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[quote=irish;499719]
Dont get me wrong, I dont think that the only reason Gibbs came back was to get $ for his race team but I do think the $ was a major factor in his return to coaching.
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If that is true, why do you believe he left with a year remaining and 5m on his contract?

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[quote=brown sugar/aka/chocolate;499637]the skins seem to be doing much better with out the both of them [/quote]

I dont think you can really claim the Skins would be much worse off at this point if Gibbs was still coach...our scoring is ranked low as it was last year plus we've had a healthy Oline for the most part.

Didn't we win like our last 5 out of 6 with Gibbs?

On the other hand...I don't think Lavar ever saw the post-season

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[quote=saden1;499623]Oh get off your self-righteous pedestal. Let's not all act like it's all LaVar. Everyone is culpable in what went down. Snyder, Gibbs, Williams, and Dale Lindsey could have done things better, and seeing how Lindsey was fired for poor job performance I don't think you lot should be jumping on LaVar's throat like vampires. Clearly LaVar is still bitter but you guys don't seem too far behind.[/quote]

I don't think anyone hear is saying the skins were right in everything they did in the Lavar debockle. The anger toward Lavar is for publicly calling Gibbs a coward. First it's so far from the truth and second Gibbs would never do that to anyone for any reason.

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[quote=Hog1;499730]If that is true, why do you believe he left with a year remaining and 5m on his contract?[/quote]

Because of the illness in his family. I think it was his grand child.

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[quote=skinsfan69;499727]I agree with you. I think it was a factor too. But everyone is in it for the money. The NFL is big business. Joe Gibbs is a businessman and a very smart one. He got his extra sponsor with Fed Ex. If you ask me it was a smart as hell move on his part. But it's not like he was sitting around and working 8 hour days.[/quote]

I think a lot of fans on this site and all over redskin land have a hard time imagining that St. Joe would allow $ to ever factor into anything having to do with the redskins.

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Gibbs put his reputation on the line to come back to a team that was a complete mess, in no small part because talented players such as LaVar Arrington had no concept of putting team first, or leadership. Gibbs took the heat time and again and never said a bad word about any of his players in public (including Lavar) even when he could have called out his players. Gibbs (and others such as Williams) put in countless hours at the office and on the road to revive a sinking franchise while his 3-year old grandson was fighting for his life. There's no coward there.

So the people on this board side with Gibbs, that's how it should be. This is a Redskins' fan site and Joe Gibbs has done more for this franchise than Arrington ever hoped to accomplish. Arrington's career was, for all intents, a failure and he can blame others but he shouldn't forget to look in the mirror either. Gibbs has coached hundred of players in the NFL and Arrington is the only one who has said something bad about him. Maybe Arrington should think about that.

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[quote=SmootSmack;499740]Gibbs put his reputation on the line to come back to a team that was a complete mess, in no small part because talented players such as LaVar Arrington had no concept of putting team first, or leadership. Gibbs took the heat time and again and never said a bad word about any of his players in public (including Lavar) even when he could have called out his players. Gibbs (and others such as Williams) put in countless hours at the office and on the road to revive a sinking franchise while his 3-year old grandson was fighting for his life. There's no coward there.

So the people on this board side with Gibbs, that's how it should be. This is a Redskins' fan site and Joe Gibbs has done more for this franchise than Arrington ever hoped to accomplish. Arrington's career was, for all intents, a failure and he can blame others but he shouldn't forget to look in the mirror either. Gibbs has coached hundred of players in the NFL and Arrington is the only one who has said something bad about him. Maybe Arrington should think about that.[/quote]

You summed things up perfectly.

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[quote=irish;499739]I think a lot of fans on this site and all over redskin land have a hard time imagining that St. Joe would allow $ to ever factor into anything having to do with the redskins.[/quote]
Do you have some previously unknown insider information you can share? Or is this just idle speculation on your part?

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WOW lavar you really hold a grudge don,t you..thanks for your very short career here in washington i,m glad you were able to stop by a bit.anyways.

joe gibbs the hall of fame coach 3 time superbowl champion/3 time nascar champion a true character guy who is truly loved by me and many other fans alike has a strong track record .lavar you had a once and a lifetime chance to play for one of the best coaches in football but you didn,t want that too happen so here you are and now you are paying for it and you know it as well too.did this organization do some injustice sure they did but lavar didn,t help himself either..so this leads me to this lavar the once proud linebacker from penn state who had all the talent in the world but nothing to show for it but for the lack of discipline on the field you need to be quiet and move on with your life just like we have and we are doing absolutely fabulous at the moment too. joe gibbs came back to the skins cause he saw a once proud organization in disarray and he came back to reserrect this organization to where it is now and thats on the winning side of things now....joe gibbs is the head chief in charge of this organization and he saw what was going on inspite of knowing he was set with his family and grandkids with his raceteam...he indeed took a chance on his name and legacy to come back and to give back to this organization what it truly needed and that was direction within...and from himself...so lavar again please can it will ya.. move on..on a sidenote not to mention that the ST situation here was tough to say the least and joe gibbs was there for us and the team and it showed..

thanks and i,ll get off my soapbox now..

just my 2cents worth

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[quote=SmootSmack;499740]Gibbs put his reputation on the line to come back to a team that was a complete mess, in no small part because talented players such as LaVar Arrington had no concept of putting team first, or leadership. Gibbs took the heat time and again and never said a bad word about any of his players in public (including Lavar) even when he could have called out his players. Gibbs (and others such as Williams) put in countless hours at the office and on the road to revive a sinking franchise while his 3-year old grandson was fighting for his life. There's no coward there.

So the people on this board side with Gibbs, that's how it should be. This is a Redskins' fan site and Joe Gibbs has done more for this franchise than Arrington ever hoped to accomplish. Arrington's career was, for all intents, a failure and he can blame others but he shouldn't forget to look in the mirror either. Gibbs has coached hundred of players in the NFL and Arrington is the only one who has said something bad about him. Maybe Arrington should think about that.[/quote]
........WAIT, there is solid reason, wisdom and logic guiding our loyalty to Joe? It's not blind devotion to Saint Joe? How can that be?
IT IS SO MUCH MORE IN VOGUE, to back any nutjob that pops up with stupid negative stuff to get his name in the press.
Hell yah, let's just throw his useless old ass under the bus......because........we can!

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[quote=firstdown;499724]This thread has really gone over board. Ok, I get that people do not like what LA said about Gibbs and I understand that but all the other attacks are getting bad. Most bashing him here for his play on the field used words such as "BEAST" to describe his play on the field. A bunch of people here were ticketed that he was not on the field more often and spoke out against GW and the front office. Now the same people are using the words like OVERATED and such just to bash him some more. Now we have moved it to ST death and how LA felt about ST. Who knows maybe LA has tried to patch thing up with Snyder but maybe Snyder holds the grudge. Its not like we have never seen Snyder do that before.

CPAYNE5 you say you never heard LA say how close he was to ST in his speach but the little part I found it seem as he did.

LaVar:
[He started by speaking of how he is "guilty of moving on," in football, in life, not taking the time to look back.] "This situation has forced me to face those issues that sometimes you really don't want to face. You imagine that your boys and your loves ones are okay and always will be. Sean, I love you as my brother, as my friend ... the rest of my fellows and my teammates that I never took the opportunity to tell you how much I love you guys, this is the opportunity to do it. I'm going to miss him with all my heart. ... I thought when he came to the Redskins that I was his guardian angel. I know he was one of my guardian angels. He was there for me. Today, he's one of mine."
After a song, Sean's 14-year-old sister, Jazmin Taylor spoke through tears. "All I want to see is his smile again. He had the best smile in the world." ... and "I know he can hear me. I'm waiting to see you again, but I know you are home."[/quote]

That quote shows exactly what I'm talking about. He's speaking in generalities, and not specifics. It was in stark contrast to the other speakers that day. Go look at what Joe Gibbs, Buck Ortega, Clinton Portis, etc said that day. They were all very close to Sean and were there to honor him. They talked about specific events in their lives that Sean made brighter. LA did not. What he said was really no different that what anyone else was saying here on the Warpath. There was an outpouring of emotion here and on other boards, but none of us really knew Sean. LA didn't have much more to say about him than anyone else here did. To me, it just came across as very fake and very self serving. I accept that you may not agree with that. :)

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"I root for the Redskins because how I feel about the fans outweighs how the organization treated me. I always take pleasure in taking jabs at Dan because people like him need that. There's got to be a person out there who's not afraid to do it."

I love this part of the article. The funny thing is as fans we probably all liked him on some level but calling Gibbs a coward is a great way to get yourself blacklisted on capital hill.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;499764]"I root for the Redskins because how I feel about the fans outweighs how the organization treated me. I always take pleasure in taking jabs at Dan because people like him need that. There's got to be a person out there who's not afraid to do it."

I love this part of the article. The funny thing is as fans we probably all liked him on some level but calling Gibbs a coward is a great way to get yourself blacklisted on capital hill.[/quote]

Yeah, he was not very smart in saying the things he did. He could have been a very popular Redskins icon (possibly still will be) here in the DC area for a long time if he just chooses his words more carefully. Like someone else said, Sonny J has some very critical things to say about George Allen, but he's smart enough to not venture into that topic in a public setting. I don't know what to think of it. It's just kind of baffling to a certain extent.

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I don't get this NASCAR argument in the first place. The Joe Gibbs racing team wasn't struggling in any way when Gibbs came back to football. It was at the very least the fourth or fifth most powerful team in NASCAR when he came out of retirement. They were on a level to compete for the Cup championship on a yearly basis and there are only a handful of teams that are on that level. The Gibbs racing team had won Championships before Gibbs came back to football. Tony Stewart and the Home Depot team won the whole thing the year after Gibbs came back to the Redskins.

I'm not saying the Gibbs racing team didn't benefit from the new Fed Ex sponsorship and the extra 5 million a year in cash Gibbs was pulling in, but I promise you that one of the reasons Gibbs came back to football was because he knew that he had his NASCAR house in very good order and wouldn't have to worry about it so he could focus on football.

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[quote=Hog1;499753]Do you have some previously unknown insider information you can share? Or is this just idle speculation on your part?[/quote]

It is a hypothesis.

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[quote=cpayne5;499766]Yeah, he was not very smart in saying the things he did. He could have been a very popular Redskins icon (possibly still will be) here in the DC area for a long time if he just chooses his words more carefully. Like someone else said, Sonny J has some very critical things to say about George Allen, but he's smart enough to not venture into that topic in a public setting. I don't know what to think of it. [B]It's just kind of baffling to a certain extent[/B].[/quote]

I think it confirms what we may already know about LaVar, he's got a touch of crazy in him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;499740]Gibbs put his reputation on the line to come back to a team that was a complete mess, in no small part because talented players such as LaVar Arrington had no concept of putting team first, or leadership. Gibbs took the heat time and again and never said a bad word about any of his players in public (including Lavar) even when he could have called out his players. Gibbs (and others such as Williams) put in countless hours at the office and on the road to revive a sinking franchise while his 3-year old grandson was fighting for his life. There's no coward there.

So the people on this board side with Gibbs, that's how it should be. This is a Redskins' fan site and Joe Gibbs has done more for this franchise than Arrington ever hoped to accomplish. Arrington's career was, for all intents, a failure and he can blame others but he shouldn't forget to look in the mirror either. Gibbs has coached hundred of players in the NFL and Arrington is the only one who has said something bad about him. Maybe Arrington should think about that.[/quote]


[B]BULLSEYE!![/B]

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[quote=irish;499774]It is a hypothesis.[/quote]
got it

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Lavar Arrington has never been a contender for "Mr. Congeniality" wherever he has been - - all the way back to his days at Penn State. His tenure here with the Skins included some bizarre statements and actions not the least of which was the grievance over his contract extension that neither he nor his agent seems to have bothered to read.

But even the blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

It always seemed to me that Joe Gibbs 2.0 was at least as much about the money going into the Joe Gibbs bank account as it was about winning football games in DC. So, maybe Arrington has a point there...

Nonetheless, this has nothing whatsoever to do with Joe Gibbs being a "coward". That assertion - and the one about how he might have flourished in Gregg Williams' defense - just make no sense at all.

But as to money being a huge motivation for Gibbs return to the sidelines ...

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[quote=EternalEnigma21;499505]Pretty dumb move for business. How many times is this guy going to commit career suicide? I liked him when he was playing and often he was the only thing worth watching on our team, but he has mental issues borderline TO.[/quote]

couldnt agree more........i love the guy but please stop talking bad about a good guy in joe gibbs and two the orginzation that we cheer for man....i mean people like teams more that players man, realize that please.......we all know lavar feels cheated but there aint shit we can say or do about it now lavar. you arent going to start a movement man, just decline the F-ing interview for gods sake. but i still love you 56, but shut up.

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"I always said — even when I played there — if we could ever get this guy to play within the scheme, study, and be a professional, he probably could be the most dangerous player in the league," Trotter said.

Arrington told the Times that Penn State coach Joe Paterno was responsible for the freelancer tag.

"Joe Paterno started the whole thing of me being a freelancer and it has continued through my whole career unwarranted," Arrington said. "I've been called a freelancer doing what I was asked to do. If I ran into any gap I wanted, how long would you keep me in the game?

(Former defensive coordinator) Marvin Lewis said, 'LaVar ran around like a chicken with his head cut off until I got here.' But I made a Pro Bowl before he got here."

Where there's smoke there's fire, generally. Three separate players/coaches all say the same thing. You know that x-girlfriend that always seemed to be in a crisis...that's LA.

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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon;499800]It always seemed to me that Joe Gibbs 2.0 was at least as much about the money going into the Joe Gibbs bank account as it was about winning football games in DC. So, maybe Arrington has a point there...QUOTE]

If that is the case then why did he leave 5 mil and a possible extension worth 20+ more millions on the table last year? It seems to me that someone in it for the money would not have turned down that kind of cash. Joe Gibbs turned down countless opportunities to return to coaching over the years and only came back when the Redskins asked him too.

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[quote=celts32;499846][quote=sportscurmudgeon;499800]It always seemed to me that Joe Gibbs 2.0 was at least as much about the money going into the Joe Gibbs bank account as it was about winning football games in DC. So, maybe Arrington has a point there...QUOTE]

If that is the case then why did he leave 5 mil and a possible extension worth 20+ more millions on the table last year? It seems to me that someone in it for the money would not have turned down that kind of cash. [B]Joe Gibbs turned down countless opportunities to return to coaching over the years and only came back when the Redskins asked him too[/B].[/quote]

Good point. He could have returned at any point during his 11 year layoff and there would have been countless teams waving blank checks in front of him.

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[quote=Mattyk72;499780]I think it confirms what we may already know about LaVar, he's got a touch of crazy in him.[/quote]



Matty sounds like to me he has a bit of the stupid in him,.....I wonder how well he knows Tiki?:)

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[quote=Mattyk72;499850][quote=celts32;499846]

Good point. He could have returned at any point during his 11 year layoff and there would have been countless teams waving blank checks in front of him.[/quote]

Exactly...and he's friends with Arthur Blank of the Falcons and he tried to hire him for years. Joe Gibbs return to the Redskins had very little to do with money. I guess if you want to you could criticise Joe Gibbs 2.0 the coach...but Joe Gibbs character and integrity as a man could never be questioned.

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[quote=celts32;499846][quote=sportscurmudgeon;499800]It always seemed to me that Joe Gibbs 2.0 was at least as much about the money going into the Joe Gibbs bank account as it was about winning football games in DC. So, maybe Arrington has a point there...QUOTE]

If that is the case then why did he leave 5 mil and a possible extension worth 20+ more millions on the table last year? It seems to me that someone in it for the money would not have turned down that kind of cash. Joe Gibbs turned down countless opportunities to return to coaching over the years and only came back when the Redskins asked him too.[/quote]
YES! You are correct

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I think the money was the final factor that drew Gibbs back out of retirement. I'm sure 1 or 2 million and Gibbs would have never left his racing team, 3 million HMMMM, 4 to 5 By George Snyder we have a deal and then he lets out that quirky laugh.

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[quote=SmootSmack;499740]Gibbs put his reputation on the line to come back to a team that was a complete mess, in no small part because talented players such as LaVar Arrington had no concept of putting team first, or leadership. Gibbs took the heat time and again and never said a bad word about any of his players in public (including Lavar) even when he could have called out his players. Gibbs (and others such as Williams) put in countless hours at the office and on the road to revive a sinking franchise while his 3-year old grandson was fighting for his life. There's no coward there.

So the people on this board side with Gibbs, that's how it should be. This is a Redskins' fan site and Joe Gibbs has done more for this franchise than Arrington ever hoped to accomplish. Arrington's career was, for all intents, a failure and he can blame others but he shouldn't forget to look in the mirror either. Gibbs has coached hundred of players in the NFL and Arrington is the only one who has said something bad about him. Maybe Arrington should think about that.[/quote]
Great post! Extremely wrong and stupid comment by LA.

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[quote=GMScud;499544]But was anyone here saying "fu*k him" and cursing his career and life while he was playing well for us? Smarten up people. Don't be so fairweather and shortsighted.

Did anyone here think LaVar was a pathetic joke loser when he was crying while giving a speech at Sean Taylor's funeral? Or making pro-bowls for us?
[/quote]

Of course not, but when you turn up an ass the next day, Redskin fans - any fans - will call you on it. It's our job.

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My opinion (if it could be seen by any of you without being blocked), he couldn't have screwed himself more with those comments. He's a face in DC, and someone we've grown to love and respect over time. So don't talk bad about Gibbs who is a GOD in DC. Stupid, stupid, stupid... bad move LaVar.

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You know, I had a response going, but realized I'm no good in this thread. After sitting through 4 Super Bowls and 12 years of mind-blowing, pre-Levar, fandom, i can't offer up reason here. I'd drive Joe's white Bronco if he ever called in a jam.

alright, I'll sit down now. peace out.

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Pretty good take on this here:

[URL="http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-5-73/From-our-sour-grapes-department.html"]Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley[/URL]

Thanks for your patience today while I was flying home from the mothership in Bristol. In trying to play catch up, the NFC Beast came across this LaVar Arrington story in the Washington Times.

Arrington was kind enough to wait until Cowboys week to publicly rip his former coach, Joe Gibbs, and Redskins owner Dan Snyder. The former Redskins linebacker left the organization in Feb. 2006, and apparently he's been needing to get some things off his chest.

"I called Joe Gibbs a coward for leaving," Arrington told the Times. "You came in, you made some money for your NASCAR team. No one else is going to say that. I'm sure more people thought I was a [jerk] for saying that. Joe wouldn't call me because he knows. There are a lot of people who know the truth about what went down with me and the Redskins."

LaVar, maybe no one else is willing to say it because they don't want to sound like a complete idiot. Gibbs said he was walking away from football after the 2007 season, in part, because he wanted to spend more time with his sick grandson. Call me gullible, but I'm going to take Gibbs' word on this one. I think Sean Taylor's death and the subsequent playoff run had a draining effect on him, and he didn't have the energy anymore. And that's why "coward" is the last word I'd use to describe him.

I feel bad for Arrington that his promising career was cut short by an injury. But to say those types of things about one of the most respected men in the history of the league is gutless.

But Arrington didn't stop there. He's also upset that Snyder didn't make enough small talk with him at a team event.

"I think Dan Snyder is scared to death of me," said Arrington. "He won't look at me. I tried to shake his hand at a luncheon. He shook my hand and was like, 'How you doing, LaVar?' and kept moving. I'm probably the only person that's ever stood up to him and never backed down."

Folks, let's take a moment to praise this brave, brave man for not backing down to Snyder. What a joke.

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[quote=Mattyk72;499923]Pretty good take on this here:

[URL="http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-5-73/From-our-sour-grapes-department.html"]Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley[/URL]

Thanks for your patience today while I was flying home from the mothership in Bristol. In trying to play catch up, the NFC Beast came across this LaVar Arrington story in the Washington Times.

Arrington was kind enough to wait until Cowboys week to publicly rip his former coach, Joe Gibbs, and Redskins owner Dan Snyder. The former Redskins linebacker left the organization in Feb. 2006, and apparently he's been needing to get some things off his chest.

"I called Joe Gibbs a coward for leaving," Arrington told the Times. "You came in, you made some money for your NASCAR team. No one else is going to say that. I'm sure more people thought I was a [jerk] for saying that. Joe wouldn't call me because he knows. There are a lot of people who know the truth about what went down with me and the Redskins."

LaVar, maybe no one else is willing to say it because they don't want to sound like a complete idiot. Gibbs said he was walking away from football after the 2007 season, in part, because he wanted to spend more time with his sick grandson. Call me gullible, but I'm going to take Gibbs' word on this one. I think Sean Taylor's death and the subsequent playoff run had a draining effect on him, and he didn't have the energy anymore. And that's why "coward" is the last word I'd use to describe him.

I feel bad for Arrington that his promising career was cut short by an injury. But to say those types of things about one of the most respected men in the history of the league is gutless.

But Arrington didn't stop there. He's also upset that Snyder didn't make enough small talk with him at a team event.

"I think Dan Snyder is scared to death of me," said Arrington. "He won't look at me. I tried to shake his hand at a luncheon. He shook my hand and was like, 'How you doing, LaVar?' and kept moving. I'm probably the only person that's ever stood up to him and never backed down."

Folks, let's take a moment to praise this brave, brave man for not backing down to Snyder. What a joke.[/quote]

I loved Arrington as a Redskin, but his ability to revise history is remarkable. Not only did he back down to Snyder, to the tune of $4 million to get his release, but he also got jerked out of a $6.5 million bonus because of a mistake his agent made. Way to make your stand LaVar!

LaVar Arrington, where bitterness happens...

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[quote=firstdown;499503]Not sure if its all that. He did have a gripe with our front office which lead to him sitting on the bench and then to his trade. Its not all on Lavar and I could see how he has a beef with Gibbs who was the coach at the time this all went down. He had a motorcycle accident (which might have been dumb) but other than that its not like Lavar just threw his career away like maybe Pacman.[/quote]

Agreed. Gibbs isn't to blame for LaVar's career ending and really neither is Gregg Williams. LaVar should've played along with Gregg's scheme, but Gregg knew coming in that our star defensive player wasn't that type of guy. Would've loved to have seen the guy establish a longer career, but sometimes that's how the cookie crumbles. I know that he had a lot of love for the Washington area and the Redskins as a team and their fans, which is why he wanted to stay around the NFC East as well as base his businesses in the DC area.

I've got no bad blood with the guy, I'm not saying Gibbs is a coward for leaving, but as far as the sentiments on NASCAR, we saw Gibbs leave for it once, and we've seen him leave for it again. Granted he went through some shit this past time, it would've been great to see him stick around one more year for posterity's sake to make sure that the team kept an even keel.

Oh well, Gibbs is a legend regardless.

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Anyone who can find something dislikeable in Joe Gibbs obviously has something wrong with them.

I'm tired of hearing about Arrington, just stick to the postgame show on Comcast Lavar because you're not helping anyone when you open your mouth. Seriously.

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He has lost his mind.

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LA is nuts. He says Gibbs owes LA a bigger explanation than he owes Gibbs for his comments. Wow.

[YT]fSUW9yFL7_0[/YT]

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this is going no where

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Where are LeVar's restaurant(s)?

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Now Joe is Cowardly like.....? :doh:

One thing he says in his TV interview that has an ounce of truth for sure, I'm just a washed up athlete and he left out bitter! Moving on....he's a waste

His restaurant is in the hood and his ratings are accordingly....

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