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[quote=irish;570155]With JC at QB there is no way the Skins go 13-3. 8-8ish is more like it. [B]Pgh won the Super Bowl with no running game and a terrible offensive line[/B] so if they improve their line and get their RBs healthy I dont see something like 15-1 out of question. I do think it is a bit high and 13-3 for Pgh could be more like it.[/quote]

And a defense that had 6 tackles for losses, 1 fumble recovery, and an INT return for a TD in a 27-23 game.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;570161]Such unbridled optimism (for Pittsburgh)!

Seriously, None, of us know what JC will accomplish, but it has been shown repeatedly that he has the ability to take the offense to the next level. It has been a long off-season, and the debate won't be settled until the season starts. For the record; I think 13-3 is possible, 10-6 to 12-4 is very likely, anything less, will be very disappointing, and also very unlikely.

I also am hoping that the Skins win the division, conference and SB.[/quote]

Its hard not to like Pgh's chances considering how well they did without a running game or o-line.

I agree that we dont know what JC will accomplish but I think the one thing he hasnt shown is any ability to take the offense to the next level. Thats what all the discussion is about, can he show something to make the Skins think he's worth resigning. Be prepared to be very disappointed, this is a 7 to 9 win team.

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[quote=53Fan;570173]And a defense that had 6 tackles for losses, 1 fumble recovery, and an INT return for a TD in a 27-23 game.[/quote]

Yes, the D really picked up the slack for the O but its one thing for a team to have a decent season with the D picking up trhe slack but its quite another for a team to win it all.

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[quote=53Fan;570173]And a defense that had 6 tackles for losses, 1 fumble recovery, and an INT return for a TD in a 27-23 game.[/quote]

True, but they also allowed the go ahead score. The offense had to drive for the win.

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[quote=irish;570174]Its hard not to like Pgh's chances considering how well they did without a running game or o-line.

I agree that we dont know what JC will accomplish but I think the one thing he hasnt shown is any ability to take the offense to the next level. Thats what all the discussion is about, can he show something to make the Skins think he's worth resigning. [B]Be prepared to be very disappointed[/B], this is a 7 to 9 win team.[/quote]

I promise to prepare to be disappointed as long as you promise to prepare to be pleasantly surprised.

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This was a Madden simulation folks. Leave it to some to piss on the fun as usual.

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[quote=irish;570174]Its hard not to like Pgh's chances considering how well they did without a running game or o-line.

I agree that we dont know what JC will accomplish but I think the one thing he hasnt shown is any ability to take the offense to the next level. Thats what all the discussion is about, can he show something to make the Skins think he's worth resigning. [B]Be prepared to be very disappointed, this is a 7 to 9 win team[/B].[/quote]
I am sorry, but that is really just a ridiculous assertion. Could we be, unlikely but it is the NFL. Our schedule is nearly identical to last year. We were 8-8 last year. Setting aside Balt. Pitt and the 2 Giants games for this discussion, the other games that we lost turned on several flukish plays, the St. Louis game particularly will not be a repeat this year, and the SF game also, I am cynical enough to believe that the loss was not mourned because of the draft status it gave us. Throw in the fact that SD, Den, KC, and Oakland are way below the talent level of Pitt Balt Cleveland and Cincy, and for our team to do less then 8-8 would really be a major major development. You add in an AH, and we should easily be 10-6. And I am convinced that there is no way that the Giants sweep us again, although we may not sweep the Eagles, we certainly will win at least three in the division, and sweeping Dallas is highly likely.

PS Burgundy Koolaid is the best (i don't know that I trust where the gold has been ;))

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;570176]True, but they also allowed the go ahead score. The offense had to drive for the win.[/quote]

True, and if the defense had not scored they would of had to drive for 2 scores to win. Pittsburgh had the best defense in the league, how is it we take that out of the equation in the SB? While playing well in the playoffs, the Cardinals "D" was nowhere near as good as Pittsburgh's. With Pittsburgh's defense the Lions would have probably made the playoffs. Anyone who doesn't think Pittsburgh's defense was the biggest factor in their making the playoffs and winning the SB is just trying to make their point, facts be damned. Pittsburgh gets in the backfield, just like the SB winning Giants the year before. Ask Brady what pressure can do.

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[quote=irish;570174]I agree that we dont know what JC will accomplish but I think the one thing he hasnt shown is any ability to take the offense to the next level. Thats what all the discussion is about, can he show something to make the Skins think he's worth resigning. Be prepared to be very disappointed, this is a 7 to 9 win team.[/quote]Hard to show an indicate of future success to someone who has their eyes shut.

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So clearly this is a simulation and we're just having fun before we actually see some NFL action. I can't wait!!

BUT -- anyone know how accurate these simulations have been in the past? I mean, what did Madden predict for us over the last couple of years in these simulations? Just curious.

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[quote]Madden Predictions 2008-9 (Last year)
NFC East
In perhaps the biggest shocker, the Super Bowl champion New York Giants actually finished in last place, only months removed from their miraculous run. Losing Michael Strahan hurt, but what hurt even more was a tough schedule; the Giants finished 8-8, but were in the wrong division for that to matter. Every other team had a winning record; the Cowboys took the division with an NFC-best 13-3 record, the [B]Redskins claimed the other Wild Card by winning 11 games[/B], and the Eagles finished in third at 9-7.

[url=http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/886/886672p1.html]IGN: Madden Monday: 2008 Season Simulation[/url]
[/quote]


I google search'ed my own question. It seems that last year they predicted us to go 11-5. It's obvious, but I guess we can't get too excited about these predictions.

Madden 2008-9 Predictions vs. Reality
Team Simulation Reality
Giants 8-8 12-4
Eagles 9-7 9-6-1
Cowboys 13-3 9-7
Redskins 11-5 8-8


I'm still getting excited about this season. As always.

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[quote=ethat001;570202]I google search'ed my own question. It seems that last year they predicted us to go 11-5. It's obvious, but I guess we can't get too excited about these predictions.

Madden 2008-9 Predictions vs. Reality
Team Madden Prediction Reality
Giants 8-8 12-4
Eagles 9-7 9-6-1
Cowboys 13-3 9-7
Redskins 11-5 8-8


I'm still getting excited about this season. As always.[/quote]

Pretty close on the Iggles. If we would have handled our business with the Rams, Bengals, and Niners, we would have proved 'em right.

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[quote=53Fan;570192]True, and if the defense had not scored they would of had to drive for 2 scores to win. Pittsburgh had the best defense in the league, how is it we take that out of the equation in the SB? While playing well in the playoffs, the Cardinals "D" was nowhere near as good as Pittsburgh's. With Pittsburgh's defense the Lions would have probably made the playoffs. Anyone who doesn't think Pittsburgh's defense was the biggest factor in their making the playoffs and winning the SB is just trying to make their point, facts be damned. Pittsburgh gets in the backfield, just like the SB winning Giants the year before. [B]Ask Brady what pressure can do.[/quote]
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LOL, Believe me i know. Ask Colt Brennan. UGA game killed his draft status. But im glad because he fell to us. CHEAP.

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[quote=53Fan;570192]True, and if the defense had not scored they would of had to drive for 2 scores to win. Pittsburgh had the best defense in the league, how is it we take that out of the equation in the SB? While playing well in the playoffs, the Cardinals "D" was nowhere near as good as Pittsburgh's. With Pittsburgh's defense the Lions would have probably made the playoffs. Anyone who doesn't think Pittsburgh's defense was the biggest factor in their making the playoffs and winning the SB is just trying to make their point, facts be damned. Pittsburgh gets in the backfield, just like the SB winning Giants the year before. Ask Brady what pressure can do.[/quote]

Brady was turned into a mortal, but he still managed to drive his team down the field for the go ahead score late in the 4th quaeter. Despite the Giants pass rush, it took one of the most miraculous plays of all time to beat the Pats. The defense gave the offense a chance, but it was up to the offense to do something with it.

Anyway, nobody can argue that the Steelers D wasn't the main reason for their success, but their offense proved plenty capable and made big plays on a regular basis. Remember, Big Ben was sacked more than JC and they played with their 3rd string RB for much of the season, and he (Melwelde Moore) racked up several 100 yard games. And when we played them, Byron Leftwich came in and lit us up. Imagine what would have happened if we had to play with our second string QB and third string RB. Many give JC and the offense a pass, because of the poor O line play and the lack of a true #1 WR. The Steelers didn't make any excuses. They won with starters, they won with back-ups.

Even though the 0-16 Lions scored more points than the Skins, it's far-fetched to say they would have made the playoffs with the Steelers defense. You have to give credit where credit is due. The Steelers have a great organization, much like the Skins had in the 80s and early 90s. Didn't matter who we had at the skill positions (Ricky Ervins, Gerald Riggs, Ricky Sanders, several different QBs, etc.). We still kept on winning. That's the kind of program I hope to see us build again once day. I think/hope we're on the right track

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[quote=44Deezel;570231]Brady was turned into a mortal, but he still managed to drive his team down the field for the go ahead score late in the 4th quaeter. Despite the Giants pass rush, [B]it took one of the most miraculous plays of all time to beat the Pats.[/B] The defense gave the offense a chance, but it was up to the offense to do something with it.

Anyway, nobody can argue that the Steelers D wasn't the main reason for their success, but their offense proved plenty capable and made big plays on a regular basis. Remember, Big Ben was sacked more than JC and they played with their 3rd string RB for much of the season, and he (Melwelde Moore) racked up several 100 yard games. [B] And when we played them, Byron Leftwich came in and lit us up[/B]. Imagine what would have happened if we had to play with our second string QB and third string RB. Many give JC and the offense a pass, because of the poor O line play and the lack of a true #1 WR. The Steelers didn't make any excuses. They won with starters, they won with back-ups.

[B]Even though the 0-16 Lions scored more points than the Skins, it's far-fetched to say they would have made the playoffs with the Steelers defense.[/B] You have to give credit where credit is due. The Steelers have a great organization, much like the Skins had in the 80s and early 90s. [B] Didn't matter who we had at the skill positions (Ricky Ervins, Gerald Riggs, Ricky Sanders, several different QBs, etc.). [/B]We still kept on winning. That's the kind of program I hope to see us build again once day. I think/hope we're on the right track[/quote]

I'll be the first to say JC and the rest of our offense has a long way to go. I think the difference between me and some of our other posters, is I think they [B]will[/B] go a long way. Could JC have done better last year? Hell yes! Was I happy with him and satisfied with his play? Of course not. But I do think he has what it takes to be a good NFL QB. If he doesn't improve this year....bye bye. I'm not his [B]biggest[/B] fan but I think he's getting way too much blame for our record and no matter what anyone says, constantly changing systems is not how you get the most out of your QB. JC plays way too safe IMO but I wonder if he's ever been comfortable in an offense that him and the receivers are still learning during the season. [B]Every year since he's been here[/B]. As far as Leftwich lighting us up, I think that says more about our defense last year than some people want to admit. As far as how well our 2nd or third string QB's would do, who knows? Collins did pretty well 2 years ago when he was brought in. Mainly because he [B]knew[/B] the offense. Besides, according to everyone who thinks JC is the problem, we might do better, right? The Steelers have a great organization, no doubt about it. They usually have one of the best defenses in the league. Your absolutely right about the Giants, the offense had to take it down the field and it took a [B]miraculous play[/B] to do it. The same with the Steelers, it was a [B]miraculous play[/B] that won them the game. The Patriots had a record setting offense and the Cardinals offense was also their strongpoint. The Steelers and Giants stongpoint was their defense and ultimately those teams won the game. The defenses gave them a chance, and [B]miraculous plays[/B] sealed the deal. I give their offenses credit, but c'mon, it doesn't hurt to have miracles happen. Hopefully some of those miracles will befall us this year. A little luck always helps. I have to disagree about the Lions. As you stated , they scored more points than us and if their defense would have caused as much havoc as the Steelers defense did, especially in the division they play in, I don't think it's farfetched at all. I would love to see us like the Redskins of the 80's and 90's where who we had at the skill positions didn't matter. But of course we would have to have strong lines like those teams did. Last year we didn't which is one of the biggest reasons we went 8-8. Hopefully we've made some strides there this year. I agree. I hope/think we're on the right track.