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SBXVII 05-15-2009 06:59 PM

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I often wonder if the other teams are getting as much flack like the Kansas City Cheifs? or the Cleveland Indians, or the Florida Seminols.

Brian Orakpo 05-15-2009 07:09 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;558031]I often wonder if the other teams are getting as much flack like the Kansas City Cheifs? or the Cleveland Indians, or the Florida Seminols.[/quote]

None of those are slurs against Indians. I root for the Redskins and respect all Indians. At the sametime I can understand why some Indians who live in this country find it offensive.

Missin21 05-15-2009 07:26 PM

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;557953]The Skins won in the Appeals Court on the suit challenging the team's nickname as being racist. Unfortunately, it was decided on a technicality and not on the issue of the propriety of the nickname - - meaning that there can and probably will be further lawsuits on this matter.

Now, if the team can be equally successful on the field in the 2009 season ...[/quote]

I thought this nonsense was over. Don't they realize that George Preston Marshall named the team because of all the NA players they had when they were in Boston? It was a respect thing. People need to get over themselves. :doh:

Brian Orakpo 05-15-2009 07:31 PM

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[quote=Missin21;558046]I thought this nonsense was over. Don't they realize that George Preston Marshall named the team because of all the NA players they had when they were in Boston? It was a respect thing. People need to get over themselves. :doh:[/quote]

The same George Preston Marshall who also didnt allow blacks on the Redskins until the government forced him in 1962?

SmokinSkins 05-15-2009 10:22 PM

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A whopping 46 people have attached their name to that petition. There is a small group who believe that the name is racist and want it removed. After they win that fight they will proceed to the next fight. That is their choice, but I don't believe most people look at the name as racist. It may be to some and not to others.
"The Demise and Removal of the Washington Redskins Logo Petition"

I am mostly white with some Cherokee blood, and I love the Redskins. I look at the symbol as one of honor for the Native Americans. They were warriors as all the peoples and tribes in this world have been. When I see the current Redskin symbol, I only have positive thoughts of the Native Americans. Every Sunday when the Redskins play everyone who watches mostly sees a football game, but some will see a positive symbol of a proud people, and some will only think of what they had, and will never have again.

These people may get their way, and what will they be left with? The remembrance of their people and what they once were will fade even more into a distance memory.
Some of these name changes are crazy; soon there will be no Indian names at all. The Native Americans will then have truly vanished from the modern arena of warfare, called sports.

Redskins8588 05-15-2009 10:34 PM

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[quote=Giantone;557997]How bout , Washington Indians..?[/quote]

Can we also take Chief Wahoo from Cleveland too?!?!

Redskins8588 05-15-2009 10:41 PM

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[quote=Brian Orakpo;558043]None of those are slurs against Indians. I root for the Redskins and respect all Indians. At the sametime I can understand why some Indians who live in this country find it offensive.[/quote]

I agree that the Cleveland Indians is not a slur against Native Americans, but you have to agree that the mascot, Chief Wahoo, is more offensive than the one on the Redskins helmet...

Skins fan 44 05-15-2009 10:43 PM

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Even if they ever lose they don't have to change the name. They can still be called the Redskins. Redskins are potato's too aren't they? It would be kind of stupid or corny to be named after a potato but could still be called the Redskins.

Brian Orakpo 05-15-2009 11:54 PM

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[quote=Redskins8588;558060]I agree that the Cleveland Indians is not a slur against Native Americans, but you have to agree that the mascot, Chief Wahoo, is more offensive than the one on the Redskins helmet...[/quote]

Yes it is. Im referring to the Redskins team name.

53Fan 05-16-2009 12:12 AM

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[quote=SmokinSkins;558056]A whopping 46 people have attached their name to that petition. There is a small group who believe that the name is racist and want it removed. After they win that fight they will proceed to the next fight. That is their choice, but I don't believe most people look at the name as racist. It may be to some and not to others.
"The Demise and Removal of the Washington Redskins Logo Petition"

I am mostly white with some Cherokee blood, and I love the Redskins. I look at the symbol as one of honor for the Native Americans. They were warriors as all the peoples and tribes in this world have been. When I see the current Redskin symbol, I only have positive thoughts of the Native Americans. Every Sunday when the Redskins play everyone who watches mostly sees a football game, but some will see a positive symbol of a proud people, and some will only think of what they had, and will never have again.

These people may get their way, and what will they be left with? The remembrance of their people and what they once were will fade even more into a distance memory.
Some of these name changes are crazy; soon there will be no Indian names at all. The Native Americans will then have truly vanished from the modern arena of warfare, called sports.[/quote]

Good post. Thanks for your imput and welcome to The Warpath!

bigm29 05-16-2009 12:35 AM

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[quote=steveo395;557965]Why do people keep suing the Redskins for their name? Who really cares. Is it really going to make these peoples lives any better if there is no team named the Redskins anymore? If somebody really gets offended that easily I think they have bigger problems.[/quote]


Same applies to the N word. who really cares... get over it

Brian Orakpo 05-16-2009 02:37 AM

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[quote=bigm29;558076]Same applies to the N word. who really cares... get over it[/quote]

Thats kinda the problem. Just like the N word is a racist remark towards blacks the word Redskin is a racist remark towards Indians. If you were a Indian living in Washington DC are you telling me you wouldnt be offended at Redskin fans wearing t-shirts and caps that say Redskins? It would be like a Africian-American living in DC and seeing the N word on t-shirts and hats.

Now when I say this im just giving a different point of view. I know Redskin fans respect and honor Indians. We all wear our Burgundy & Gold in pride. Im happy we won another case that lets us keep the name Redskins, logo, etc. Im just giving a different point of view from the other side. If I was a Indian I would probably be offended in todays society seeing the word Redskins as a team of a US Pro Football Franchise.

I know not all Indians care about the name but I can understand the other point of view of the Indians that do.

Giantone 05-16-2009 03:59 AM

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[quote=tryfuhl;558011]Can we see your research?[/quote]



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7GKtUDOPkM]YouTube - Redskins-A 500 Year Hate Crime (quick preview)[/ame]

skins89moss 05-16-2009 05:02 AM

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I think the word Redskin may offend a few Indians but as a total population how many are sitting around hoping that they have to change the name and logo. I think of the word Redskin as a fearce warrior that will never surrender.
I'm African American, Irish, and Indian and in California the Indians have their on land ( Reservation)that we can't even go into. They have casino's and their on land what do they really have to compalin about. They can choose to live on a reservation or any other place in America. How much money do they get in government aid. Good luck with this law suit it will be red tape for many years in the court system. Some African Americans think we should be reimbursts for reperations from Slavery. At least they got their on land so be happy and move on. HTTR.

GridIron26 05-16-2009 05:11 AM

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[quote=Brian Orakpo;558016]Actually the colors were one of many reasons why I started liking the Redskins as a kid. I don't understand why you would hope not?[/quote]

I meant I hope Redskins fans aren't supporting the team only because of the colors.. But really, it doesn't matter any fans are welcome :)


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