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2012 Redskins Offense
QB- Rex, Rookie QB, 3rd QB ?
RB-Hightower, Helu, Royster, 4th RB ?
FB-D,Young
TE-Davis, Cooley, Paulsen
LT-Trent. W.Smith, Rookie
LG-Korey. Hurt
C-Monty, Rookie
RG-Chester, Rookie
RT-Rookie ? Brown, W.Smith
WR-Gaffney,Moss, Hankerson, Rookie, Paul, Austin?

Defense
NT-Coffield, Neild, Rookie?
DE-Bowen , Jenkins, A.Carracker, Rookie, Vet
OLB-Rak, Kerrigan, Jackson, Rookie
ILB-Riley,Fletcher,Lorenzo(Special Teams) ,Rookie
CB-Hall, Wilson , Barnes, Rookie, Westbrook (Special teams)
SS-LaRon, Reed ? Rookie
FS-OJ, Gomes, Rookie
Punter-Sav Rocca
Kicker-Gano ? Vet Kicker to compete
KR-Banks, Paul
PR-Banks, Austin

Rookie will start over Rex and our WRs will look different no doubt. Helu starts and Hightower isn't brought back

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[quote=skinsfaninok;864730]Rookie will start over Rex and our WRs will look different no doubt. Helu starts and Hightower isn't brought back[/quote]

I agree I dont think Austin will be around next year. I just dont think the coaching staff likes what they see from him. I don't understand it as it seems like he makes an impact when he gets some PT.

Why don't you think Hightower will be back? I got the impression that Shanny really liked what he brought to the table. I think he will be around for a t least one more year as Helu learns the ropes.

I just have a feeling because of his bad injury it's hard for RBs to get back to 100% not to mention he's a FA after this year. I'd like for him to b back though

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Oh ok gotcha, I am hoping he got somewhat lucky having the injury so early in the season. This will allow him to have enough time to rehab it properly, it's not much of a silver lining but at least its something!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;864733]I just have a feeling because of his bad injury it's hard for RBs to get back to 100% not to mention he's a FA after this year. I'd like for him to b back though[/quote]

He will be back. I garrontee eeett.

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I would imagine Beck will be let go, so that leaves Rex at the QB along with a drafted QB and whom ever 3rd.

We should be set at RB. Hightower with Helu could be a really good tandem next season, Royster as the 3rd. I think its a wasted pick to draft a RB next year.

WR - Moss, Gaffney, Hankerson, Paul.
TE - Davis, (Cooley may be gone) Paulson and maybe a vet or late rd draft pick

OL - Honestly think what we had prior to the injuries will be a good line. Williams, lickensteiger, montgomery, Chester, Brown. Now, I do think we draft a RT early (2nd or 3rd). I have always wondered where Selvish Capers is? is he on the practice squad? I believe with the style of offense ran at WVU he would be a really good fit as a guard in this system. He is big, strong and very athletic. WVU lineman had to be able to block, get off the block and quickly move to 2nd level. This system should fit his ability.

DL - We are good. Bowen, Cofield, Carriker, Jenkins, Neild.
LB - We are good here too. Maybe get a guy mid to late for inside LB,
CB - this is where we need to get a stud. if not 2nd, then 3rd. Need a starter if not addressed in FA.
safety - If Landry and Otagwe can stay healthy that would be a really really good tandem. Gomes has played well, Daughty is a back up, and a decent one.

draft is so tricky. There are so many QB's coming out this year that we could draft one in the 2nd round and make a play for Blackmon (WR our of Oaklahoma st) early 1st round. I would probably go after RGIII. THe guy is just outstanding and watching what Cam Newton has done in Carolina, he would be hard to look past. He is faster than Cam, and has a BIG arm. And may be more polished as a passer.

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If I threw out the name Sam Baker, the reaction would be....

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[quote=SmootSmack;864796]If I threw out the name Sam Baker, the reaction would be....[/quote]An offensive tackle who cannot pass protect, but as soon as you bump him inside he becomes a more interesting reclamation project.

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[quote=SmootSmack;864796]If I threw out the name Sam Baker, the reaction would be....[/quote]

What's his contract situation in Atlanta? If I'm not mistaken, when we moved down in the draft a few times in 2008, one of the teams that traded us picks to move up was Atlanta... to draft Sam Baker.

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Yeah we moved with them in 2008 and they took Baker

I'm not 100% sure of his contract status but I know Atlanta may be moving on without him and if they do Redskins would be a team he's interested in

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I think that Eddie Royal is a free agent and I would think Shannahan will go all out to sign him. He should come cheap, due to the fact that he is playing in a run all the time offense and his stats suck since Shannahan left. Also, he could take return duties and we would not be wasting a roster spot on a kick returner. I also like the thought of signing Michael Bush.

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[quote=SmootSmack;864802]Yeah we moved with them in 2008 and they took Baker

I'm not 100% sure of his contract status but I know Atlanta may be moving on without him and if they do Redskins would be a team he's interested in[/quote]
You would think Baker could be a good right tackle, but he probably stays in Atlanta unless they find a better answer.

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[quote=SmootSmack;864802]Yeah we moved with them in 2008 and they took Baker

I'm not 100% sure of his contract status but I know Atlanta may be moving on without him and if they do Redskins would be a team he's interested in[/quote]

why would we want him and where would he play? I wouldnt consider him an upgrade over the 2 tackles we have.

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[quote=Chico23231;864811]why would we want him and where would he play? I wouldnt consider him an upgrade over the 2 tackles we have.[/quote]

I don't know if we'd want him

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[quote=SmootSmack;864796]If I threw out the name Sam Baker, the reaction would be....[/quote]

He was supposed to be the Redskins pick, vinny traded it for 3 2nd rounders. I would sign him.

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Isn't Sam Baker more of a grinder type OT? Does he move well enough for the zone scheme? Like GT said, move him inside maybe.

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Landry is slowly becoming Bob Sanders

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[B]O’Halloran[/B]— I’ll throw out a curveball to wrap this up –[B] Brian Orakpo[/B]. A third-year player, he is second on the Redskins with six sacks, but [B]he’s no longer the team’s best outside linebacker[/B] (that goes to rookie Ryan Kerrigan). Nonetheless, he’s the rare asset and [B]if the Redskins want to get better, they could float him on the trade market.[/B]

I don't get statements like this......
If you trade Rack...who the hell replaces him with his kind of talent to make this type deal work profitably for the Skins?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;864946]Landry is slowly becoming Bob Sanders[/quote]

Only difference is, Bob Sanders made plays on the field. Landry never reads the qb's eyes and makes plays on the ball, and when he sees an opportunity to lay the wood, he tries to lay the wood, only to watch the offensive player bounce off him and keep going for another nice chunk of yards.

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[quote=mooby;864958]Only difference is, Bob Sanders made plays on the field. Landry never reads the qb's eyes and makes plays on the ball, and when he sees an opportunity to lay the wood, he tries to lay the wood, only to watch the offensive player bounce off him and keep going for another nice chunk of yards.[/quote]

lol what? It's funny how a bad season can turn around people's opinion of players. That is just a silly comment

Trading Brian would be retarded

[QUOTE=mooby;864958]Only difference is, Bob Sanders made plays on the field. Landry never reads the qb's eyes and makes plays on the ball, and when he sees an opportunity to lay the wood, he tries to lay the wood, only to watch the offensive player bounce off him and keep going for another nice chunk of yards.[/QUOTE]

LL is bad in coverage as is and honestly OJ A hasn't done much this year either

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You guys are to brutal. Landry has his flaws, but he's still an exciting player on our team and to boo him out of Washington is dumb.

Yes, he's missed tackles.. Those things happen, he's given up plays... Those things happen. It's not just one man playing against boys. It's a field of the worlds best athletes playing against each other.

Bob Sanders
Sean Taylor
Ed Reed
Brian Dawkins
John Lynch
Steve Atwater

All of them had made great plays, and I can throw out just as many bad plays as well.. It happens.. Landry is our best Safety right now, and at a position were we can't seem to fill with anything since our boy #21 passed away. We should keep the stable pieces in place.

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[quote=Bucket;864960]lol what? It's funny how a bad season can turn around people's opinion of players. That is just a silly comment[/quote]

I'll be the first to admit Landry was having an excellent season before he got injured in 2010. But for whatever reason he hasn't been the same player this season at all. Maybe it's because he's injured, but it's also his fault he's still dealing with that Achilles. How many players do you see get a serious injury like an Achilles and not get surgery on it?

And don't sit there and act like he didn't just do exactly what I said above last week in Seattle. He tried to lay the wood and that guy that plays for Seattle just bounced off him and gained an additional 10 yards. And that's not the first time that's happened. Add in the fact that he doesn't have a pick this season and you can say all you want about his impact, but the facts are showing it's just not there this season. Atogwe has been underwhelming too and that only magnifies the problem.

All that said, do I want him back next season? If I ran the team, I'd tell him to go do whatever he needs to do to be healthy next season, I'd give him a one year deal, and I'd let him know he's got one more chance to show this team he can be an elite player. Because we all know he will want to be paid like an elite player, but I'm not seeing the production to match it so far.

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[quote=mooby;864965]I'll be the first to admit Landry was having an excellent season before he got injured in 2010. But for whatever reason he hasn't been the same player this season at all. Maybe it's because he's injured, but it's also his fault he's still dealing with that Achilles. How many players do you see get a serious injury like an Achilles and not get surgery on it?

And don't sit there and act like he didn't just do exactly what I said above last week in Seattle. He tried to lay the wood and that guy that plays for Seattle just bounced off him and gained an additional 10 yards. And that's not the first time that's happened. Add in the fact that he doesn't have a pick this season and you can say all you want about his impact, but the facts are showing it's just not there this season. Atogwe has been underwhelming too and that only magnifies the problem.

All that said, do I want him back next season? If I ran the team, I'd tell him to go do whatever he needs to do to be healthy next season, I'd give him a one year deal, and I'd let him know he's got one more chance to show this team he can be an elite player. Because we all know he will want to be paid like an elite player, but I'm not seeing the production to match it so far.[/quote]

Its good you would tell Laundry that you would give him a 1 year deal if you were in charge. The thing is he is a free agent at the end of the season. So unless we franchise tag him or offer him a contract you wont be getting a 1 year deal from LaRon. It's no way he is going to risk a injury for a 1 year deal. Either we roll the dice and sign him to a long term deal or franchise tag him for trade bait. When LaRon is healthy he is a beast so we just have to keep our fingers cross that he will get healthy this off season and work out with our training staff. We need to keep our players and pay them instead of bring in more Adam Archelettas who are free agent busts.

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Look, I think it says a lot about Landry's value that no one thinks he's been at his best this year or even particularly good, and yet he's been perhaps the only above average performer in our secondary this year. It also says a lot about Atogwe, Hall, and Wilson. Though I think in Josh Wilson's case, we got what was advertised.

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Does D Hall stay or go in the offseason? scheduled to make 6.8m next year and 8.3m 2013

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[quote=Chico23231;865006]Does D Hall stay or go in the offseason? scheduled to make 6.8m next year and 8.3m 2013[/quote]

Now that's a better question. With Landry I am confident if he's healthy and willing to learn from his mistakes, he can easily be the player he's supposed to be. With D.Hall I'm not sure we want to pay him 6.8 mil for uneven play next season.

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[quote=mooby;865007]Now that's a better question. With Landry I am confident if he's healthy and willing to learn from his mistakes, he can easily be the player he's supposed to be. With D.Hall I'm not sure we want to pay him 6.8 mil for uneven play next season.[/quote]
I know it looks like alot of money, but I think it is probably average CB money. I would consider him at least close to average.

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FREE AGENT TARGETS
Demetrius Bell OT, Ben Grubbs OG, Nick Hardwick C, EJ Henderson LB, Curtis Lofton LB, Brent Grimes CB or Brandon Carr CB, Marques Colston WR, or VJAX WR
DREAM SCENARIO-- (snatch up Brees to mentor Barkley )

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I would be favor to have D Hall return 1 more year, would like to see us draft a CB this year. When it comes to the draft this year ideally I would like to see us:

round 1: QB
2: CB
3: G/C
4: ILB
5: FS

I like the value/quality of rated prospects in each of those positions in those rounds as well.

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[quote=Chico23231;865006]Does D Hall stay or go in the offseason? scheduled to make 6.8m next year and 8.3m 2013[/quote]

I hope he goes and they draft someone in the 2nd round to replace him. He's not worth the money he's getting paid.

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Like I said if we don't go QB in rd 1 I want Morris Claiborne

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;865029]Like I said if we don't go QB in rd 1 I want Morris Claiborne[/quote]

either him, tackle from USC or Justin Blackmon

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[quote=Chico23231;865031]either him, tackle from USC or Justin Blackmon[/quote]

Kalil is going top 3. I'd add Trent Richardson to that list.

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Thank god we took Williams over Okung. I think Okung is hurt all the time. At least Williams play most games and is pretty good when he is in there.

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[quote=Chico23231;865019]I would be favor to have D Hall return 1 more year, would like to see us draft a CB this year. When it comes to the draft this year ideally I would like to see us:

round 1: QB
[B]2: CB[/B]
3: G/C
4: ILB
5: FS

I like the value/quality of rated prospects in each of those positions in those rounds as well.[/quote]

We may not have a 2nd rounder if we need to move up to get our QB. I would rather look at free agency to bolster our secondary. Although, needs in the secondary may shift depending on what happens to Landry and how much we can rely on Atogwe as a FS.

I still think that our defense would like much better if we had a complimentary offense.


[quote=T.O.Killa;865040]Thank god we took Williams over Okung. I think Okung is hurt all the time. At least Williams play most games and is pretty good when he is in there.[/quote]

Most definitely. He's a good player, but he slowly becoming unreliable in terms of staying healthy.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;864268]The Redskins will no doubt draft another running back. I'd be surprised if Torain doesn't end up on the team. But I think he's trade bait rather than the Redskins just releasing him.[/quote]

Shoot McNabb just got released and his resume is a lot more impressive than Torain's. I don't see Torain getting too many looks bud.

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[quote=Ruhskins;865042]We may not have a 2nd rounder if we need to move up to get our QB. I would rather look at free agency to bolster our secondary. Although, needs in the secondary may shift depending on what happens to Landry and how much we can rely on Atogwe as a FS.

I still think that our defense would like much better if we had a complimentary offense.




Most definitely. He's a good player, but he slowly becoming unreliable in terms of staying healthy.[/quote]


WE are a top 8 pick for sure, if not top 5. Not everyone is going to need a QB, and even if they did the QB class is very deep.