Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

OK, so the Weekly Standard office didn't erupt into cheers after the Rio decision was announced right? Rush Limbaugh didn't say something to the effect of it being the greatest day of his life? Look, if you don't like Obama fine, but I do have a problem with the effort to call into question his every motive as informed by a deeper nefariousness. He didn't decide to go until it was clear that Chicago was going to win to cash in on the popularity and feed his ego is the claim? Funny considering everyone involved with the process is saying that Chicago never had a chance. I know US intelligence isn't what it used to be, but still. What about Oprah? Was she just cashing in too? Isn't she already popular enough?

Isn't it possible that Obama was just doing what he thought his duty was as head of state? Lobbying for a clear boon for the country, as well as the city he is most recently from? I don't think people in Brazil are criticizing Lula for doing exactly the same thing, going and lobbying for his country - which he did, obviously, to great effect.

As for the Jesus-Obama line, Obama is in fact facing an insurrection amongst his base-supporters. While these people don't think he is a bad person per say, like Jim Corsi or Matt Drudge or Jsarno’s chain email letter writers or whatever else is being read here, they are strongly questioning his ability to govern, as am I. He is at a pivotal moment. His presidency is shaping up to be one of the defining disappointments of my adult life, right up there with the 06 Redskins and Star Wars The Phantom Menace. So, nobody thinks he's Jesus, that's a made up label to render irrational anyone who disagrees with the notion that he's the worst person and president of all time. Similar to the Jsarno argument: "since all smart people know Obama is a terrible president, is it possible for a smart person to think of anything he's done right?"

There's a large segment of the conservative moment that seeks to go beyond disagreeing with the man's policies and delegitimizing his entire presidency: arguing that he's a communist, a Kenyan, a Klingon, or merely a megalomaniac on an ego feeding rampage. Meanwhile they gain pleasure from anything that can be spun as a loss for him, including cheering when their own country loses out on the Olympics - which is, I maintain, an absolute disgrace.

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

But I do have to give props to Budw for having the courage to take on that liberal behemoth VH1. Their Grammy awards coverage has leaned left for years!

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

[quote=dmek25;603116]did you have the same thoughts when Regan was elected?[/quote]
Well , when Reagan was elected I was 16 and I did not follow politics then . Reagan did not run for public office until he was 50 , California Gov. RR believed all American should have an opprotunity to prosper , unlike the far left Dems who believe that " highly " educated Inlect's like themselves should < socialism > . [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gIxuOabGBE&NR=1"]YouTube - Ronald Reagan on Capitalism and Socialism[/ame] . Socialism only works for the very wealthy and those who don't care ...[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9qDRZ6pSRE&feature=related[/ame].

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

There seems to be a huge gap between the way Chicago is perceived by Chicagoans and the way it is perceived by the rest of the world. They really thought people would be falling all over themselves to go there? The place is a dump. Bad food. Bad architecture. Bad people. And that presentation. Awful.

And the Olympics are completely retarded anyways. The Redskins don't even play in the Olympics.

The IOC is mostly Eurotrash and there is something cringe inducing about a POTUS going begging in front of the likes of them. He must have owed Daley something fierce.

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

[quote=djnemo65;601112]Really pathetic to see some exultant over America losing the Olympics just because it can be spun as a "loss" for Obama. Just disgraceful.[/quote]


It's just the Olympics dude. It' not a war or anything. Also, it's a money loser (except for Richie Daley and his cronies) so we actually should all be exultant.

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

DJ65 , I do not celebrate , like most Americans don't when we " lose " anything . M. Moore laughed at a hurricane hitting the USA and the left is pretty damn evil when things don't go there way , like spoiled little 5 year olds ...[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaRZyZf_aqs]YouTube - Left vs. Right One Promotes Violence and the other Liberty and Freedom[/url]. 8 years of this lets not forget . How did the left react when Tony Snow came down with cancer ?

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

[quote=FRPLG;602764]When Obama cultivates this giant media persona to get himself elected and then continues to try and propagate it and use it as leverage and it fails it should come a no surprise that it gets labeled "[his] defeat". The fact that he only committed to showing up last week once they felt they were going to win shows me just how staged he really is. He was only going to show up so he could let the light of the win shine on the administration. Sorry, but he doesn't get to only take credit when things go right. He put this on his shoulders.[/quote]

I think there's a grain of truth to what you're saying. He has certainly created this larger than life image. And yes, he tries to leverage that for political gain. Okay. But he didn't do it all by himself, and like him or not he got elected on his own merits not because he was popular or some media darling. I don't buy that for one second. If that's the case, Sarah Palin should run away with the Republican nomination easily in 2012. Because she will command almost as much, if not more, media attention as Obama when the time comes. Believe that.

I think he went with good intentions and really decided at the last moment after being informed that his appearance would push it over the top. I don't see what's so wrong with that. And as far all of this being staged, I think every adminstration is guilty of that. This isn't unique to Obama.

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

[quote=12thMan;603197]I think there's a grain of truth to what you're saying. He has certainly created this larger than life image. And yes, he tries to leverage that for political gain. Okay. [B][I]But he didn't do it all by himself, and like him or not he got elected on his own merits not because he was popular or some media darling. I don't buy that for one second. If that's the case, Sarah Palin should run away with the Republican nomination easily in 2012. Because she will command almost as much, if not more, media attention as Obama when the time comes. Believe that. [/I][/B]

I think he went with good intentions and really decided at the last moment after being informed that his appearance would push it over the top. I don't see what's so wrong with that. And as far all of this being staged, I think every adminstration is guilty of that. This isn't unique to Obama.[/quote]

his own merits? what merits? he was the media darling and still is. sarah palin will get media attention but it will be bad for her because the attention she gets from the media will be negative. the mass media is liberal, they will attack her at every turn, not suck up to her as they did obama.

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

[quote=wolfeskins;603234]his own merits? what merits? he was the media darling and still is. sarah palin will get media attention but it will be bad for her because the attention she gets from the media will be negative. the mass media is liberal, they will attack her at every turn, not suck up to her as they did obama.[/quote] Palin will never get a fair deal with our media . The left , DNC and media always attack conservatives with " dumb " " stupid " ... ect . Even Obama made the comment about southern - conservatives " sticking to thier guns and religion " .... which has the underlying note of .... dumb . That is how they dismiss them so we the voters believe nothing they say . The media is really sad , they spent all of their time and money trying to discredit a plumber and a house wife , both of whom worked their tails off to live the American dream , yet that same media spent zero time on a terrosit < ayers > , a radical professor < kahlidi > ?

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

[quote=wolfeskins;603234]his own merits? what merits? he was the media darling and still is. sarah palin will get media attention but it will be bad for her because the attention she gets from the media will be negative. the mass media is liberal, they will attack her at every turn, not suck up to her as they did obama.[/quote]

Bull puckey. The whole liberal media bias is the biggest crock the right has peddled in years. When Acorn get's more media than Halliburton and Blackwater, the teabaggers garner more coverage than the very corporate interests that funded, organized, and advertised the movement, and when Obama's "olympic failure" gets more coverage than a prominent conservative group cheering when the bid failed, don't preach to me about liberal media bias.

And for the record, I think Palin will win the GOP nomination and what a glorious day that will be. But she's yet to give a substantive interview or speech on policy, or articulate her general views and vision for America. Nothing. If Palin is thorough, thoughtful and can make her case before the American people over and over in different settings and venues, then the media will give her a fair shake. But if all she want's to do is rile up the base, have spats with bloggers, post drive by messages on facebook and twitter, and talk about how much she loves the troops as a diversion from the topic at hand she'll continue to get hammered. Fair or not. Bottom line, Sarah Palin is responsible for the negative perception she has created. No one else. Not the media, not Katie Couric, not Tina Fey. It's all on Palin.

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

Maybe if the first lady is crying about her " sacrifice " ..[url=http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24535]The Noble “Sacrifice” of Michelle Obama – Michelle Malkin | FrontPage Magazine[/url].

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

[quote=12thMan;603329]Bull puckey. The whole liberal media bias is the biggest crock the right has peddled in years. When Acorn get's more media than Halliburton and Blackwater, the teabaggers garner more coverage than the very corporate interests that funded, organized, and advertised the movement, and when Obama's "olympic failure" gets more coverage than a prominent conservative group cheering when the bid failed, don't preach to me about liberal media bias.

And for the record, I think Palin will win the GOP nomination and what a glorious day that will be. But she's yet to give a substantive interview or speech on policy, or articulate her general views and vision for America. Nothing. If Palin is thorough, thoughtful and can make her case before the American people over and over in different settings and venues, then the media will give her a fair shake. But if all she want's to do is rile up the base, have spats with bloggers, post drive by messages on facebook and twitter, and talk about how much she loves the troops as a diversion from the topic at hand she'll continue to get hammered. Fair or not. Bottom line, Sarah Palin is responsible for the negative perception she has created. No one else. Not the media, not Katie Couric, not Tina Fey. It's all on Palin.[/quote]
No liberal bias , really ? How do you explain the non-lib media spending millions attacking a plumber , nothing about a Chicago terrorist -teacher ? How about the number of holmes McCain owned, nothing about Pres. Cand. J kerry [url=http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/homes.asp]snopes.com: John Kerry's Houses[/url] . You never answered the question , what were Obama's merits ... Acorn ..[url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/06/ag-acorn-embezzlement-totaled-m-m/]AG: ACORN Embezzlement Totaled $5M, Not $1M - Political News - FOXNews.com[/url] ..... [url=http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/us/09embezzle.html?_r=3&scp=3&sq=ACORN&st=nyt&oref=slogin&oref=slogin]The New York Times > Log In[/url] . Speaking of waste ...[url=http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9531.html]Taxpayers fund Bill Clinton spending - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO.com[/url].

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

[quote=budw38;603338]No liberal bias , really ? How do you explain the non-lib media spending millions attacking a plumber , nothing about a Chicago terrorist -teacher ? How about the number of holmes McCain owned, nothing about Pres. Cand. J kerry [URL="http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/homes.asp"]snopes.com: John Kerry's Houses[/URL] . You never answered the question , what were Obama's merits ... Acorn ..[URL="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/06/ag-acorn-embezzlement-totaled-m-m/"]AG: ACORN Embezzlement Totaled $5M, Not $1M - Political News - FOXNews.com[/URL] ..... [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/us/09embezzle.html?_r=3&scp=3&sq=ACORN&st=nyt&oref=slogin&oref=slogin"]The New York Times > Log In[/URL] . Speaking of waste ...[URL="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9531.html"]Taxpayers fund Bill Clinton spending - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO.com[/URL].[/quote]

Are you referring to Joe the non-plumber who's now a self professed comedian? The media spent millions attacking him? That's news to me. No pun intended. Look, Samuel (his name ain't Joe, by the way) put himself in the middle of a very heated and close general election. He stumped with John McCain and Sarah Palin for weeks, appeared on numerous talk shows and publicly spoke against McCain's opponent. So he was fair game. You do realize once you're a surrogate for a national candidate, you can't just go back to claiming that you're the average Joe again. He's famous now and truth be told he wanted it. If he was attacked, he was attacked as a spokesman for John McCain and not as your average private citizen.

As far as Obama's merits, if I posted a list for you to see with your own two eyes, you'd simply discredit them one by one. So who are we fooling here. Besides, I really don't care to get into a tit for tat about what Obama hasn't done v. what he's done v. what he promised. If he's a flop, the American people will vote the Bill Ayers, terrorist, loving bum out the White House. Plain and simple.

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

[quote=12thMan;603366]Are you referring to Joe the non-plumber who's now a self professed comedian? The media spent millions attacking him? That's news to me. No pun intended. Look, Samuel (his name ain't Joe, by the way) put himself in the middle of a very heated and close general election. He stumped with John McCain and Sarah Palin for weeks, appeared on numerous talk shows and publicly spoke against McCain's opponent. So he was fair game. You do realize once you're a surrogate for a national candidate, you can't just go back to claiming that you're the average Joe again. He's famous now and truth be told he wanted it. If he was attacked, he was attacked as a spokesman for John McCain and not as your average private citizen.

As far as Obama's merits, if I posted a list for you to see with your own two eyes, you'd simply discredit them one by one. So who are we fooling here. Besides, I really don't care to get into a tit for tat about what Obama hasn't done v. what he's done v. what he promised. If he's a flop, the American people will vote the Bill Ayers, terrorist, loving bum out the White House. Plain and simple.[/quote]
In fairness The media starting attacking him the moment he asked Mr. Obama the question on taxes being raised . It was after that he became a media magnet . But you are correct , he could have chose to not be interviewed , never heard him complain about the attention . I would not dismiss what Obama has done as a public servant , just thought during the campaign how ironic it was how Palin was viewed as not ready and Obama was treated as an " amazing " person with close to the same number of years serving the public . As all Presidents , we will have the final say every 4 years ,,,, have a nice day 12th .

Re: Chicago loses Olympic bid....
 

Another innocent sports related thread turned "Political". This is what happens in all political threads.

First, a guy gets on his :soapbox: then people begin to :argue:. Then the :hitfan: when :angry-smi:, then everyone goes back and forth :spank: each other. Then another guy has to come in with his own :rant: which if you think about it it is really offtopic, but it doesn't matter because everyone is so :madani: at this point that rationalle just doesn't matter. Everyone just continues on with their :censored:, turning this site into nothing more than a written :boxing: match. At this point all Matty can do is sit back and :doh:.