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skinsfan69 11-29-2012 08:28 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;967829]Flacco, Freeman, E. Manning, P. Manning, Rodgers, Stafford, Bradford, Rivers, Dalton, Brady, Schaub, Cutler, and many other QBs around the NFL has never done what RG3 has done this season. As a rookie, RG3 outshines them all. How many of those QBs ever had thrown for 2500 yards, 16 TDs, only 4 INTs, and a 104.6 Qb rating through their first 11 games as a pro? None of them!!![/quote]

W/out question he takes care of the ball. But I'd say our offense is a bit different from Green Bay's, Detroit, New England and even Indy. Those teams are pass first offenses where we're play action first offense. I don't think RG3 would have the stats he does if he played in a pass first offense. He'd probably have a few more picks, a lower completion % but more yards. That's not taking anything away from RG3, it's just that those teams play a higher risk type of offense. I think Luck leads the league in pass attempts. What I like most about RG3 is he does things that don't show up in the stat sheet and he can impact the game in more ways than one.

CRedskinsRule 11-29-2012 08:44 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
Good ROY article:
[url=http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/43578/who-is-the-offensive-rookie-of-the-year]Who Is the Offensive Rookie of the Year? - The Triangle Blog - Grantland[/url]

53Fan 11-29-2012 08:59 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;968905]Good ROY article:
[url=http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/43578/who-is-the-offensive-rookie-of-the-year]Who Is the Offensive Rookie of the Year? - The Triangle Blog - Grantland[/url][/quote]

I have to agree with him. Good article.

CRedskinsRule 11-29-2012 09:08 AM

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[quote=53Fan;968907]I have to agree with him. Good article.[/quote]

The only thing I thought he had wrong, is his #2 point for Luck. He said Indy's defense " is truly bad", which it may be, but ours has been worse for much of the season, and yet Griffin has had us in position to win at least 2 other games (NYG and Rams). Seemed a weak argument to me.

53Fan 11-29-2012 09:27 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;968911]The only thing I thought he had wrong, is his #2 point for Luck. He said Indy's defense " is truly bad", which it may be, but ours has been worse for much of the season, and yet Griffin has had us in position to win at least 2 other games (NYG and Rams). Seemed a weak argument to me.[/quote]

They are truly bad but I thought the same way as you when he didn't mention our defense. I mean, what are we, chopped liver? YES!!! How can you talk about a bad defense and not mention ours? I think he came to the right conclusion though.

RGIII 11-29-2012 11:21 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
Great thread. Griffin is number one in my book but, unbiasedly I'd say...

1 Brady
2 Peyton
3 Brees
3 Rodgers
5 RG3

Taking in consideration each QB's OL, WRs/TEs talent, QB rating and clutch ability. If all things were equal, this is how I see it.

REDSKINS4ever 11-29-2012 09:25 PM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;968903]W/out question he takes care of the ball. But I'd say our offense is a bit different from Green Bay's, Detroit, New England and even Indy. Those teams are pass first offenses where we're play action first offense. I don't think RG3 would have the stats he does if he played in a pass first offense. He'd probably have a few more picks, a lower completion % but more yards. That's not taking anything away from RG3, it's just that those teams play a higher risk type of offense. I think Luck leads the league in pass attempts. What I like most about RG3 is he does things that don't show up in the stat sheet and he can impact the game in more ways than one.[/quote]

Most of the teams you mentioned have starting quarterbacks who very accurate with the football. Rg3 came from a high percentage bubble screen type offense at Baylor and he has played admirably. When you look at Griffin III play the first thing yo notice is that he makes all his throws count. He doesn't waste passes and this is the reason why he's able to take care of the ball. You'll never see him have 16 TDs and 20 INTs like Rex Grossman.

CultBrennan59 11-30-2012 01:54 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
My friend asked me this question the other day "5 years from now who will be the top 3 QBs in the NFL?"

I said

1) RG3
2) Luck
3) Matt Ryan

Who would your 3 be (keep in mind some of the QBs in college could be counted)

Counter-Tre 11-30-2012 02:44 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
I love him with every fiber of my being so I couldn't possibly objectively rank him, nor would I want to. Number one in my friggin' heart, that's for sure. Could not be more proud of that guy.

REDSKINS4ever 11-30-2012 06:43 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
RG3 is certainly the best quarterback in the NFC. Romo and Vick didn't play well this year and Eli Manning is inconsistent. RG3 towers above them all.

Ruhskins 11-30-2012 10:35 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
I just saw [URL="http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8553749/ranking-nfl-teams-watchability"]this article in Bill Simmons' Grantland site[/URL]. It is from October but I thought it was hilarious what they said about the Redskins and RG3. I'm so glad we have such an excitingly good player:

"1. Redskins

… Robert Griffin III, who is the most exhilarating football experience since Michael Vick emerged on the scene in 2002. And RG3's numbers blow Vick's away. Keep in mind that Griffin leads the league in completion percentage (70.8 percent) and yards per attempt (8.5) with Leonard Hankerson and Josh Morgan as his starting wideouts, and that doesn't even consider his value as a runner. You know how Simmons has the Tyson Zone for celebrities who are so crazy he'd believe anything he heard about them? I feel the same way about Griffin on the field. [B]If I'm watching the Red Zone channel on Sunday and I see the "Coming up … " image with a Redskins graphic, my mind races. Did RG3 just kick a 65-yard field goal? By accident? Did he go back in time and relieve Drew Storen? Is he hosting the Red Zone Channel right now? You could tell me RG3 accomplished just about anything during a game on Sunday and I'll believe it. These days, nobody in football is more watchable or entertaining.[/B]"

MTK 11-30-2012 11:11 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
It really makes me excited to think about the next 10+ years with RG3. It should be a real blast to watch his career play out. I'll be shocked if we don't win at least one SB with him.

REDSKINS4ever 11-30-2012 11:14 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
[quote=Mattyk;969186]It really makes me excited to think about the next 10+ years with RG3. It should be a real blast to watch his career play out. I'll be shocked if we don't win at least one SB with him.[/quote]

One Super Bowl? Once Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan has thoroughly built this Redskins team, we will be the first team in NFL history to 3peat with RG3!!!!!!!!!!!!

RedskinRat 11-30-2012 11:18 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;969188]........we will be the first team in NFL history to 3peat with RG3!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]


:towel::point::httr::dallas::httr::point::towel:

REDSKINS4ever 11-30-2012 11:27 AM

Re: Where does RGIII rank?
 
[quote=redskinrat;969189]:towel::point::httr::dallas::httr::point::towel:[/quote]

Indeed!


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