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SBXVII 01-26-2008 06:36 PM

Re: So Now Who Do You Want?
 
[quote=budw38;413439]I think we can forget Cowher . No way Cowher coaches a team built by Vinny . Dan better hope the new guy wins right out of the gate .If Fassell is the guy ,,, looks like Collins will leave , now we need 2 backup qb's not to mention a big Wr. I can't see Moss and R. EL holding up all year if they run all those crossing patterns used in the west coast offence .[/quote]

Ok we have two great back ups right. lol. The kid from Maryland and Palmer. lol. Why not start fresh all around. lol.

SFREDSKIN 01-26-2008 06:37 PM

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[QUOTE=SBXVII Spagnoulo: he coached the D in Philly and prior to that worked under Bobby Beathered in San Diego. not sure if he runs the same defense.
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He actually started his NFL career with the Redskins in 1983 working as an intern/gopher for Charlie Casserly.

That Guy 01-26-2008 06:44 PM

Re: So Now Who Do You Want?
 
no one that wants to stand up to snyder is going to get hired. i think that's part of the deal, that you let him run around feeling important and making deals that may or may not be good for the team.

i'm mad with how it's gone down, and outside a surprise deal for cowher or fisher, i don't really understand how this whole episode is going to make the team better or provide stability... cause every year we've made a major change in staffing, we've had a terrible record to show for it.

Longtimefan 01-26-2008 06:44 PM

Re: So Now Who Do You Want?
 
[QUOTE=JCK and RFK;413441]who wants to come coach a team who had all of snyders guys in place. how can you hire the whole coaching staff without a head coach?[/QUOTE]


Haven't you learned already that we do things in an unconventional manner here? We're going to get to the mountaintop without the courtesy of a climb. Maybe we'll rent another limosuine ride to take us there.

Slingin Sammy 33 01-26-2008 06:48 PM

Re: So Now Who Do You Want?
 
[quote=budw38;413439],,, looks like Collins will leave , now we need 2 backup qb's not to mention a big Wr. I can't see Moss and R. EL holding up all year if they run all those crossing patterns used in the west coast offence .[/quote]
Not a big deal. Outside of the last 4 games I sure didn't hear too many folks signing Collins' praises. He appears to know Saunders' system but his arm is weak and he sure didn't keep his composure very well against Seattle. Finding a couple backup QBs won't be a big issue. We needed a big WR anyway, but we do have Anthony Mix (6'5"). Branch, Engram and Burleson (all 6' & under) held up pretty well and Seattle's offense did well even without a running game.

By no means were GW & Saunders without flaws, there was many a week those two were getting hammered right here. If Snyder and Cerrato want to go another direction and they are hiring talented coaches, let's give it a chance. The players sure will, they're well paid and under contract.

GMScud 01-26-2008 06:51 PM

Re: So Now Who Do You Want?
 
I mean at this point Cowher is a pipe dream (for this year at least), but if we're talking in hypotheticals of course I'd take The Chin. So that's who I voted for.

Slingin Sammy 33 01-26-2008 06:52 PM

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[quote=JCK and RFK;413441]who wants to come coach a team who had all of snyders guys in place. how can you hire the whole coaching staff without a head coach?[/quote]
Maybe the "guys" just hired were recommended by one or some of the potential HC candidates and Snyder brought them in / re-signed them to show the new HC candidate/s Snyder will give him what he needs/requests.

Rock31 01-26-2008 07:08 PM

Re: So Now Who Do You Want?
 
You've gotta admit that the longer Snyder buys time, the chances of a lucrative, just-can't-refuse offer for Cowher panning out increase exponentially. Strictly odds-speaking here.

mooby 01-26-2008 07:13 PM

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I'm gonna vote for Spags here, I see what he's done in Philly and what he did with the Giants d this season and I'll admit I've been impressed. I think a young up and comer is the way to go in this league, I've taken notice of the trend around the league and I think we should go that way too instead of taking some retread from some other team. Schwartz could be a good candidate but I haven't been impressed with his D in Tennessee, I think it's been too inconsistent.

SouperMeister 01-26-2008 07:17 PM

Re: So Now Who Do You Want?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;413364]Schwartz or Grimm, I think they should ask Arizona for permission to interview him.[/quote]Schwartz runs effectively the same D as Williams, both coming from the Buddy Ryan tree of coaches. I hadn't really thought of Grimm, but that would be interesting as well.

Slingin Sammy 33 01-26-2008 07:20 PM

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[quote=mooby;413465]I'm gonna vote for Spags here, I see what he's done in Philly and what he did with the Giants d this season and I'll admit I've been impressed. I think a young up and comer is the way to go in this league, I've taken notice of the trend around the league and I think we should go that way too instead of taking some retread from some other team. Schwartz could be a good candidate but I haven't been impressed with his D in Tennessee, I think it's been too inconsistent.[/quote]
What did Spags do in Philly? He had a good season in NY this year, but IMO his resume is too short too qualify as a HC. This is his first season as a DC.

Hail to the Redskins 01-26-2008 07:29 PM

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Spagnuolo... if you don't know why, you need to read this article. If Charlie Casserley and Bobby Beathard BOTH give him a vote, that's enough for me!!! But also... what a cool story about him being an intern for the Skins in the early '80s!

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080122/SPORTS01/787676151/1005/SPORTS]Giants' Spagnuolo is mentioned for opening*-*-*The Washington Times, America's Newspaper[/url]

SBXVII 01-26-2008 07:48 PM

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Spagnuolo is not a bad choice but is his style of defense similar to Blache's or are we going to have problems with styles and controls.

GTripp0012 01-26-2008 07:49 PM

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Time to reason through this list and see who the next Redskins' head coach is.

[B]Assumption #1:[/B] The Redskins already know who their Head Coach is.

[B]Assumption #2:[/B] The Redskins' next HC already knows he has the job.

The reasoning for this, is that the coach has to have been a integral part of the naming of the staff. He had to be.

Why would the Redskins hand pick a coordinator, and then promote from within on the other coordinator? Why has Gregg Williams withdrawn his name? And finally, what are the Redskins waiting for?

First of all, I think we can eliminate Spagnuolo from the discussion. I mean, it's somewhat possible the Redskins could have a wink-nod deal in place for Spagnuolo, but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Rather, the wait until post-super bowl is the perfect smokescreen for the Redskins to act like the coaching search is still going on. Don't buy it. Snyder already has his guy. It's not Spagnuolo, and it sure as hell ain't Cowher.

That leaves Fassel, Meeks, and Schwartz. Meeks is the candidate that received the least amount of hype out of the three, but that doesn't mean he isn't the guy. However, I would gamble that he would be the least likely out of the three.

Assuming I read this one correctly, the only logical candidates are Fassel and Schwartz. One of them has the job lined up already, and the other likely doesn't know he doesn't have it yet.

There was a reason that Williams announced that he was out of the running over a week before the job will be given, and I believe it's a PR reason. The incoming coach will have far less animosity to deal with from the fans if they have time to digest the fact that Williams is going elsewhere. Look for Williams to sign somewhere as a coordinator before the Super Bowl.

That's why the Redskins are waiting on the announcement (and it's probably going to leak at some point prior to the SB, it's hard to keep the wraps on this type of info for long). It's either Fassel or Schwartz. The only evidence we have for one over the other is the internal promotion of a defensive coordinator, and the external courting of the offensive guy. That tells me that the hire is probably a guy who's got his rep on the defensive side of the ball. The final piece of evidence is that Fassel didn't get the job when Danny had the chance to hand it to him. The businessman that he is, he likely saw his window of opportunity to name Fassel HC close.

Official Prediction: Jim Schwartz is hired as Head Coach of the Washington Redskins on February 5th, 2008, two days after the super bowl.

SmootSmack 01-26-2008 07:54 PM

Re: So Now Who Do You Want?
 
[QUOTE=GTripp0012;413489]Time to reason through this list and see who the next Redskins' head coach is.

[B]Assumption #1:[/B] The Redskins already know who their Head Coach is.

[B]Assumption #2:[/B] The Redskins' next HC already knows he has the job.

The reasoning for this, is that the coach has to have been a integral part of the naming of the staff. He had to be.

Why would the Redskins hand pick a coordinator, and then promote from within on the other coordinator? Why has Gregg Williams withdrawn his name? And finally, what are the Redskins waiting for?

First of all, I think we can eliminate Spagnuolo from the discussion. I mean, it's somewhat possible the Redskins could have a wink-nod deal in place for Spagnuolo, but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Rather, the wait until post-super bowl is the perfect smokescreen for the Redskins to act like the coaching search is still going on. Don't buy it. Snyder already has his guy. It's not Spagnuolo, and it sure as hell ain't Cowher.

That leaves Fassel, Meeks, and Schwartz. Meeks is the candidate that received the least amount of hype out of the three, but that doesn't mean he isn't the guy. However, I would gamble that he would be the least likely out of the three.

Assuming I read this one correctly, the only logical candidates are Fassel and Schwartz. One of them has the job lined up already, and the other likely doesn't know he doesn't have it yet.

There was a reason that Williams announced that he was out of the running over a week before the job will be given, and I believe it's a PR reason. The incoming coach will have far less animosity to deal with from the fans if they have time to digest the fact that Williams is going elsewhere. Look for Williams to sign somewhere as a coordinator before the Super Bowl.

That's why the Redskins are waiting on the announcement (and it's probably going to leak at some point prior to the SB, it's hard to keep the wraps on this type of info for long). It's either Fassel or Schwartz. The only evidence we have for one over the other is the internal promotion of a defensive coordinator, and the external courting of the offensive guy. That tells me that the hire is probably a guy who's got his rep on the defensive side of the ball.

Official Prediction: Jim Schwartz is hired as Head Coach of the Washington Redskins on February 5th, 2008, two days after the super bowl.[/QUOTE]

Nice post. I'd love to see Schwartz here, have wanted him since like December. However, I can see the advantage in Fassel in that he's been there before and he can help guide Zorn on the offensive side while the more experienced Blache handles the defense.

Meeks I honestly don't know enough about.


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