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sportscurmudgeon 12-19-2011 03:41 PM

Re: Make a Decison on the Future of...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;868927]Well we've talked a lot about the future of London Fletcher and LaRon Landry Even Fred Davis but what about some of our other free agents?

Tim Hightower: If he shows he's healthy do you keep him or do you accept that we gave up a 5th (and Holliday) for a couple of weeks of Tim Hightower and let him go and ride the ROY-ster train?

Adam Carriker: Are you ready to hand over his spot to Jenkins and find someone else to provide depth?

Kedrick Golston: Um...I'm not really sure what to say here

Rocky McIntosh: Ditto

Will Montgomery: You can likely get him back for cheap. But do you say screw it and maybe try to draft a young C and move on without Montgomery? Or maybe you sign Grubbs and move Kory L. to C?

Tyler Polumbus: Has he shown you enough to offer him a contract to come back and compete for a T position

Donte Stallworth: Since returning after getting cut he's been a very clutch receiver, but should he stay?[/quote]


Obviously, everything that follows here is based on the idea that reasonable contracts can be negotiated for players I would want to keep. No one on this list is worth saddling the franchise with a huge multi-year deal with $30M guaranteed for example...


Hightower - - if he is healthy, keep him.

Carriker - - keep him until Jenkins shows that he can play against NFL starters in games that count in the standings.

Golston/McInstosh - - meh! neither is going to be a cornerstone of the defense; neither will embarrass the team if they have to play for a few series a game or be a starter for a week while someone gets over a minor injury.

Montgomery - - adequate and nothing more. team can do better and worse by making a change here. hope he is willing to work cheap...

Polumbus - - keep him. I think he might start next season.

Stallworth - - bring him to camp and let him compete for a spot next season the way the team did last season. If he beats out other WRs, good on him; if not, [I]vaya con Dios[/I].

SFREDSKIN 12-19-2011 03:56 PM

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Tim Hightower: Sign him to a 1 to 2 year contract

Adam Carriker: Sign to 1 year contract, if he doesn't like it say goodbye

Kedrick Golston: Same as Carriker, I like Golston's motor and character

Rocky McIntosh: Time to say goodbye

Will Montgomery: Sign him to 2 year contract

Tyler Polumbus: Bring the kid back for depth

Donte Stallworth: Thanks for the memories, Redskins need to get younger at WR.

Pigskins 12-19-2011 04:48 PM

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I say get a true number 1 in free agency and go with the FA gaffney moss hankerson and let stallworth fight With the young guys for the 5th spot

12thMan 12-19-2011 05:00 PM

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Hilarious that some are saying Adam Carriker might be a back-up. Based on what? Jenkins' potential? That's silly. Carriker has been more than solid, definitely a starter in this league. He's a keeper. I wonder if he tacked on a few more sacks and landed in the Pro-Bowl, how folks would feel?

I'm honestly on the fence about Hightower. Only because he started out so well and loves being a Redskin. We need more guys like that around here. And it's not like he's old. You're generally one injury away from signing a Rashard Choice, so I say bring Tim back.

Rocky, Sellers, Goltston, Monty - Gone baby gone.

GTripp0012 12-19-2011 06:37 PM

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[quote=12thMan;869058]Hilarious that some are saying Adam Carriker might be a back-up. Based on what? Jenkins' potential? That's silly. Carriker has been more than solid, definitely a starter in this league. He's a keeper. I wonder if he tacked on a few more sacks and landed in the Pro-Bowl, how folks would feel? [/quote]I would feel like I was watching a different player.

GTripp0012 12-19-2011 06:42 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;869038]To me it all comes down to who's getting them the ball. It's proven that teams can win with average wr's if you have a stud QB. These guys that we currently have are not playmakers but they're getting open. For the most part they've been open all year long. I bring back this group, let them compete and see how it shakes out. And Jabar Gaffney has just been rock solid, boy was I wrong about him. [B]But I hope they don't go out and overpay for someone like Dwayne Bowe or Marcus Colston.[/B] Improve the line and draft a legit QB and we can win with this group of wr's.[/quote]Yeah, that would be a pretty poor decision.

We should add through the draft, although there's no reason to spend a first round pick at the receiver position.

mooby 12-19-2011 06:45 PM

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[quote=12thMan;869058]Hilarious that some are saying Adam Carriker might be a back-up. Based on what? Jenkins' potential? That's silly. Carriker has been more than solid, definitely a starter in this league. He's a keeper. I wonder if he tacked on a few more sacks and landed in the Pro-Bowl, how folks would feel?

I'm honestly on the fence about Hightower. Only because he started out so well and loves being a Redskin. We need more guys like that around here. And it's not like he's old. You're generally one injury away from signing a Rashard Choice, so I say bring Tim back.

Rocky, Sellers, Goltston, Monty - Gone baby gone.[/quote]

I agree with everything you say here except for Monty. Carriker has definitely been more than solid, and is definitely not a weak link. With Jenkins back, his pt will be reduced, but since when is having quality depth a bad thing? Carriker definitely comes back next year, upgrade or not. Who cares who gets the start as long as all our defensive linemen stay fresh?

As for Hightower, again I agree. I love his attitude, but the on field results haven't been that impressive. I bring him back on a one year deal as a backup to Helu, and I'd let him battle with Royster for the backup job.

Rocky - yeah, gone.

Golston - Sad to say but he's just a body at this point. We might as well trade him in for a body that's better suited to play his position.

Montgomery - upgrade or not, bring him back. He's not a top notch center by any means, but we could definitely do worse. Even if we upgrade I'd still like him for depth.

Sellers - save us the trouble and just retire.

Polumbus - bring him back for depth.

Willie Smith - bring him back for depth too, and possibly let him battle for the RT spot.

Stallworth - bring him back only if Redskins do not seek an upgrade.

skinsfan69 12-19-2011 07:11 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;869068]Yeah, that would be a pretty poor decision.

We should add through the draft, although there's no reason to spend a first round pick at the receiver position.[/quote]

I don't think we should spend any picks on wr's.

Alvin Walton 12-19-2011 07:41 PM

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If Hankerson is healthy next spring then I agree we should not spend picks on any more WRs.
Free agency may be another thing though.

skinsfaninok 12-19-2011 08:13 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;868985]This offense needs more playmakers. I think our WRs are solid but unspectacular. Maybe Hankerson or Paul can be that type of guy eventually, but I feel like we need to make a move to bring in a guy that really scares a D.[/quote]


I think we need to go after Bowe I've been saying it since last year, people say he's a bit of a punk but he makes plays and produces w any QB. I think Moss is still a solid 2 or 3, AA won't make it IMO and Gaffney is a 2 at best so we need a true 1.. Is Hank the guy? Who knows but having a bad injury your rookie year doesn't look good

mooby 12-19-2011 09:10 PM

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;869077]I think we need to go after Bowe I've been saying it since last year, people say he's a bit of a punk but he makes plays and produces w any QB. I think Moss is still a solid 2 or 3, AA won't make it IMO and Gaffney is a 2 at best so we need a true 1.. Is Hank the guy? Who knows but having a bad injury your rookie year doesn't look good[/QUOTE]

Bowe is exactly the kind of guy I wouldn't trust after giving a big payday. His work ethic leaves a lot to be desired.

budw38 12-19-2011 09:14 PM

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[quote=mooby;869070]I agree with everything you say here except for Monty. Carriker has definitely been more than solid, and is definitely not a weak link. With Jenkins back, his pt will be reduced, but since when is having quality depth a bad thing? Carriker definitely comes back next year, upgrade or not. Who cares who gets the start as long as all our defensive linemen stay fresh?

As for Hightower, again I agree. I love his attitude, but the on field results haven't been that impressive. I bring him back on a one year deal as a backup to Helu, and I'd let him battle with Royster for the backup job.

Rocky - yeah, gone.

Golston - Sad to say but he's just a body at this point. We might as well trade him in for a body that's better suited to play his position.

Montgomery - upgrade or not, bring him back. He's not a top notch center by any means, but we could definitely do worse. Even if we upgrade I'd still like him for depth.

Sellers - save us the trouble and just retire.

Polumbus - bring him back for depth.

Willie Smith - bring him back for depth too, and possibly let him battle for the RT spot.

Stallworth - bring him back only if Redskins do not seek an upgrade.[/quote]
Agree with you . I would like to see Landry back , as long as he is healthy and dedicated to the game . London , I would hate to see him leave , even with Riley looking very solid .

REDSKINS4ever 12-20-2011 03:21 AM

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I think the Redskins front office is well aware of the value of London Fletcher. Fletcher will retire a Redskin and he will probably get top dollar. The guy is too valuable. A team would hurry to sign London Fletcher to a hefty salary to come to their team, regardless of his age because he's such a strong contributor to a defense. Bruce Allen knows this and will make Fletcher an offer that he can't refuse.

The fact that Perry Riley has been inserted in place of Rocky McIntosh is because Riley is a Shanahan draft pick with a great upside. The Redskins I'm thinking will cut ties with McIntosh early in the offseason.

Tim Hightower was running the ball effectively before his season ending knee injury halted his season. Something tells me he'll be back.

I like Adam Carriker. He's solid and can get to the QB and stuff the run.

Chico23231 12-20-2011 09:07 AM

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[quote=GTripp0012;869067]I would feel like I was watching a different player.[/quote]

lol nice Tripp...but Carriker is not that bad. Quality vetern presence who could be in the rotation backing up both Jenkins and Bowen. We are already losing Gholston, losing both would be bad. You could still draft depth for Gholston spot, while keeping a contributing player like Carriker in his prime. Sign him for to an affordable 2-3 year contract.

Paintrain 12-20-2011 10:16 AM

Re: Make a Decison on the Future of...
 
Hightower's return probably depends on what we do in the draft. If we pick up a RB that's a potential feature back, he won't return. If not, he will probably get a vet min contract for one year. Coming off of an ACL injury and with Helu's emergence, it's hard to see him getting a significant deal from us.

Carriker is playing the best ball of his career. That being said, he's a rotational player on a good team so he will probably be back and share snaps with Jenkins. Haslett likes him and he will provide young depth and a consistent effort.

Golston & McIntosh-gone.

Montgomery-Probably the toughest call on the list. He's serviceable, no more but he's been effective and a huge upgrade over Rabach the past couple of years. I'd guess right now he will be re-signed but may not be at starter money so he can be replaced if a better option comes available in FA or the draft.

Polumbus-He'll be back if he's willing to be a backup and take backup money. RT will probably be very high on the shopping list this offseason.

Stallworth-I can see him back next year. There will be some turnover at that position next year (Banks, Armstrong, Austin out) and we will be looking for a true #1 WR to pair with Hankerson, Gaffney, Moss and Paul. Stallworth provides, again, good depth at the position.

These are all guys who will be solid backups on a good team but not counted on to be starters or major contributors.


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