Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

Only one Smackdown, to myself.

I believed that despite the fact we had an awful QB situation, a patchwork offensive line comprised of castoffs and hope-to-be players, a WR corp comprised of exactly the same and a RB group designed the exact same way that we could have a chance at a decent offense.

I believed that our 'retooled' defense made up of much of the same, players unwanted by their teams and average players who look good on our bad team-most of whom are still misfit for our scheme would improve and I wouldn't see the same of what I've been seeing for years. Blown assignments, big plays and horrendous tackling.

I smackdown myself for falling into the trap again. I know this is a long rebuild but I didn't want to believe it. I didn't want to believe when Matt Williamson said coming off of the lockout that we had the least talented roster in the NFL. I didn't want to agree with the skeptics who said our start was a mere mirage. I had visions of playoffs and even in a thread last week I concluded we would finish 8-8.

I've now smacked myself into reality that we need to keep the coaching staff in place and let them build towards competing in 2014. I've smacked myself into the reality that John Beck, Rex Grossman, Ryan Torrain, Anthony Armstrong, Jabar Gaffney, Donte Stallworth, Terrence Austin, Logan Paulsen, Will Montgomery, Kory Leichtenstiger, Erik Cook, Jamaal Brown, Rocky McIntosh, Kevin Barnes, Reed Doughty, DeAngelo Hall and Oshimigo Atogwe will never be starters on a playoff team as individuals and will never post a .500 record or better collectively. I've smacked myself into reality that it's going to be a long time before I enjoy Sundays in the fall again.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

oj's absence was huge paintrain. it was evident the whole game . . . oh thats right, oj doesnt like being referred to as oj. oj.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=Beemnseven;854024]We haven't seen that yet. And if the defense is "somewhat okay" then that would be your upgrade considering last season's D.

It wasn't possible to address every single need. This year the focus was defense.

How about this -- instead of taking a dump on each and every coach that comes to town, how about the players step up for once? Did anyone catch the graphic about all of the coaches after their first 22 games in Washington? It doesn't seem to matter if you have a legend for a head coach, a bad head coach, or a pathetic, clueless head coach -- the results are always the same with this organization. So when your trying to figure out what's wrong with a team, isn't it EVER justifiable to look at the players?[/quote]

Sure it is. And they are not doing their part.

But the buck stops with the FO and coaching. Just like in any other organization or company. The culture at the Skins right now is not a professional one nor is it a winning one.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=hooskins;854018]I've been Kyle's biggest defender the last few weeks, but the playcalling was absolutely horrible today. Couple that with terrible WR and Oline play John "I Telegraph My Passes" Beck was not going to succeed.

For the defensive side, being on the field for that long against a prolific offense, I think they did well.[/quote]

Kyle could have made perfect playcalls all day long, but won't matter much if these dopes don't execute.

I agree about the defense. They held the Bills to two TDs, forced a few FGs, and that was *again* having to deal with offensive teammates who have a problem turning the ball over.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=Beemnseven;854024]We haven't seen that yet. And if the defense is "somewhat okay" then that would be your upgrade considering last season's D.

It wasn't possible to address every single need. This year the focus was defense.

How about this -- instead of taking a dump on each and every coach that comes to town, how about the players step up for once? Did anyone catch the graphic about all of the coaches after their first 22 games in Washington? It doesn't seem to matter if you have a legend for a head coach, a bad head coach, or a pathetic, clueless head coach -- the results are always the same with this organization. So when your trying to figure out what's wrong with a team, isn't it EVER justifiable to look at the players?[/quote]

My comparison was to the team before Shanahan. Our defense was sh*t last year, this year's defense is of course better than last year's.

It's funny that you say that people take a dump on the coaches, b/c I feel that fans at least, always seem to be quick to blame the players.

You are right, the results seem to be the same, but I also feel that the coaches seem to be repeating the same mistakes. We are almost at the half season mark, and it seems that in today's NFL anything can happen, but I just don't have much faith in our outlook for the rest of the season. I would like to see the team play with a sense of purpose though. As people have pointed out, it seems that the only people doing that today were Fletcher, Rocca, and Davis.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=Paintrain;854025]Only one Smackdown, to myself.

I believed that despite the fact we had an awful QB situation, a patchwork offensive line comprised of castoffs and hope-to-be players, a WR corp comprised of exactly the same and a RB group designed the exact same way that we could have a chance at a decent offense.

I believed that our 'retooled' defense made up of much of the same, players unwanted by their teams and average players who look good on our bad team-most of whom are still misfit for our scheme would improve and I wouldn't see the same of what I've been seeing for years. [B] Blown assignments, big plays and horrendous tackling.[/B]

I smackdown myself for falling into the trap again. I know this is a long rebuild but I didn't want to believe it. I didn't want to believe when Matt Williamson said coming off of the lockout that we had the least talented roster in the NFL. I didn't want to agree with the skeptics who said our start was a mere mirage. I had visions of playoffs and even in a thread last week I concluded we would finish 8-8.

I've now smacked myself into reality that we need to keep the coaching staff in place and let them build towards competing in 2014. I've smacked myself into the reality that John Beck, Rex Grossman, Ryan Torrain, Anthony Armstrong, Jabar Gaffney, Donte Stallworth, Terrence Austin, Logan Paulsen, Will Montgomery, Kory Leichtenstiger, Erik Cook, Jamaal Brown, Rocky McIntosh, Kevin Barnes, Reed Doughty, DeAngelo Hall and Oshimigo Atogwe will never be starters on a playoff team as individuals and will never post a .500 record or better collectively. I've smacked myself into reality that it's going to be a long time before I enjoy Sundays in the fall again.[/quote]

I still don't think the D is as bad as people claim. Yeah we are giving up some big plays, but overall we hold teams to lower than their average. To me, that means we are NOT an average defense. I think we are a bit above average and are quite good at times. Our main weakness at D is our secondary. If you spread us out with 4/5 wide we can get burnt. But we do a good job of forcing teams to 3rd and long and we are pretty good in the RZ.

Honestly, the D has given us a fighting chance in each game. The offense is pathetic. Having no depth at Oline is really hurting us. The blame falls squarely on the FO. Olinemen get hurt all the time. We know this, but yet we get scrub WRs instead. I know that is gross oversimplification of the issue (I understand our receivers stink along with our QB) but plenty of teams are doing well with 2nd and 3rd string Olinemen.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=NC_Skins;854022]NEWSFLASH: We are 3-3. Not, 0-6.

Ok, you had the restricted Free Agency off-season his first year and he was handcuffed with what he could do. (tried for Vincent Jackson but a no go) Sure he made a mistake with McNabb, but he also drafted a key part to the OL.

Second year during off-season is the lockout. He bolstered the defense considerable through the draft and free agency.

No QBs were on the market, and obviously none in the draft he deemed worthy of selecting at the spot we were at. (many teams reached) He turned the few picks we had into a masterful draft (even if they don't all pan out).

You can't turn shit into sugar my friend. Give the guy time and a chance to get more players in here with value.

Also, we've been hit hard with injuries, and our depth just isn't cutting it right now.[/quote]

As I've repeatedly stated, I didn't expect a SB/playoff/winning record caliber team. But ever since the Giants game, the playing attitude of this team has been pretty poor. Also, the McNabb trade was a pretty big mistake and it probably set the team back a year or more in rebuilding.

Once again, for as much sh*t people talk about MS and how great he is, I would expect for this team to put up at least a fight. They haven't period. I hope it changes.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=hooskins;854028]Sure it is. And they are not doing their part.

But the buck stops with the FO and coaching. Just like in any other organization or company. The culture at the Skins right now is not a professional one nor is it a winning one.[/quote]

Agreed. It seems that fans seem to feel that the buck stops with the front office only when it comes to matters like the Haynesworth situation or whenever a player runs their mouth. But when it comes to actual performance on the field, everything seems to be focused 100% on the players. The players have to do their part and they are not. But so do the coaches. Right now both the coaches, players, and team leadership are not doing a good job.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

The D is not bad by any means, they are much improved. The problem lately seems to be that they can't stop the running game, Bowen and Cofield have banished, the DB's suck!! That's the weakness. Hall, Wilson, Barnes are bad.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

The problem with the D is that our current FO/coaching staff has not been able to put an offense decent enough to compliment the defense. This defense is not going to win games by itself, the offense needs to do something, but they don't.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=hooskins;854028]Sure it is. And they are not doing their part.

[B]But the buck stops with the FO and coaching. [/B]Just like in any other organization or company. The culture at the Skins right now is not a professional one nor is it a winning one.[/quote]

I'm a supporter of Shanahan -- still. Even now when things are pretty low. I think he needs minimum three offseasons before we can start making permanent judgements about his final product. That said, I'm certain that I, and other defenders of Shanny will have our work cut out for us if the team doesn't match last year's win total.

Things are bad, no doubt. But if some of us had our way, and we were ready to boot the FO and the coaches after one and a half seasons because the team has hit a rough patch, then this franchise is doomed for all time.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;853831]The bills had 6 sacks total this year. They had 6 in the game (maybe more)...that says enough right there. Beck is NOT our future QB. Defense, played awful in the run game, which is what their known for is being good at stopping the run...not today![/quote]

we knew he wasn't our future when we signed him though. I just don't understand why so anxious to see the upside of a 30 year old that's been passed over 2 or 3 times by QB hungry teams and couldn't find a way onto the field.

not that this loss was his fault, but he sure didn't help.

It's just such a boring product. ESPN doesn't ever talk about us. Even when we get crushed, they don't even give us the respect of ripping us. Because we've been boring for 10 years. They just spent 30 minutes talking about a losing qb who was projected to be bad, on a bad team, that got crushed. How's that a compelling story? But it is. Tebow sucking is more exciting than the decline of our great franchise. Please let us be good by the time my unborn kids are old enough to care.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=hooskins;854028]Sure it is. And they are not doing their part.

But the buck stops with the FO and coaching. Just like in any other organization or company. [B]The culture at the Skins right now is not a professional one [/B]nor is it a winning one.[/quote]

I strongly disagree with your contention that the Redskins culture is not professional. I've seen no indication at all of an unprofessional culture under MS and BA. Quite the contrary, IMO.

Also, the rebuild of this team will take years. I said before the season started that I would be very satisfied with an 8-8 record this season. I still feel that way.

This past offseason, free agency was devoted to acquiring some needed pieces - primarily for the defense. The focus wasn't on stars or big names but on good, solid players. We also made two trades that helped us some on offense.

In the draft, we acquired two players who could become stars in the first two rounds. We also added some players who could turn out to be pretty good in time.

In short, we had a good offseason. There was no possible way that the Skins could overcome many years of incompetent player acquisition in just one year.

I think we need two more good FA periods, two more good drafts and some luck before we can hope to be contenders. I say we need some luck because we are going to have to land a franchise QB, and a true #1 WR, at a minimum, among those new players to get where we need to be. We need some stars on offense.

I think it is important to stay the course with Shanny and Bruce. I really can't see where they've gone wrong, so far.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=skinsfan69;853891]Yeah but who's going to be in charge of picking the QB? Cause right now, I simply don't trust the Shanahan's when it comes to picking a qb.[/quote]

The problem is OL depth. That was never fully addressed in the offseason.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

Shanahan better have a great press conference. His approval rating is at an all-time low.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

This team sucks plain and simple they are boring as **** with no playmakers, id rather go 3-13 with a good offense (Carolina) then 5-11 with our team YUCK

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=Mattyk;853812]Good evening, SS has the night off.

Wow, what really needs to be said here?

I'm smacking down the entire team and organization. Just a piss poor performance all around.

We could seriously be looking at a top 10 pick in April. Unbelievable.[/quote]


I love it. Short and sweet. Lol.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=Beemnseven;854042]I'm a supporter of Shanahan -- still. Even now when things are pretty low. I think he needs minimum three offseasons before we can start making permanent judgements about his final product. That said, I'm certain that I, and other defenders of Shanny will have our work cut out for us if the team doesn't match last year's win total.

Things are bad, no doubt. But if some of us had our way, and we were ready to boot the FO and the coaches after one and a half seasons because the team has hit a rough patch, then this franchise is doomed for all time.[/quote]

I'm not ready to boot the group and start over just yet. I'm so tired of the "it's not working lets start over" after every two years. I'd still give MS his 5 years. Honestly no HC was going to fix this ship wreck over night. The team looks better. But MS needs more of his type of players to include a more accurate QB.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;854052]I strongly disagree with your contention that the Redskins culture is not professional. [B]I've seen no indication at all of an unprofessional culture under MS and BA.[/B] Quite the contrary, IMO.[/quote]

Well, they were unprofessional yesterday, but you're correct. One shutout doesn't represent the whole of your operation. Now, if the shutouts keep coming then we seriously have a problem.

[quote=KI Skins Fan]I think it is important to stay the course with Shanny and Bruce. I really can't see where they've gone wrong, so far.[/quote]

They've made some wrong decisions to be sure. McNabb was the biggest, and that set us back quite a bit. No excuses for that one. And if you see other teams stepping up and turning the corner quicker than we are, people are justified in asking "what about us -- why don't we have some playmakers in year two of this program?"

But yes, we have to stick it out with Allen and Shanny. You can't possibly have a situation where Vinny Cerrato gets a pass and hangs around for 10 years but these guys are 2 seasons and out. That's just crazy talk.

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Beck sucks, lets get the obvious out of the way. The offensive line didn't help him much today, but man he was just horrible yesterday. Holding on to the ball too long, missing open receivers, badly over throwing receivers on deep balls, throwing into bad coverages. With that being said, I have been a supporter of keeping Rex as the starter since this whole John Beck thing started. You dont bench your starting QB when you are 3-2, or even halfway through a game when your 3-1. It just sends the wrong message to your team that the winning record isn't what it is. Yes the offense struggled, but the last two weeks it seems as though the defense is really pressing and inturn giving up a lot of big plays. I think it sent a message to the entire team, and not a good one. The D gave up yards to and points to philly, but really shut them down the 2nd half. When Beck was named starter, we can't stop anyone. What ever the reason it seems to have had a negative impact on the D.

Now, how do you go back to Rex?? Or i guess in Mikes case, you dont unless you say that Beck has some sort of injury or is out of shape, or lazy, or refuses to wear a wrist band. I am sure he can come up with something.

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[quote=SBXVII;854064]I'm not ready to boot the group and start over just yet. I'm so tired of the "it's not working lets start over" after every two years. I'd still give MS his 5 years. Honestly no HC was going to fix this ship wreck over night. The team looks better. But MS needs more of his type of players to include a more accurate QB.[/quote]

Exactly right. It'll become more clear as the season goes on, (if it's not clear already) that this roster was more horrific than any of us ever imagined. He might need every bit of 5 years to right this ship, and I hope he has that long with Lil' Danny.

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[quote=Beemnseven;854068]Exactly right. It'll become more clear as the season goes on, (if it's not clear already) that this roster was more horrific than any of us ever imagined. He might need every bit of 5 years to right this ship, and I hope he has that long with Lil' Danny.[/quote]

This ship has been sinking for over a decade now so he is going to need at least 5 years to right this ship.

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[quote=Mattyk;853812]Good evening, SS has the night off.

Wow, what really needs to be said here?

I'm smacking down the entire team and organization. Just a piss poor performance all around.

We could [B][U]seriously be looking at a top 10 pick in April[/U][/B]. Unbelievable.[/quote]

And the last 3 games didnt tell you that. Great breakdown. Congrats Redskins you gave the faithfull 2 weeks this year to get their hopes up, you gave us 1 last year, next year maybe 3. Keep rebuilding things are looking great Playoffs by 2020!! BTW thanks for showing of Canadian friends up north what a crappy organization looks like, im sure we'll get the Europe game next year, so you can show the world "This is how you dont do it" !!!!!!!

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[quote=diehard;854058]The problem is OL depth. That was never fully addressed in the offseason.[/quote]

Absolutely correct. Some quality players on the O-Line would even help the defense stay off the field by keeping the offense on the field. In hindsight Christian Ponder would have been a great pick if we could have pulled that off but Ryan Kerrigan was a fantastic pick.

After years of wasting picks this is the position we put ourselves in. I think it's going to take at least 2 more drafts just like the one we had and maybe 3 including heavy free agency participation to get where we can compete for the title.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

Skins didnt want Ponder or gabbert obviously so Kerrigan was a great pick IMO

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

I just read through these posts quickly and wanted to say a few things.

1) I am hoping we don't get rid of MS. What we need in this organization is some freaking consistency! If we keep changing coaches every two years we will never improve.

2) I dont think anyone on this board ever thought that we had our Qb of the future on the team this year. Everyone seemed okay with BA/MS's plan not to draft a QB last year as it got us Kerrigan and a ton of extra picks. We just have to remember they do have a plan!

3) So I am going to take a few deep breaths and remember that none of us thought we would be very good this year anyway. So I am going to start watching the games from a standpoint of looking for improvement in the players listed below. I think in the end I will start enjoying my Sundays alot more.

Kerrigan
Orakpo
Austin
Paul
Hankerson
Davis
Helu
Carriker

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

A lot of people seem to believe, and these are people I don't have any reason to doubt, that if Locker was there at 10 we would have taken him.

As you may recall, I was a big proponent of drafting Locker last year. And more importantly a big proponent of drafting at least one QB. But, even though we didn't I thought we made some good acquisitions and this will take time.

As I said, I didn't watch any of yesterday's games so I can't really comment on it. I think overall though we are being decimated by injuries. And yes every team has to deal with them, but most don't really deal with them well. What the Packers did last year was the exception, not at all the norm.

I also think there is talent here that's not being used right. I don't know who is to blame, but it sure seems like Helu could use more touches. And that Austin should get the ball thrown to him more.

And as for Beck, you guys know I was never really on the Beckwagon but once he was named our starter I was certainly rooting for him. And to hear, as I did yesterday, that Beck "gave up"...is disconcerting to say the least

It's been a tough stretch for sure. And yesterday's game, by all indications was an embarassment. Now's the time to see if this team (regardless of the fans, because they don't really matter here) is prepared to fight through this or will they just roll over as we've seen in years past?

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[quote=SmootSmack;854108].........
As I said, I didn't watch any of yesterday's games so I can't really comment on it. I think overall though we are being decimated by injuries. And yes every team has to deal with them, but most don't really deal with them well. What the Packers did last year was the exception, not at all the norm.
[/quote]

SS,yes you have injuries and yes all teams do ,your defense is solid.As with other teams that have lost full positions to injuries,whole D lines or all the corners....players have to step up and execute and coachs have to realize this and call a game that is to his teams abilities,yes you need a QB but I just don't think the Skins are as far away as some here think.

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[quote=SmootSmack;854108]A lot of people seem to believe, and these are people I don't have any reason to doubt, that if Locker was there at 10 we would have taken him.

As you may recall, I was a big proponent of drafting Locker last year. And more importantly a big proponent of drafting at least one QB. But, even though we didn't I thought we made some good acquisitions and this will take time.

As I said, I didn't watch any of yesterday's games so I can't really comment on it. I think overall though we are being decimated by injuries. And yes every team has to deal with them, but most don't really deal with them well. What the Packers did last year was the exception, not at all the norm.

I also think there is talent here that's not being used right. I don't know who is to blame, but it sure seems like Helu could use more touches. And that Austin should get the ball thrown to him more.

And as for Beck, you guys know I was never really on the Beckwagon but once he was named our starter I was certainly rooting for him. And to hear, as I did yesterday, that Beck "gave up"...is disconcerting to say the least

It's been a tough stretch for sure. And yesterday's game, by all indications was an embarassment. Now's the time to see if this team (regardless of the fans, because they don't really matter here) is prepared to fight through this or will they just roll over as we've seen in years past?[/quote]

Not buying the injures excuse. Every team has them and the better teams/organizations overcome them. The Eagles had O-line issues and they overcame them. Yesterday I saw a team that was outcoached. If your o-line is having trouble blocking a below average Bills d-line then make adjustments. Leave in more blockers, run some 3 step drops, run a screen or two, roll the pocket, run some quick hitting run plays...we did none of this yesterday!!!!! No adjustments!!!!!!!! You know where I'm going with this. Kyle needs to go. Yeah he can run an offense when everything is perfect for him. Most NFL OC's can. But what makes a really good OC is when a guy see's what he has and works a game plan or a system around that. See Jim Harbaugh, Chan Gailey and whoever the OC is for Carolina. I mean Jim Harbaugh is throwing passes to his O-linemen yesterday. Those guys can coach offense. Kyle can not, or can't when the chips are down. Oh yeah...Chad Rinehart is a starter on the Bills o-line! Ouch!

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Didn't watch any football yesterday but why was Harbaugh having his QB throwing to his offensive linemen? What sort of injuries did SF and Carolina have? What makes the Panthers' OC so great?

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack.....

I also think there is talent here that's not being used right. I don't know who is to blame, but it sure seems like Helu could use more touches. And that Austin should get the ball thrown to him more.

When the roster was being paired down to 53 we had more receivers than we knew what to do with, now, we can't do anything with the one's we have. The team is beset by so many problem areas that it's entire function is in chaos. Blocking has to improve for the runners to run, QB's to throw. Frustration was written all over Torain after evey carry yesterday and it won't improve for Helu or any other runner until conditions improve up front.

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[quote=SmootSmack;854118]Didn't watch any football yesterday but why was Harbaugh having his QB throwing to his offensive linemen? What sort of injuries did SF and Carolina have? What makes the Panthers' OC so great?[/quote]

Well it was on some short yardage plays where o-linemen were brought in as TE's and they made some big conversions by throwing to them. And you can just see that Carolina has molded their offense around Cam Newton by the playcalling and the formations. I don't know Carolina's or SF's injury situation. But I do know that the Eagles and Gaints had injuries to their o-line and it's not armageddon when it happens.

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[quote=Ruhskins;854032]My comparison was to the team before Shanahan. Our defense was sh*t last year, this year's defense is of course better than last year's.

It's funny that you say that people take a dump on the coaches, b/c I feel that fans at least, always seem to be quick to blame the players.

You are right, the results seem to be the same, but I also feel that the coaches seem to be repeating the same mistakes. We are almost at the half season mark, and it seems that in today's NFL anything can happen, but I just don't have much faith in our outlook for the rest of the season. I would like to see the team play with a sense of purpose though. As people have pointed out, it seems that the only people doing that today were [B]Fletcher, Rocca, and Davis[/B].[/quote]

I hate how people equate production with passion. I could think of a Phillip Daniels who probably played with unbelievable passion every time he got in the game, but maybe didn't produce.

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Where do we go from here? After getting blanked?

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

I just want to see guys get a chance to play.

I hate seeing different WR packages every down.
Everytime Niles Paul comes in we know it's a running play.
Austin and Armstrong on the same side? One guy is going to stretch the field the other is going to sit in coverage for a 8 yard gain on 3rd and 10.

Pick your best 3 WRs and play them the whole game unless they are tired or injured.
I think it's time to move on From Anthony Armstrong and Gaffney. We need to see if Hankerson, Austin and Paul can become quality players.
Everytime they send in a new WR package, they are telegraphing their plays.

The Shanahans are so cocky that they think they can telegraph their plays and still beat a defense.

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[quote=hooskins;854126]Where do we go from here? After getting blanked?[/quote]

Only place to go is up from here. Can't get much worse... can it?

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[quote=SmootSmack;854108]I also think there is talent here that's not being used right. I don't know who is to blame, but it sure seems like Helu could use more touches. And that Austin should get the ball thrown to him more. [/quote]

I got a feeling that Helu wasn't out there much after he failed to pickup a blind side blitz that got Beck sacked. He released and didn't even touch the incoming defender, but I'm going to speculate it was his pickup. Don't think I saw him the rest of the game.

We say that every year and seemingly it gets worst. It is hard to be a fan of this organization

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

Also, you kids still think we should be signing Laron Landry to a contract extension? ...lol


This quote about Landry pretty much sums it up for me.
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"I think instead of "beast" his new nickname should be "The magician." Because more often then not he's a disappearing act."[/I]