Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

his ideas are not based on anything other than who he likes to watch. King should have named his article "my favorite qb's in the NFL".

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

The only person who can prove Mr. King wrong is Jason Campbell. I hope JC proves Mr. King to be an ill-informed writer rather than a predictive genius.

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

[QUOTE=dmek25;319386]why is everyone getting in an uproar? Mcnabb is easily top 5, and we see where he is ranked. where did he put his boy Eli Manning? king had a big time love affair with cutler, even before he had played a down in this league. man, i cant wait for the real deal to start. i hate arguing over fat, bald headed guys who don't know what they are talking about[/QUOTE]

No way is McNabb better than anyone in PK's top 5. A few years ago he might have been but not now.

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

Not sure why its such a surprise where JC is ranked base on how he ranked the QB's and if you read how he ranked them it makes sense. He even kind of joked on where Kitna was in his raking but explained it was based on how he was ranking them.

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

[QUOTE=firstdown;319430]Not sure why its such a surprise where JC is ranked base on how he ranked the QB's and if you read how he ranked them it makes sense. He even kind of joked on where Kitna was in his raking but explained it was based on how he was ranking them.[/QUOTE]

Ultimately the rankings represent his prediction of how he thinks the quarterback will perform in 2007. It's not based on any hard methodology or formula. I think most people here feel that it's reasonable to expect more of Campbell in his first full year as a starter.

As for the Kitna ranking, if I said the Earth was flat and then made a joke about having said it, it wouldn't make it any less of an ass-stupid comment.

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

[quote=irish;319424]No way is McNabb better than anyone in PK's top 5. A few years ago he might have been but not now.[/quote]
then we will have to disagree. the only 2 quarterbacks on the list that deserve to be ranked higher are Manning and Brady. you would seriously take Marc Bulger over Mcnabb?

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

Whatever. King is just throwing his opinion out there. Some points he makes will actaully be right (Donovan won't be as hot as he was in 2006 again), Others (such as Romo and Young being more productive than McNabb) will be wrong. That's not a big deal.

Speaking of opinions, heres how I would have done it:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Everyone else

With everyone else listed in this order:

2. Marc Bulger
3. Phillip Rivers
4. Matt Leinart
5. Tom Brady
6. Carson Palmer
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Matt Schaub
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. Drew Brees
11. Donovan McNabb
12. Jason Campbell
13. Byron Leftwich
14. Jay Cutler
15. Vince Young
16. Eli Manning
17. Chad Pennington
18. Steve McNair
19. Jon Kitna
20. Jeff Garcia
21. Trent Green
22. Alex Smith
23. Rex Grossman
24. Tony Romo
25. Jake Delhomme
26. Brett Favre
27. Michael Vick
28. Josh McCown
29. Brodie Croyle
30. Charlie Frye
31. JP Losman
32. Tavaris Jackson

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

[quote=dmek25;319437]then we will have to disagree. the only 2 quarterbacks on the list that deserve to be ranked higher are Manning and Brady. you would seriously take Marc Bulger over Mcnabb?[/quote]I would absolutely.

I'd put my money on Bulger getting NFL MVP this year assuming my predicition that the Rams run off 11+ wins in the regular season comes true.

McNabb's good (obviously), but his entire career suggests that his first 6 games of last season were a mirage, and that he got injured before his numbers could be pulled back down to earth. I'd expect him to have another good season again this year, but top 3 is borderline ridiculous. But then again, you know what they say about opinions.

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

McNabb put up HUGE numbers in 2004, so I'm not sure why anyone would consider what he did last year until he got injured a "mirage".

In fact if you look at his last two injury plagued seasons, if you project those numbers out over a full season his numbers would be pretty much right in line with his 2004 season.

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

[quote=GTripp0012;319444]Whatever. King is just throwing his opinion out there. Some points he makes will actaully be right (Donovan won't be as hot as he was in 2006 again), Others (such as Romo and Young being more productive than McNabb) will be wrong. That's not a big deal.

Speaking of opinions, heres how I would have done it:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Everyone else

With everyone else listed in this order:

2. Marc Bulger
3. Phillip Rivers
4. Matt Leinart
5. Tom Brady
6. Carson Palmer
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Matt Schaub
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. Drew Brees
11. Donovan McNabb
12. Jason Campbell
13. Byron Leftwich
14. Jay Cutler
15. Vince Young
16. Eli Manning
17. Chad Pennington
18. Steve McNair
19. Jon Kitna
20. Jeff Garcia
21. Trent Green
22. Alex Smith
23. Rex Grossman
24. Tony Romo
25. Jake Delhomme
26. Brett Favre
27. Michael Vick
28. Josh McCown
29. Brodie Croyle
30. Charlie Frye
31. JP Losman
32. Tavaris Jackson[/quote]


I was with you up until number 2

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

[quote=GTripp0012;319446]I would absolutely.

I'd put my money on Bulger getting NFL MVP this year assuming my predicition that the Rams run off 11+ wins in the regular season comes true.

McNabb's good (obviously), but his entire career suggests that his first 6 games of last season were a mirage, and that he got injured before his numbers could be pulled back down to earth. I'd expect him to have another good season again this year, but top 3 is borderline ridiculous. But then again, you know what they say about opinions.[/quote]


I predict the Rams will win 8 at the most.

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

[quote=GTripp0012;319444]Whatever. King is just throwing his opinion out there. Some points he makes will actaully be right (Donovan won't be as hot as he was in 2006 again), Others (such as Romo and Young being more productive than McNabb) will be wrong. That's not a big deal.

Speaking of opinions, heres how I would have done it:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Everyone else

With everyone else listed in this order:

2. Marc Bulger
3. Phillip Rivers
4. Matt Leinart
5. Tom Brady
6. Carson Palmer
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Matt Schaub
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. Drew Brees
11. Donovan McNabb
12. Jason Campbell
13. Byron Leftwich
14. Jay Cutler
15. Vince Young
16. Eli Manning
17. Chad Pennington
18. Steve McNair
19. Jon Kitna
20. Jeff Garcia
21. Trent Green
22. Alex Smith
23. Rex Grossman
24. Tony Romo
25. Jake Delhomme
26. Brett Favre
27. Michael Vick
28. Josh McCown
29. Brodie Croyle
30. Charlie Frye
31. JP Losman
32. Tavaris Jackson[/quote]

Bulger at #2?

Rivers at #3?

Leinart at #4?

Brees at #10?

Schaub at #8?

I must say one thing, at least you're consistent in your "unique" views around here.

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

[quote=irish;319375]Of course its all speculation but I think the reason someone like JC is ranked so low and Cutler is ranked high is the team they play for. Denver is a proven team that is consistently in the playoff hunt. The Skins are a dysfunctional organization that is currently a perennial loser. I think if JC played for a better team he would be ranked higher.[/quote]

Look at Denver's offense and look at ours. On paper, we have the better offense. We have better RB's, better WR's and a better TE. I would say we are even at QB and O-line.

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

[quote=GTripp0012;319444]Whatever. King is just throwing his opinion out there. Some points he makes will actaully be right (Donovan won't be as hot as he was in 2006 again), Others (such as Romo and Young being more productive than McNabb) will be wrong. That's not a big deal.

Speaking of opinions, heres how I would have done it:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Everyone else

With everyone else listed in this order:

2. Marc Bulger
3. Phillip Rivers
4. Matt Leinart
5. Tom Brady
6. Carson Palmer
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Matt Schaub
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. Drew Brees
11. Donovan McNabb
12. Jason Campbell
13. Byron Leftwich
14. Jay Cutler
15. Vince Young
16. Eli Manning
17. Chad Pennington
18. Steve McNair
19. Jon Kitna
20. Jeff Garcia
21. Trent Green
22. Alex Smith
23. Rex Grossman
24. Tony Romo
25. Jake Delhomme
26. Brett Favre
27. Michael Vick
28. Josh McCown
29. Brodie Croyle
30. Charlie Frye
31. JP Losman
32. Tavaris Jackson[/quote]

No way Rivers and Leinart are ranked higher than McNabb, Palmer, Brees and Brady. I mean you are talking about 4 of the best qb's in football vs two guys who have only started one year. Hell, Leinart hasn't even started 16 games. From what I hear, Leinart is having problems with the new offense. Don't be surprised if you see Kurt Warner at some point this year.

Also how in the world do you have Schaub ahead of McNabb and Brees? That's nuts! McNabb and Brees are MVP type of players. Brees could have easily won the MVP last year.

Re: Peter King Expects Jason Campbell to be 26th Most Productive 2007 QB
 

[quote=skinsfan69;319466]No way Rivers and Leinart are ranked higher than McNabb, Palmer, Brees and Brady. I mean you are talking about 4 of the best qb's in football vs two guys who have only started one year. Hell, Leinart hasn't even started 16 games. From what I hear, Leinart is having problems with the new offense. Don't be surprised if you see Kurt Warner at some point this year.

Also how in the world do you have Schaub ahead of McNabb and Brees? That's nuts! McNabb and Brees are MVP type of players. Brees could have easily won the MVP last year.[/quote]But I'm not talking about last year. I'm projecting this year.

McNabb, Palmer, Brees, and Brady are and will always be successful quarterbacks, but the idea is to pick the guys who are the best in their field for this year. And Rivers, Leinart and Schaub definately fit the criteria.