced attack to go along with the passing game, the offense will be explosive whether the quarterback is Robert Griffin III or Andrew Luck.

The offensive line has been in question since Shanahan's tenure as head coach. There's nothing wrong with the offensive line. The longer this group plays together the better they will be. Trent Williams, Kory Lichteinstger, Will Montgomery, Chester and maybe Jamaal Brown can be amongst the best offensive lines in the league. And they have depth with Maurice Hurt, Willie Smith, Sean Locklear, and Tyler Polumbus.

The defense played solidly last season as they moved 18 spots in the rankings from 31st to 13th. At one time during the season, they were actually ranked 11th, just shy of the top ten.

The Redskins have Stephen Bowen, Adam Carriker, Barry Cofield starting. As everyone knows, the defense will be getting Jarvis Jenkins back and young NT Chris Neild will be growing more into his nose tackle role.

The linebacking corps with Perry Riley, Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, and possibly London Fletcher can only get better as they caused all sorts of havoc on quarterbacks and running backs last season.

In the secondary, the Redskins left a lot to be desired. This unit is probably the reason why the defense didn't get a top 10 ranking. They've added a few parts in free agency and Raheem Morris has been hired to direct the defensive backs. Landry and Atogwe are both gone, but the safety play could only improve from what we saw last season.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;903622]If you're talking about 50% of draft picks missing, how does it stand to reason that suddenly Luck or Tannehill will have a better supporting cast next year because a first round pick?

Based on a 50/50 failure rate, that makes those odds even less likely they'll have a better supporting cast than RGIII.[/quote]

I think he's saying (in far too many words) that at least the Colts will have 1st rounders next year and the year after to add players around Luck. We will not be able to do so for Griffin. Fair point.

But it's MUCH harder to get the franchise QB than it is to fill in a surrounding cast. So you take your shot when you can. The mathematician in me says trading for Griffin is the right decision, simply because of the win shares a top QB represents to his team. But the fan in me also says that not trading up for Griffin would have been pussing out.

At some point, take an effing risk. Never up never in.

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I agree, particularly when you're talking about taking someone later just to MAYBE get Barkley next year.

Even if we had those first rounders and ended up getting solely SOLID picks, a real QB is more than worth it.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;903623]Since Mike Shanahan has been the head coach of the Redskins, there hasn't been a 1,000 yard rusher. Once either Roy Helu, Evan Royster, or some other running back accomplishes this feat, that's when the Redskins will start winning games. Along with a balanced attack to go along with the passing game, the offense will be explosive whether the quarterback is Robert Griffin III or Andrew Luck.

The offensive line has been in question since Shanahan's tenure as head coach. There's nothing wrong with the offensive line. The longer this group plays together the better they will be. Trent Williams, Kory Lichteinstger, Will Montgomery, Chester and maybe Jamaal Brown can be amongst the best offensive lines in the league. And they have depth with Maurice Hurt, Willie Smith, Sean Locklear, and Tyler Polumbus.
[/quote]Just a few question for you that I couldn't figure out from your post.

What do you think is stopping one of those backs from gaining 1,000 yards?
What do you think is causing the imbalanace in the offensive attack?

Why is there nothing wrong with the OL?
Why will this same OL that was barely average last year be amongst the best this year?

I will take a core of 2 strong OLBs a young LT and a potential franchise QB. Add in a potential DT in Jenkins, and some young RBs and I would say that as a nucleus it would be a very good one.

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[quote=30gut;903626]Just a few question for you that I couldn't figure out from your post.

What do you think is stopping one of those backs from gaining 1,000 yards?
What do you think is causing the imbalanace in the offensive attack?

Why is there nothing wrong with the OL?
Why will this same OL that was barely average last year be amongst the best this year?[/quote]

Helu could have easily gained one thousand yards. But Mike Shanahan made him a starter only after Tim Hightower tore his ACL. In my opinion, Helu is our best running back last year and had he gotten more carries earlier in the season, he would have gotten 1,000 plus yards.

The Redskins ranked 16th in offense last year and that was with turnover machine Rex Grossman and that bum John Beck playing quarterback. Nothing was truly wrong with the offense. The amateurish quarterback play was the main contributing factor in how bad the offense was. The Redskins actually hung tough the first four games, but reality soon set in.

The offensive line was depleted by injuries. When the reserves did play, they struggled but at times they also played admirably. Sometimes when a team is trying to find itself, the coaches can replace players with other ones, but they also allow certain units to keep playing together until they are very good. The Redskins have a young offensive line. Brown was the elder lineman.

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If you add Helu's and Royster's rushing yards this season they are at 968 with limited play time and Ryan Torain and Tim Hightower taking carries. With a full 16 game season Helu will easily crack 1,000 yards. I predict he gets 1,000 this season and Royster gets 500 plus. The addition of Griffin and his bootleg backside threat will open holes a la Mike Vick in Atlanta.

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[quote=Schneed10;903620]Many good points here, and I concede the point on strong cast and QB being tied at the hip, but one thing carries the day. You can win the SB with a great QB and a strong surrounding cast, but you can't win the SB with a strong surrounding cast minus a great QB. The example of Dilfer doing it no longer applies given the new rules the league is employing.[/quote]I think winning the SB still validates your belief in the current QB. We saw it happen w/Eli a few years back: if the 49ers win the SB next year, they'll be front and center calling out people who called Alex Smith a bust.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;903622]If you're talking about 50% of draft picks missing, how does it stand to reason that suddenly Luck or Tannehill will have a better supporting cast next year because a first round pick?

Based on a 50/50 failure rate, that makes those odds even less likely they'll have a better supporting cast than RGIII.[/quote]I don't follow you.

I don't know where Tannehill is going (I suspect Miami), but based on where Luck is going, we won't know who comprises the core of the Andrew Luck Colts for a year or two. They have Anthony Castanzo and Donald Brown, but Jerry Hughes appears to be headed for bustsville. That leaves Castanzo, Luck, Brown, and first rounders in future drafts as well as this year's high second rounder to build the core of the Luck Colts.

Miami has Dansby, Vontae Davis, Cam Wake, Jake Long, and Mike Pouncey. Like the Colts, that's a nice start, but we won't know where the strength of their core lies until they get to building around Tannehill (if they even pick him).

If you're core players bust, they bust and have to be replaced. Always possible. But the Redskins' highest draft selection after Griffin is already second round of 2013. To get a core player there, they'd need to do a really good job in the evaluation process, take a risk on a guy with some upside, and pick him. But that's not an advantage the Redskins will have over other teams, who could do the same thing (especially if RG3 pans out and we're picking in the middle of the draft instead of at the top).

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;903628]I will take a core of 2 strong OLBs a young LT and a potential franchise QB. Add in a potential DT in Jenkins, and some young RBs and I would say that as a nucleus it would be a very good one.[/quote]I'll say this: if you're going to plant your core at four positions on the field and build around that, those are four pretty good positions to pick.

It's just a small core, that's all. I mean, look at Kansas City, a possible landing spot for Tannehill:

2005-Derrick Johnson
2006-Tamba Hali
2007-Dwayne Bowe
2008-Glenn Dorsey, Branden Albert, Brandon Flowers, Jamaal Charles
2009-Tyson Jackson
2010-Eric Berry
2011-Jon Baldwin
2012-Tannehill?

They ran the personnel guy who built the first half of that out of town, kind of like we did with Vinny.

Johnson and Hali are 29 and in their primes, but that's a team that would become the dominant team in the west if it fixed it's QB issue. If you add RG3 to that? You wouldn't care about not picking in the next two rounds. That core is massive.

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[quote=GTripp0012;903643]I think winning the SB still validates your belief in the current QB. We saw it happen w/Eli a few years back: if the 49ers win the SB next year, they'll be front and center calling out people who called Alex Smith a bust.[/quote]

True. But the only QBs in whom we believe are SB winners are those taken at the top of the draft. Eli validated the belief.

Hence Griffin. QBs with that much promise give hope by offering the legit shot at it.

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[quote=Schneed10;903659]True. But the only QBs in whom we believe are SB winners are those taken at the top of the draft. Eli validated the belief.

Hence Griffin. QBs with that much promise give hope by offering the legit shot at it.[/quote]I mean, T.J. Yates was never plan A, but he was taken in the 6th round last year, and ended up quarterbacking the pound-for-pound best team last year as a rookie. Odds were always going to be against him to win the whole thing, but all the Texans needed was a guy who would be pushing in the right direction at the quarterback position. And there are more than 32 guys like that in the league.

The Redskins, however, cannot get to where the Texans were simply by having Griffin push the team in the right direction. He is the team. Already.

I don't think the Redskins deserve to be ridiculed for making what was a very defensible trade. But by calling this trade a "loss" for the Redskins FO, we can separate Griffin from the expectations that 3 first round picks and a second would normally create. If we can accept that the Redskins got worse in this deal, I think we can judge RG3 in comparison to all highly drafted NFL quarterbacks, instead of the player who returned the greatest compensation in the last 12 NFL seasons.

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I would add Fred Davis to our "core" young talent. Hankerson/Helu/Royster showed flashes on offense as did Perry Riley and Jarvis Jenkins on D. Now if Garcon and Morgan pan out like I think they will, we will be in sexy shape.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;903677]I would add Fred Davis to our "core" young talent. Hankerson/Helu/Royster showed flashes on offense as did Perry Riley and Jarvis Jenkins on D. Now if Garcon and Morgan pan out like I think they will, we will be in sexy shape.[/quote]I have no problem with Fred Davis being considered a core player, once they agree to a long-term contract (same with Orakpo).

Hankerson/Helu/Royster are supporting cast guys. And hopefully really good ones. As obviously, are Garcon and Morgan.

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[quote=GTripp0012;903661]I mean, T.J. Yates was never plan A, but he was taken in the 6th round last year, and ended up quarterbacking the pound-for-pound best team last year as a rookie. Odds were always going to be against him to win the whole thing, but all the Texans needed was a guy who would be pushing in the right direction at the quarterback position. And there are more than 32 guys like that in the league.

The Redskins, however, cannot get to where the Texans were simply by having Griffin push the team in the right direction. He is the team. Already.

I don't think the Redskins deserve to be ridiculed for making what was a very defensible trade. But by calling this trade a "loss" for the Redskins FO, we can separate Griffin from the expectations that 3 first round picks and a second would normally create. If we can accept that the Redskins got worse in this deal, I think we can judge RG3 in comparison to all highly drafted NFL quarterbacks, instead of the player who returned the greatest compensation in the last 12 NFL seasons.[/quote]

Well when Schaub went down so did the hopes of the entire fan base. Nobody truly believed they'd win with TJ Yates. I'm unsure whether Schaub could have gotten it done either, but with Yates, forget it.

I'm not interested in separating Griffin from those expectations. You seem to think those expectations are unreasonably high. Not sure why, everyone who knows something about football seems to think Griffin's one of the best to come out since Manning.

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[quote=Schneed10;903684]Well when Schaub went down so did the hopes of the entire fan base. Nobody truly believed they'd win with TJ Yates. I'm unsure whether Schaub could have gotten it done either, but with Yates, forget it.

I'm not interested in separating Griffin from those expectations. You seem to think those expectations are unreasonably high. Not sure why, everyone who knows something about football seems to think Griffin's one of the best to come out since Manning.[/quote]He is, but the guy he's most similar to (Aaron Rodgers) couldn't find a team to take him in the draft and even as recently as 2008, played for a team that drafted a quarterback in the first two rounds because they just didn't know what they had in him.

I mean, it's not unreasonable to believe that as good as RG3 is, that the Redskins find themselves making an educated guess in 2015 on whether to offer him a second contract or move in a different direction. It could have easily happened with the Packers and Rodgers, if the front office that drafted him wasn't still there.

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[quote=GTripp0012;903698]He is, but the guy he's most similar to (Aaron Rodgers) couldn't find a team to take him in the draft and even as recently as 2008, played for a team that drafted a quarterback in the first two rounds because they just didn't know what they had in him.

I mean, it's not unreasonable to believe that as good as RG3 is, that the Redskins find themselves making an educated guess in 2015 on whether to offer him a second contract or move in a different direction. It could have easily happened with the Packers and Rodgers, if the front office that drafted him wasn't still there.[/quote]

It's totally unreasonable to believe that. Rodgers sat for two (three?) seasons first, so naturally data was incomplete. RG3 will play immediately (there's certainly no Favre in his way here). They'll have all the info they need to decide on a big contract in 2015.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;903679]I have no problem with Fred Davis being considered a core player, once they agree to a long-term contract (same with Orakpo).



Hankerson/Helu/Royster are supporting cast guys. And hopefully really good ones. As obviously, are Garcon and Morgan.[/QUOTE]



If Garcon, Hankerson, or Morgan can give us the production that Santana has given us over the last 7 years they become core pieces to me. Helu showed last year that he can be a 225-250 carry 1,000 yard back if used as a full-time starter. I see Helu cracking 1,000 yards this season.

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[quote=Schneed10;903699]It's totally unreasonable to believe that. Rodgers sat for two (three?) seasons first, so naturally data was incomplete. RG3 will play immediately (there's certainly no Favre in his way here). They'll have all the info they need to decide on a big contract in 2015.[/quote]I'm saying it's likely that early results will be mixed. If not from snap to snap (like early career Grossman), then from year to year (like early career Josh Freeman).

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[quote=GTripp0012;903702]I'm saying it's likely that early results will be mixed. If not from snap to snap (like early career Grossman), then from year to year (like early career Josh Freeman).[/quote]

Mixed results due to a surrounding cast as erratic as Freeman's? Or in that RG3's abilities compare to Freeman's?

Because Griffin is light years ahead of where Freeman was coming out.

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[quote=Schneed10;903710]Mixed results due to a surrounding cast as erratic as Freeman's? Or in that RG3's abilities compare to Freeman's?

Because Griffin is light years ahead of where Freeman was coming out.[/quote]The former, most likely.

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I think we are rebuilt. Shanny has found the team he wanted for the most part. He will more less sink or swim with the players we have going into this year.

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First, it sucks to lose 1st round draft picks, but if RG3 lives up to the hype, it would be worth it. Also, if we get our cap room back, the FAs we could sign could more than make up for the loss of draft picks (which was the plan to begin with before the commish intervened)..

And I agree w previous post -- with this draft, I'd say we already [U]REBUILT[/U].

RG3 fills the most important role, and now we've completed the most important part of our rebuilding process. Everything else is easier and downhill, and we'll continue to improve/rebuild the team - but again, our rebuilding process will peak with the draft this year, and will mostly finish in 2 years.

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If the passing game can become explosive, then the Redskins should be able to rack up yardage and points. When was the last time the Redskins had two wide receivers go over 1,000 yards in a season? Michael Wesbrook and Albert Connell way back in 1999. If Garcon and Hankerson can each top 1,000 yards worth of receptions, and if Helu can rush for over 1,000 yards then consider the offense completely fixed.

Giving RG3 the keys to the offense is similar to what Joe Gibbs did with a young Mark Rypien in 1988 and 1989. And if the defense can improve on it 13th place ranking from a season ago, this Redskins team can go very far.

At preseason's end, quite a few NFL analysts were predicting the Redskins to win the NFC east. Well, what will they say this coming season especially when the Redskins have more explosive weapons than a year ago?

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as for the OL, Helu and Royster - when our line was at its most depleted we had a 100 yard rusher 5 of the last 6 games......that is a good place to start next year.

That is starting to sound like the - insert a back - Shanahan running game.

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[quote=GTripp0012;903698]He is, but the guy he's most similar to (Aaron Rodgers) couldn't find a team to take him in the draft and even as recently as 2008, played for a team that drafted a quarterback in the first two rounds because they just didn't know what they had in him.

I mean, it's not unreasonable to believe that as good as RG3 is, that the Redskins find themselves making an educated guess in 2015 on whether to offer him a second contract or move in a different direction. [B] It could have easily happened with the Packers and Rodgers, if the front office that drafted him wasn't still there.[/B][/quote]

If Griffin isn't worth resigning, then the current FO will not be here, and he won't be resigned. If he is, the current FO will be here, and he will be resigned. I doubt it will be based on any guessing period.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;903748]Giving RG3 the keys to the offense is similar to what Joe Gibbs did with a young Mark Rypien in 1988 and 1989. And if the defense can improve on it 13th place ranking from a season ago, this Redskins team can go very far.[/quote]Neither here nor there but you know what I remember about Rypien? He was rarely ever touched.
There was a 26 game span where he was sacked a [I][B]total[/B][/I] of 13 times.
[I][B]13[/B][/I] times.
We had the type of OL that could make Blaine Gabbert look like a world beater.

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Kid hasn't even been drafted and we're already speculating about his 2nd contract?

Man, when is the draft already?

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[quote=Mattyk;903804]Kid hasn't even been drafted and we're already speculating about his 2nd contract?

Man, when is the draft already?[/quote]

No kidding.

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[quote=30gut;903801]Neither here nor there but you know what I remember about Rypien? He was rarely ever touched.
There was a 26 game span where he was sacked a [I][B]total[/B][/I] of 13 times.
[I][B]13[/B][/I] times.
We had the type of OL that could make Blaine Gabbert look like a world beater.[/quote]

I just don't think those OL's happen anymore. Right now, the defenses in the league have progressed and pressure is going to happen in most games. You need a qb that can be elusive and help make the OL better. Peyton Manning is a great example of that.

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[quote=Mattyk;903804]Kid hasn't even been drafted and we're already speculating about his 2nd contract?

Man, when is the draft already?[/quote]

Are you saying it is too early to start a RG3 HOF thread? LOL.

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[quote=Ruhskins;903807]Are you saying it is too early to start a RG3 HOF thread? LOL.[/quote]

F it, how about a RGIV thread?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;903806]I just don't think those OL's happen anymore. Right now, the defenses in the league have progressed and pressure is going to happen in most games. You need a qb that can be elusive and help make the OL better. Peyton Manning is a great example of that.[/quote]I get the feeling that you think I'm implying something rather then pointing out a flaw in the scenario below:
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;903748]Giving RG3 the keys to the offense is similar to what Joe Gibbs did with a young Mark Rypien in 1988 and 1989.[/quote]
Rypien was handed the keys to an offense protected by one of the best OL in NFL history; RG3 is being handed the keys to an OL that we hope will be near league average.

I agree that its unlikely that an OL like the hogs happen again; but not because of the defenses but because of [I]cost[/I].
In todays NFL an OL of that quality would be very expensive to maintain.
But, that's not to say that teams don't strive to build and invest in the OL.
Every year there are teams that provide excellent pass protection.
Most years there are a few teams that give up less then 20 sacks.
Almost a 1/3 of the league gives up less then 30.

And I completely disagree that you [I][B]need[/B][/I] an elusive QB to make an OL (seem) more productive.
Offensive lines by and large are who they are; a QB isn't going to make them 'block' better.
But, I agree that a QB along with a good [I]scheme[/I] can help an OL lower its sack totals.
Also, Peyton Manning is a lot of things but elusive is not one of them.
Non-elusive QBs like Peyton and Brady often have [I]lower[/I] sack totals then elusive QBs Rothlisberger, Rodgers, Vick but that could be for a lot of reasons.
Low sack numbers are generally a result of good decision making + good OL play.

And the Patriots have invested the resources needed to build and maintain a quality OL.
The Colts offenses typically featured strong OL and their recent struggles have been linked to the decline of the their OL.
One of the overlooked reasons for Cam Newton's success is the quality of the Panthers OL.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;903748]If the passing game can become explosive, then the Redskins should be able to rack up yardage and points. When was the last time the Redskins had two wide receivers go over 1,000 yards in a season? Michael Wesbrook and Albert Connell way back in 1999. If Garcon and Hankerson can each top 1,000 yards worth of receptions, and if Helu can rush for over 1,000 yards then consider the offense completely fixed.

Giving RG3 the keys to the offense is similar to what Joe Gibbs did with a young Mark Rypien in 1988 and 1989. And if the defense can improve on it 13th place ranking from a season ago, this Redskins team can go very far.

[B]At preseason's end, quite a few NFL analysts were predicting the Redskins to win the NFC east.[/B] Well, what will they say this coming season especially when the Redskins have more explosive weapons than a year ago?[/quote]

The only person I remember saying it was Michael Lombardi and I also remember him saying something about regretting that choice in mid-October.

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RG3 will make our OL look better without a doubt. Just like Vick does in Philly and they have a worse line than us.

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[quote=Paintrain;903383]I'm definitely in this camp. To answer GTripp's question literally, are we rebuilding, yes. By rebuilding the inference is that we are not a Super Bowl contender at this point which I don't really think is up for debate. However, I expect to see the most talented and most balanced Redskin team since 2007 on the field next year and a much improved product than in recent seasons.

I'm not really of the belief that the RGIII trade has crippled our chances to improve over the next 3 off seasons. That mentality is rooted in the belief that we will still be a 4-7 win team and picking in the upper 1/3 of the draft. I'm not discounting the value of first round picks but they are not a guarantee of success. We still have plenty of picks over the next three years to build a legitimate contender, assuming RGIII is what he appears to be. It's been so long since we've had quality at that position, we forget how much an elite QB can raise the performance of the overall team.

To answer the final question, yes, I think there is a plan and has been since 2010. 2010 evaluate the roster and start the 3-4 transition, try to win with core players plus a couple of additions. 2011 focus on building a playoff defense through the draft and free agency. 2012 focus on building a playoff offense, focusing on skill positions (that's why I don't think an early pick on a RB is out of the question) and specify areas of need. The cap penalties probably derailed our full plan this offseason but we targeted players to address one of our major shortcomings in recent years, team speed and explosive players.

I've been saying since late 2011 and into the early offseason, my evaluation of Shanahan starts this season. He was playing with Zorn's roster in 2010 and was hindered by a lockout in 2011. Now he's built his defense and his offense, let's see what he does with them.[/quote]

Solid post, though kinder to Mike than is deserved. Our coaches gameday preparation/performance has been underwhelming, disappointing for a SB winning HC and "up-and-coming" OC. I fully understand talent was limited, especially on offense, but limited talent does not preclude the coaches ability to teach a 2 min drill, overall tempo and general gameday preparedness.

Whether we're rebuilding or looking to win now is almost moot at this point, unless our gameday prep/performance from players certainly, but coaches especially, improves dramatically off-season strategy is totally irrelavent.

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[quote=SkinItup;903883]RG3 will make our OL look better without a doubt. Just like Vick does in Philly and they have a worse line than us.[/quote]
You think our OL is better then Eagles?

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[quote=30gut;903907]You think our OL is better then Eagles?[/quote]

I don't. U?

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[quote=30gut;903907]You think our OL is better then Eagles?[/quote]

I think when healthy, the 'skins OL is pretty solid.