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[quote=sandtrapjack;1228294]Zeke busting through and meeting Ionnaidis head on:

[url]https://twitter.com/GrantLiffmann/status/1168726992977420288?s=20[/url][/quote]

That didn't go so well last time:

[url]https://dailysnark.com/watch-ezekiel-elliott-get-thrown-like-a-rag-doll-five-yards-backwards-trying-to-make-a-block-video/[/url]

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;1228294]Zeke busting through and meeting Ionnaidis head on:



[url]https://twitter.com/GrantLiffmann/status/1168726992977420288?s=20[/url][/QUOTE]That would be funny if Ionnaidis hadnt already picked Zeke up like a fluffy teddy bear in last years game.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1228299]That would be funny if Ionnaidis hadnt already picked Zeke up like a fluffy teddy bear in last years game.

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It was funny......c'mon...admit it.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1228299]That would be funny if Ionnaidis hadnt already picked Zeke up like a fluffy teddy bear in last years game.

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I remember that game! Zeke ran for something like 126 yards.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;1228304]I remember that game! Zeke ran for something like 126 yards.[/QUOTE]Do you remember week 7 when he ran for 33yds on 15 carries?

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I'm going with 7-9 at BEST. The offense is still going to be a hot mess, and I'm certainly not sold on the linebacker nor backs on our defense. Our DL should be something else to watch though. If we win, it's going to come on their backs.


I won't be surprised if we end up with 5-6 wins though, and most likely will if we have any significant injuries.



[quote=CRedskinsRule;1227893]I have to ask, who thinks we are going to win 5 or less???? Gruden has shown he's a middle of the pack coach, and we have upper middle defensive talent. I can't imagine this team actually losing 11 or more games.[/quote]

Jay has had a decent QB too. Not so much anymore.

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Yall crazy. 7 wins? We'll be lucky to win 3 games behind that O Line. We will be picking top 5 in the draft next year, bank on that.

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[QUOTE=JGisLordOfTheRings;1228335]Yall crazy. 7 wins? We'll be lucky to win 3 games behind that O Line. We will be picking top 5 in the draft next year, bank on that.[/QUOTE]We as Redskins fans have been spoiled in one aspect of football for the past 30 years.
LT
From the Hogs, to Lachey to Samuels to Williams we have had a near nonstop top tier LT protecting our QBs. Other teams have won far more with far less lines. Green Bay comes to mind off the top.

Not saying OL doesn't matter, but it also doesnt doom the season if you can compensate for it with your RB and QB positions.

I think our RBs will find and exploit creases, and just as importantly, I think Keenum showed up in Minnesota that he can guide an offense behind a weaker OL.

We may not be an offensive juggernaut with Penn at LT, but we are not going to be a deadzone either.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1228336]We as Redskins fans have been spoiled in one aspect of football for the past 30 years.
LT
From the Hogs, to Lachey to Samuels to Williams we have had a near nonstop top tier LT protecting our QBs. Other teams have won far more with far less lines. Green Bay comes to mind off the top.

Not saying OL doesn't matter, but it also doesnt doom the season if you can compensate for it with your RB and QB positions.

I think our RBs will find and exploit creases, and just as importantly, I think Keenum showed up in Minnesota that he can guide an offense behind a weaker OL.

We may not be an offensive juggernaut with Penn at LT, but we are not going to be a deadzone either.

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To be fair, Keenum also had Diggs, Thielen, and the best 3rd down defense of all time. We have none of those things.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1228338]To be fair, Keenum also had Diggs, Thielen, and the best 3rd down defense of all time. We have none of those things.[/quote]
stats from Pro-Football
Diggs was a 5th round pick going into his 3rd year, never had a 1000 yard season, and had 7 touchdowns his first two years, and started 20 out of 32 games his first two seasons.

Thielen went undrafted in 2013, and was cut and put on the Vikings practice squad, then started 14 games from 2014-2016
his stat line for his seasons before 2017
yr tgt rec td
2014-13-8-137-1
2015-18-12-144-0
2016-92-69-967-5


in 2017 their respective stats were:
Diggs-started 14 games -95-64-849-8
Thielen-started 16 games-142-91-1276-4

My point is they weren't really "DIGGS and THIELEN" till Keenum got there. They might have had potential, but his play helped bring it out.

Maybe he does the same with our potential WR's

as for defense, we will see, I think our defense will be special (in a good way) this year.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1228338]To be fair, Keenum also had Diggs, Thielen, and the best 3rd down defense of all time. We have none of those things.[/quote]

Minnesota had all those things last year and they managed to win one more game than we did (and tied another game that they should have lost).

We have a good defense with potential to be great, and while who knows about our wideouts, they are young and unproven, and maybe, just maybe we get lucky and find a diamond in the rough.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1228344]Minnesota had all those things last year and they managed to win one more game than we did (and tied another game that they should have lost).

We have a good defense with potential to be great, and while who knows about our wideouts, they are young and unproven, and maybe, just maybe we get lucky and find a diamond in the rough.[/quote]

but last year they had Kurt, so they were SB bound!

:drink

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1228339]stats from Pro-Football
Diggs was a 5th round pick going into his 3rd year, never had a 1000 yard season, and had 7 touchdowns his first two years, and started 20 out of 32 games his first two seasons.

Thielen went undrafted in 2013, and was cut and put on the Vikings practice squad, then started 14 games from 2014-2016
his stat line for his seasons before 2017
yr tgt rec td
2014-13-8-137-1
2015-18-12-144-0
2016-92-69-967-5


in 2017 their respective stats were:
Diggs-started 14 games -95-64-849-8
Thielen-started 16 games-142-91-1276-4

My point is they weren't really "DIGGS and THIELEN" till Keenum got there. They might have had potential, but his play helped bring it out.

Maybe he does the same with our potential WR's

as for defense, we will see, I think our defense will be special (in a good way) this year.[/quote]

And we have no one on our team that has even come close to 849 WR yards at WR let alone 1200, Case had that one year of 21 TDs and 7 Ints but outside of that, has been just a waste of space. Yes our defense has potential but like Brain Billick said potential will get you fired

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1228347]And we have no one on our team that has even come close to 849 WR yards at WR let alone 1200, Case had that one year of 21 TDs and 7 Ints but outside of that, has been just a waste of space. Yes our defense has potential but like Brain Billick said potential will get you fired[/quote]

I'm not hired, so they aren't firing me. We don't have a clue what our WR's are capable of, now that we have cleared out most of the deadwood. Maybe they are more of the same, but at least in preseason the ones that played flashed good stuff.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1228344]Minnesota had all those things last year and they managed to win one more game than we did (and tied another game that they should have lost).

We have a good defense with potential to be great, and while who knows about our wideouts, they are young and unproven, and maybe, just maybe we get lucky and find a diamond in the rough.[/quote]

Their defense took a major step back last year too, the 2018 defense was no where near as good as the 2017 one. I hope we find a diamond in the rough, but I am just not expecting anything special from Case Keenum.