Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

The Panthers have 5 QBs on their roster. They likely would have cut Allen or Will Greir if we had just waited.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=Chico23231;1247761]I don’t see this a threat unlike Cam or Jameis...those were true threats.

This is the right competition and I think pushes Haskins to prepare.

I don’t view Allen as a starter over Haskins potential.[/quote]

We have to have a backup QB. Not worried about the competition. But the pick is too high especially considering we already don't have a 2nd. I just don't get it. We could sign a veteran FA, a bunch of UDFA guys to compete for the backup spot or use a 7th rounder.

We now don't have selections in 3 rounds of the draft. Easily the worst move of the offseason.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1247757]Backup QBs are taken ALL THE TIME in rounds 5-7. Nothing wrong with this...[/quote]

When you draft a backup QB in rounds 5-7, you have that player on a cheap rookie contract for 4 years. This is the last year of Allen's rookie deal. Next year he either walks or we have to pay him decent backup money.

we have a had a HIGH fifth round pick - this was way too much for Allen. Should have been one of the 7ths.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1247767]The Panthers have 5 QBs on their roster. They likely would have cut Allen or Will Greir if we had just waited.[/quote]

Skins are getting clowned on twitter.. "Just traded for a guy that wouldn't have beat out a XFL QB"

Sad

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1247769]When you draft a backup QB in rounds 5-7, you have that player on a cheap rookie contract for 4 years. This is the last year of Allen's rookie deal. Next year he either walks or we have to pay him decent backup money.

we have a had a HIGH fifth round pick - this was way too much for Allen. Should have been one of the 7ths.[/quote]

He wasn't even drafted. He just signed a 1 year deal after the season.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

This is why HCs can't be the general manager. Need a non biased professional GM.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1247770]Skins are getting clowned on twitter.. "Just traded for a guy that wouldn't have beat out a XFL QB"

Sad[/quote]

We should be. This is just fucking stupid.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

Remember...we could have a short camp. having someone who knows the system could provide help

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

Oh well, we'll see what the draft holds but this was a big surprise IMO

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

585k is cheaper than what we would probably have to pay if he was released and teams were able to bid on him. so we give up some draft capital but maybe save a mil or so in cap this year.

thats if we use our cap money. seems like every year we dont use all of our cap and just roll it over. which im fine with bc iot makes next year a better year for us to add pieces and be a competitive football team.

10.8 million was rolled over from last years unused cap. I get being smart, rolling over cap ... but at some point do we fully commit to going all in on winning?

when do we say, this is the year we go 100% to winning?

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

I wouldn't mind so much if we had a bunch of extra picks, but we have few to start with and it seems likely we were bidding against ourselves

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

Maybe we can trade a 4th for their water boy. Heard he's hitting mouths from 10 feet out.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1247773]This is why HCs can't be the general manager. Need a non biased professional GM.[/quote]

dude .. its a 5th rounder for a 24 year old QB who has already played 12 games in the NFL and our new HC and OC seem to like.

if it was a 6th, everyone would be fine with it.

give RR a little more patience and leway then immediately condemning him.

its a 5th rounder ffs. good lord

besides we do have a GM in Smith

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=SunnySide;1247777]585k is cheaper than what we would probably have to pay if he was released and teams were able to bid on him. so we give up some draft capital but maybe save a mil or so in cap this year.

thats if we use our cap money. seems like every year we dont use all of our cap and just roll it over. which im fine with bc iot makes next year a better year for us to add pieces and be a competitive football team.

10.8 million was rolled over from last years unused cap. I get being smart, rolling over cap ... but at some point do we fully commit to going all in on winning?

when do we say, this is the year we go 100% to winning?[/quote]

Drafting chase young isn't going to make us a winner right now, I'd just stock up on picks and add more talent

Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

Not surprised by this move. With the possibility of a shortened offseason we need someone in the building that knows the system.

Don’t hate this move at all.

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