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Aren't Deon Grant and Ken Hamlin "in the box" safeties?

On a related note, I wonder whether agents are going to be reluctant to sign contracts early because there is so much uncertainty as to how much players' salaries should increase (sorta like the draft)?

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They should install a webcam! This is the best night of the year!

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;282291]They should install a webcam! This is the best night of the year![/QUOTE]

Yeah I'm not sleeping tonight!

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[QUOTE=BangCartoon;282258]I'm of the belief that we can afford anything we want. Contracts can be very creative.
As far as lowballing Smoot and Pierce,, Pierce only had one yr of starting under his belt and demanded too much. Smart move on the Fo's part, course, hindsight is always 20/20.
Smoot went to Minnesota and promptly proved why he wasn't worth what he got, and we did the right thing in that case. I don't think that Smoot can cover any team's number one receiver.
i say let him keep walking.

And thank you Lady Brave. My usual haunts (no names mentioned) are getting way too crowded, and it's getting impossible to have any sort of intelligent discussion about Redskins football.
Glad to be here.

~Bang[/QUOTE]

Nice post. But I WANT MY NAME BACK!!! I say sign Smoot to a cap-friendly, short term deal. Sign Robaire Smith and Fletch as well. Trade the #6 and a conditional 2008 to Houston for the #8 and #39. Draft DE Anderson/Adams (one of them should be there) and CB Houston/Wilson. And keep Dockery, but at most give him a $12 million signing bonus and that's being generous

oh and Russ Grimm for the Hall of Fame ;)

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;282327]I say sign Smoot to a cap-friendly, short term deal. Sign Robaire Smith and Fletch as well. Trade the #6 and a conditional 2008 to Houston for the #8 and #39. Draft DE Anderson/Adams (one of them should be there) and CB Houston/Wilson. And keep Dockery, but at most give him a $12 million signing bonus and that's being generous[/QUOTE]

That would be an excellent offseason as it would address every position of need (LG, DT, DE, MLB, and CB) and add both youth and leadership to the defense.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;282330]That would be an excellent offseason as it would address every position of need (LG, DT, DE, MLB, and CB) and add both youth and leadership to the defense.[/QUOTE]

Financially can we do it you think? That's one thing I didn't look that deep into

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[QUOTE=GiantsSuck703;282259]We did low ball Pierce, I forgot that Smoots deal was front loaded. Pierce was Low balled and many sports writers in this area said so. Honestly, I dont think we did offer anything to Clark, you definately could be right about that one.

With that said I would love to see us pick up Ken Hamlin, Dewayne White and Fred Smoot. We need to re-sign Dock, I just dont see how we can let him walk like this, it really kills me.[/QUOTE]

Actually no. In the end Smoot got offered a contract worth slightly less than the one he signed in Minny because they didn't want to pay him more than Springs and Pierce got an offer totaling exactly the same as the Giants offer. Our was simply backloaded. We did initially offer much less for Pierce but as others have said he had one good year at that point. In retrospect obviously it was a mistake to let him get away but we didn't low ball him and the decision at the time seemed to make sense.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;282332]Financially can we do it you think? That's one thing I didn't look that deep into[/QUOTE]

That's beyond my pay grade. Crazycanuck? Schneed? Anyone?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;282327]I say sign Smoot to a cap-friendly, short term deal. Sign Robaire Smith and Fletch as well. Trade the #6 and a conditional 2008 to Houston for the #8 and #39. Draft DE Anderson/Adams (one of them should be there) and CB Houston/Wilson. And keep Dockery, but at most give him a $12 million signing bonus and that's being generous[/QUOTE]

I think this would lay out as a serious impact off season without even the hint of the usual Redskins craziness. If we can pull something close to this off I'd be impressed.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;282334]That's beyond my pay grade. Crazycanuck? Schneed? Anyone?[/QUOTE]

Oh and I keep Springs, cut Salave'a, Wynn/Daniels, Hall and Patten

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;282327]Nice post. But I WANT MY NAME BACK!!! I say sign Smoot to a cap-friendly, short term deal. Sign Robaire Smith and Fletch as well. Trade the #6 and a conditional 2008 to Houston for the #8 and #39. Draft DE Anderson/Adams (one of them should be there) and CB Houston/Wilson. And keep Dockery, but at most give him a $12 million signing bonus and that's being generous

oh and Russ Grimm for the Hall of Fame ;)[/QUOTE]

$12 mil for Derrick Freaking Dockery? I can't believe I typed that. I want Dock, but is he really worth $12 mil to anyone else? I want him back, but since when has any team really outbid us for a player? Antonio Pierce and Smoot were both lowballed by us, spin it how you want but those guys should have never left Redskins Park.

I want Redskins One grounded, let some other team set the market. You don't ever see anyone signed to cap-friendly deals on the first day of free agency. But it's the summer Super Bowl so its time for the Skins to shine! I'm beginning to hate free agency...

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;282332]Financially can we do it you think? That's one thing I didn't look that deep into[/QUOTE]

I think the signing of Smoot, Smith, Fletch and Dock would be some serious cash and need several things.

First a restructure on Springs is a must. Then we probably lose Wynn and/or Daniels.

I'd love to hold onto Wynn because of his versatility but his cap num is way too high. Daniels would become expendable if we brought in a young guy like Adams or Anderson, especially if we kept Wynn.

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[QUOTE=memphisskin;282337]$12 mil for Derrick Freaking Dockery? I can't believe I typed that. I want Dock, but is he really worth $12 mil to anyone else? I want him back, but since when has any team really outbid us for a player? Antonio Pierce and Smoot were both lowballed by us, spin it how you want but those guys should have never left Redskins Park.

I want Redskins One grounded, let some other team set the market. You don't ever see anyone signed to cap-friendly deals on the first day of free agency. But it's the summer Super Bowl so its time for the Skins to shine! I'm beginning to hate free agency...[/QUOTE]

He's worth that in this market. I'd take Wade at a lower cost really if it went beyond 12 mil.

12 mil...jesus.

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Nothing new in the Post but it does sound like Smoot may be back!

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/01/AR2007030101660.html]washingtonpost.com[/url]

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;282397]Nothing new in the Post but it does sound like Smoot may be back!

[url=http://washingtonpost.com]washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines[/url][/QUOTE]

1500 posts. Congrats. So if he does come back and takes back the #21 and Taylor goes back to #36, are you changing your name to Grim36Reaper?