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[QUOTE=Ohioskins;1273681]I can remember a time when we could have said, "F***** RG3". So I think we need to let the dust settle a bit. It was one game. RG3 played an entire year at a very high level. But once NFL D coordinators have had whole off season to review tape and plan, the next chapter may not be so bright.



Clearly Heineke has earned the right to be brought back to compete for No. 1 QB next year. But beyond that, I think we need to wait and see what happens.[/QUOTE]



Except RG-3 was 90 percent legs that made him electric. I think Heineken can actually stand back there and throw from the pocket if given protection.

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[quote=punch it in;1273677]How is everyone saying his ceiling is Colt McCoy. Based on five quarters it is clearly higher. Again im not saying he is the quarterback of the future but he might be. [/quote]

Well there is Flutie, McCoy, and Brees.
Maybe Jeff Garcia.

McCoy had the big college career and some really good Pro games. I think that is a respectable and likely comparison.

It's time to stop putting Titos in your Kool-aid if you are thinking he is showing Drew Brees potential. Heinike has to earn that.

Colt Brennan Version 2.0

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Definitely wouldn't mention TH in the same breath as Brees but comparing him to Colt Brennan is just as dumb.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1273685]Well there is Flutie, McCoy, and Brees.

Maybe Jeff Garcia.



McCoy had the big college career and some really good Pro games. I think that is a respectable and likely comparison.



It's time to stop putting Titos in your Kool-aid if you are thinking he is showing Drew Brees potential. Heinike has to earn that.



Colt Brennan Version 2.0[/QUOTE]



McCoy had a big college career at Texas. Since when is ODU an nfl pipeline. Lol. Ive said numerous times he has to earn the starting job. Never compared him to a hall of famer. Lol. Im just betting on him being the guy at this point. Again time will tell.

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I understand the concerns about Heinicke's durability, and QB isn't a position you should feel certain after a game and a half anyway... But I'd be curious to see how he looks after a full offseason with access to an NFL facility. Remember he was in university in early December...

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[quote=punch it in;1273655][url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/taylor-heinicke-was-proud-himself-after-huge-performance-vs-tampa-bay[/url]
He popped his AC joint out on the dive. The not so EZ dive lol.[/quote]

Didn't hear them say anything at that point or see him struggling on the sideline. He only came out on the subsequent 3rd down sack and hadn't looked hurt to that point. Must have been toughing it out in between!

I really like him and want to see him back at least as #2, but his injury history is a worry, and popping your shoulder on an almost unopposed dive only reinforces that.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1273689]Didn't hear them say anything at that point or see him struggling on the sideline. He only came out on the subsequent 3rd down sack and hadn't looked hurt to that point. Must have been toughing it out in between!

I really like him and want to see him back at least as #2, but his injury history is a worry, and [B]popping your shoulder on an almost unopposed dive only reinforces that[/B].[/quote]

This is just plain wrong. When you play a sport that involves contact with other players and with the ground, there are times when a slight nudge can cause you to hit the ground differently than your body is naturally setting itself for. In basketball, I was forever turning my ankle either being bumped on the way down from a rebound, or my foot landing unexpectedly on someone's foot. In football, on a play like this, he is diving forward and his body is bracing for the landing. As he is bumped by the defenders, his body rotates slightly and he lands on his shoulder. This is how guys get hurt, and to pretend that it is somehow because his body is weak or soft is just wrong.

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[quote=Number44;1273699][B]This is just plain wrong.[/B] When you play a sport that involves contact with other players and with the ground, there are times when a slight nudge can cause you to hit the ground differently than your body is naturally setting itself for. In basketball, I was forever turning my ankle either being bumped on the way down from a rebound, or my foot landing unexpectedly on someone's foot. In football, on a play like this, he is diving forward and his body is bracing for the landing. As he is bumped by the defenders, his body rotates slightly and he lands on his shoulder. This is how guys get hurt, and to pretend that it is somehow because his body is weak or soft is just wrong.[/quote]

Maybe, but fact is he's played in what - three NFL games. Didn't finish the first two, and separated his shoulder in the third. Durability is a valid concern.

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The kid did a great job, and he should be invited to camp...to compete for the backup job, we still need a solid starter..and puleeeeeeeeeez stop with the Stafford talk...he's old we need someone younger for the long haul,I wouldn't mind a Sam Darnold or Mitch Travinski.

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Stafford is 32, hardly old by QB standards. He could easily have 5+ seasons left of high quality ball.

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[quote=MTK;1273724]Stafford is 32, hardly old by QB standards. He could easily have 5+ seasons left of high quality ball.[/quote]

Exactly and he's been damn good on a shitty team every yr.

Darnold and Mitch suck ass.. No thanks

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I wouldn't even consider castoffs like Darnold or Trabisky, might as well go with Allen and Heinicke. Get a true QB1 in here along with a few more pieces on both sides of the ball and this team is ready to compete.

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Not bad for your only start of the year and only second since you graduated college in 2014 . . . (from PFF)

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[QUOTE=Burgold;1273722]The kid did a great job, and he should be invited to camp...to compete for the backup job, we still need a solid starter..and puleeeeeeeeeez stop with the Stafford talk...he's old we need someone younger for the long haul,I wouldn't mind a Sam Darnold or Mitch Travinski.[/QUOTE]



So he should not even be considered as a starter? That seems a little harsh.
Also I agree with Matty and Okie - Stafford is not old. He would put us in contention for winning a super bowl if we draft right and acquire a couple other key free agents.

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[QUOTE=SkinsGuru;1273731]Not bad for your only start of the year and only second since you graduated college in 2014 . . . (from PFF)



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Yeah pretty good for a possible backup. [emoji849]