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KI Skins Fan 03-01-2009 09:49 AM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
[quote=firstdown;532194]I'm really not looking for our D to get any better but if we can get more preasure on the QB and stop teams late in the game I'd be happy if we slipped a notich or two in the ranking. Now I'd love to have a tatal shut down D but if I keep my expectations in check I won't be disapointed.[/quote]

More pressure on the QB would almost certainly mean more turnovers and more turnovers would give the Offense more opportunities to score. If we can do that and stop teams late, like you, I couldn't care less where the D was ranked.

What I'm about to write may seem like a wisecrack. It's not. Our DB's and LB's need to work very hard on tip drills and catching the ball during the off-season. Carlos Rogers, for one, could move to a new level as an elite corner if he would just improve on catching the football. He and the others should get more opportunities for interceptions than ever before if our pass rush improves as much as I think it will.

BTW, to get back to the subject of the thread, more opportunities to score due to turnovers could be a double-edged sword for JC. Scoring off of turnovers would be huge for the team and demonstrate JC's leadership. On the other hand, it is very deflating for a team to get turnovers and then fail to score off of them. Offensive series after turnovers is one area where JC will come under the microscope.

After all, one of the main reasons that the Skins are paying AH and JT big bucks is to create turnovers. If Carlos doesn't catch the ball or if JC doesn't convert turnovers into points, then the money will have been wasted. And if that money is wasted, somebody is going to pay for it with his career.

Skins fan 44 03-01-2009 09:58 AM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
If he plays like the first half of last season he is money and we get to the playoffs+++. If he struggles mid way thru the season like last year....Hello Colt!!! Of course part of it him falling in the second half of last season was the injuries but he has to step up. You do not see Tom Brady or Peyton Manning fall when they have injuries.

44ever 03-01-2009 10:03 AM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
Im going on record as saying [B][I]Jason Campbell will be a Top 5 or better QB in 09[/I][/B].
There, I said it!!!

MdBluefinCrab 03-01-2009 11:18 AM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
Well, I'm going on record saying JC will play about as good or bad, depending on how you look at it, as he did last year.
He just doesn't have it. Now with maximum protection and a strong running game, they can minimize his decision making and his propensity for mistakes but if they keep the quick pass routes (WCO) as a major component of the offense, he'll fail. He just doesn't have the quick release or reads and that's not something you can teach. You either have it or you don't and he doesn't. A QB without a quick release in a WCO will fail.
In my opinion, if he doesn't dramatically improve, and that means doing more than just managing the offense, then he should be benched and end this ridiculous experiment.

RedskinPete 03-01-2009 04:49 PM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
[quote=budw38;532191]I would have to agree with you . We still may be a DE away from a truly dominant DEFENSE . If J. Taylor has a big year , and A. Montgomery plays 100 mph for 60 mins , we could give some headaches to romo-eli-and mcnabb ![/quote] I think Carter and Taylor will be just fine. What would help would be to get a stud OLB in the draft!

RedskinPete 03-01-2009 04:52 PM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
[quote=MdBluefinCrab;532215]Well, I'm going on record saying JC will play about as good or bad, depending on how you look at it, as he did last year.
He just doesn't have it. Now with maximum protection and a strong running game, they can minimize his decision making and his propensity for mistakes but if they keep the quick pass routes (WCO) as a major component of the offense, he'll fail. He just doesn't have the quick release or reads and that's not something you can teach. You either have it or you don't and he doesn't. A QB without a quick release in a WCO will fail.
In my opinion, if he doesn't dramatically improve, and that means doing more than just managing the offense, then he should be benched and end this ridiculous experiment.[/quote]
That is why I love to get one more good vet to play RT to give him ever chance. It would help the run and give him that time. Then if he doen't get the job done time to move to plan B!

skinsfan69 03-01-2009 05:58 PM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
Since it's the last year of his deal it sure look like a make or break season. He's gotta play better and so does the line and wr's. Also JC needs to stop playing scared. He's starting to remind of Brunell with all the check downs. Start taking more chances. Or Zorn needs to open up the offense. Perhaps it's a combination of both but we can't do anything until the line pass blocks better.

JWDundees 03-01-2009 06:07 PM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
Campbell will make big steps forward simply by being in the offense one more year. Every QB in our division has been in the same system since they became a starter. Poor Campbell has learned like 24 offenses in his college and pro career. Last year it seemed he was thinking too much...and not just reacting and playing. That comes from familiarity with the playbook. I'm a firm believer in consistency breeding success. Something the Redskins as a whole havent been known for since the 80's.

dblanch66 03-02-2009 11:43 AM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
Campbell seems to lack fire and leadership. I was frustrated in his play more than once down the stretch because he made quite a few dumb plays. I would have NO problem seeing Colt Brennan take over this offense. He has swagger and a gun and displays a certain will to win. It will all come down to training camp. If Colt makes strides forward and plays well, Campbell's hook could get shorter.

freddyg12 03-02-2009 11:49 AM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
[quote=dblanch66;532646]Campbell seems to lack fire and leadership. I was frustrated in his play more than once down the stretch because he made quite a few dumb plays. I would have NO problem seeing Colt Brennan take over this offense. He has swagger and a gun and displays a certain will to win. It will all come down to training camp. If Colt makes strides forward and plays well, Campbell's hook could get shorter.[/quote]

I don't think he lacks either, he just doesn't wear his emotions on his sleeve, which is actually one of the resons I like him. At the end of the year when he couldn't find anyone open he tucked the ball & ran quite a bit.

He brought the team back to tie it in the last game v. SF & I think that drive was indicative of his will to win. He likely got frustrated w/the lack of open recievers & decided to make something happen on his own.

As for "dumb plays" I really didn't see anything other than typical mistakes all year from him. He wasn't given a chance in several games, e.g. pittsburgh.

CRedskinsRule 03-02-2009 12:07 PM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
I know atleast two games where late 4th qtr offensive rallies (St.Louis, SF and I am sure there were more I just cant name them) were stymied by the defense allowing the other team to come back. That's why AH is a big deal, but also disputes that Campbell can't lead this team.
As for it being a make or break year, isn't the fact that his contract expires after it kinda self explanatory??? Seems like just another lets bash Campbell thread :(

SouperMeister 03-02-2009 12:15 PM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
[quote=dblanch66;532646][B]Campbell seems to lack fire and leadership.[/B] I was frustrated in his play more than once down the stretch because he made quite a few dumb plays. I would have NO problem seeing Colt Brennan take over this offense. He has swagger and a gun and displays a certain will to win. It will all come down to training camp. If Colt makes strides forward and plays well, Campbell's hook could get shorter.[/quote]Giants fans said the same thing about Eli. I love Campbell's demeanor - I want a QB that can keep his emotions an even keel. He will improve in year two in this offense, plus expect better production out of the young receivers. A healthy Randy Thomas and an upgrade at RT are the only question marks that might prevent the offense from taking a big step forward.

TheSmurfs22 03-02-2009 12:22 PM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
I like that JC stays level headed and does not pop off. That is what you need with a qb. Having another year under Zorn will help Campbell.
Honestly I think the ones who may be on the hot seat if things go south next season will be Zorn, Blache and possibly Cerrato.

Trample the Elderly 03-02-2009 12:37 PM

Re: Is This a Make or Break Season for Jason Campbell?
 
I thought I posted this already?


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