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I want trying to pick on Mooby

My pint was weather you muss on a pick or don’t pick at all until you find your QB1 franchise guy you are set back

So in my opinion just keep buying those scratchers and pray

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[quote=mredskins;1355920]I want trying to pick on Mooby

My pint was weather you muss on a pick or don’t pick at all until you find your QB1 franchise guy you are set back

So in my opinion just keep buying those scratchers and pray[/quote]

I hope the sauce was good tonight mred.

We agree on this. Maybe I'm just jaded from years of mediocrity. Good teams draft good players no matter where they pick. Having a high pick makes it easier but is absolutely no guarantee of success.

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[quote=mooby;1355921]I hope the sauce was good tonight mred.

We agree on this. Maybe I'm just jaded from years of mediocrity. Good teams draft good players no matter where they pick. Having a high pick makes it easier but is absolutely no guarantee of success.[/quote]

Sauce?

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[quote=mredskins;1355922]Sauce?[/quote]

I think he was just making fun, you had a few typo's in your post he replied too.

Sauce = Booze lol

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Oh my typing ! I am 50 I can’t type on a phone, I 99% use a computer on here

Sorry for the typos

The apple keyboard loves to change shit or predict my sentence

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It seems like females have this lighting thumb texting down , I am one finger Fred poking in the dark like it’s prom night with my date

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[quote=mooby;1355873]We fuck up picking the wrong qb it will set this franchise back another 3-5 years. [/quote]

It won't set you back that far unless you trade a bunch of picks for said QB and it he fails. You should give most QBs 3 years to progress. If he's not progressing during those 3 years, then you move on to the next while still having a solid team and not having to pay the QB some crazy cap money.

You can still compete while your QB is learning. Hell, Purdy has that team as the #1 NFC seed and they call him a game manager. They would be in even better shape had they not traded good picks for a bust. That's why you don't do it.

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That's my biggest fear, that the new guys want to come in and make a show of it by trading up. This could be the RG3 scenario all over again.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1355932]That's my biggest fear, that the new guys want to come in and make a show of it by trading up. This could be the RG3 scenario all over again.[/quote]

not sure how many of you watch NBA but Harris and company started what was called the process in PHL

IT started with a trade of their best player at the time (Holiday); our biggest trade asset here is our draft picks

I wouldn't be shocked if he did something similar here

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_76ers#The_Process[/url]

[I]Harris began contemplating investing in sports after meeting senior Blackstone executive David Blitzer in 2008 at The Punchbowl, a public house in London.[37][38] Those talks led to the pair forming an investment group that bought the Philadelphia 76ers of the National Basketball Association (NBA) from Comcast Spectacor for $280 million in 2011.[39] Other initial members of the group included Art Wrubel, Jason Levien, Adam Aron, Martin Geller, David Heller, James Lassiter, Marc Leder, Michael Rubin, Will Smith, Jada Pinkett Smith, and Erick Thohir.[40][41] Harris presided over an era in 76ers history known as "The Process", in which the team tanked for better NBA draft lottery odds.[42][43] Agreeing to a plan formed by general manager Sam Hinkie, the 76ers went 19–63 during the 2013–14 season, 18–64 in 2014–15, and 10–72 in 2015–16, the latter being the third-worst record in NBA history.[34] The Process was unpopular with NBA executives and team owners, who lobbied league commissioner Adam Silver to step in due to the 76ers' poor performance affecting league revenue sharing.[44][45] Harris would eventually agree to a suggestion by Silver to hire Jerry Colangelo, former owner of the Phoenix Suns, as team chairman in December 2015, which led to Hinkie stepping down in April 2016.[44][46] The Process led to the 76ers drafting future NBA MVP Joel Embiid, with the team having made five straight postseason appearances starting with the 2017–18 season.[34] The 76ers were valuated at $4.13 billion by Sportico in 2023.[/I]

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[quote=mredskins;1355941]not sure how many of you watch NBA but Harris and company started what was called the process in PHL

IT started with a trade of their best player at the time (Holiday); our biggest trade asset here is our draft picks

I wouldn't be shocked if he did something similar here

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More likely that JA and TM get traded, certainly the former.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1355942]More likely that JA and TM get traded, certainly the former.[/quote]

current players are more valued in the nba then draft picks; its the reverse in the nfl

our top pick this year has more value then Allen or Terry


you prob get a 2nd for Allen and a 3rd for Terry; both had down years in their nfl careers this season

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1355887]SF blew it on Trey Lance, and they have still been able to field a high quality team. They got lucky with Purdy, and have competent individuals making personnel decisions though. That makes a difference.

That is also a perfect example though, of the "experts" not having it right. Trey Lance was highly touted, while Brock Purdy was an afterthought.[/QUOTE]


They also have competent coaches coaching him up. Purdy would still be an afterthought if he was drafted by us or several other teams. Couple that with the competent individuals making personnel decisions to put a team around him and boom. It is why GM is such an important decision for us going forward. He will hire the right coaches and put the right pieces around whoever our quarterback is.

Basically exactly what Mooby said.

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[quote=mredskins;1355924]Oh my typing ! I am 50 I can’t type on a phone, I 99% use a computer on here

Sorry for the typos

The apple keyboard loves to change shit or predict my sentence[/quote]

Wait you're 50 now??? That just made me feel old. I have been a member here for 17 years

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[quote=mredskins;1355941]not sure how many of you watch NBA but Harris and company started what was called the process in PHL

IT started with a trade of their best player at the time (Holiday); our biggest trade asset here is our draft picks

I wouldn't be shocked if he did something similar here [/quote]

So you're suggesting they're more likely to trade our picks for draft capital than trading up to #1?

Not sure it would have to be a slash and burn approach though. Even if they don't draft a top QB, it wouldn't need a hoard of picks to rebuild most of this roster. With cap space and the picks we do have, we could rebuild the OL and LB cadre, get a good DE and improve the secondary, plus probably add a good (great?) WR. Right coaching and we'd be competitive next year. They want revenue and the best way to do that is give the fans hope, not effectively tell them "another 2 years folks).

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1355932]That's my biggest fear, that the new guys want to come in and make a show of it by trading up. This could be the RG3 scenario all over again.[/quote]

QB above all else.

If a new GM thinks a trade up to grab their guy is necessary then just do it.