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irish 02-26-2007 02:09 PM

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Of course he wants to come here so he can get his payday like Bruce Smith did.

skinsfan69 02-26-2007 02:12 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;280561]I'm guessing that if we warpathers had half of the options that these players do, 75% of us would have at least two kids by two different women. If you were out drinking and you had 6 of the most beautiful women trying to take you to bed, wouldn't you probably slip up here and there even if you knew they were just after your fame, money, or both?[/quote]

I would be one slippping up SOB.

But Strahan is a freakin dumbass. He put a camera in the guest bedroom of his own house so he could peep at his wife's sister when she came to visit. That 's just plain stupid.

GTripp0012 02-26-2007 02:37 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;280517]Graham is an interesting name to note though... not sure we could afford that kind of price on a blocking TE though.[/quote]Well, if we brought him in, it would be a scheme change. He and Cooley would play TEs (Cooley's role would likely include a lot of his former H-back duties). we wouldn't use a fullback in our base package.

This move would make a lot more sense if Gibbs was calling the plays.

I don't think its going to happen, obviously. I haven't read anywhere that Washington is sniffing around him. Although we need a blocking TE, and Graham is the lone TE that could be worked into the starting offense, his prescence may be a little elaborate with Moss, Randle El, and Cooley already on board. We can't afford to outbid someone for him, and in light of this, its just not going to happen. As much as I would want it to---

That Guy 02-26-2007 05:16 PM

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what'd be real nice, is instead of paying for a new blocking TE, we got our current one to play worth a damn (or maybe signing the one we already had!). just like WRs... okay, patten at 13mill can't get it done, let's go out and buy 2 more at twice the price.

there are calculated risks, and then there's throwing money away.

Beemnseven 02-26-2007 05:45 PM

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[QUOTE=That Guy;280645][B]what'd be real nice, is instead of paying for a new blocking TE, we got our current one to play worth a damn (or maybe signing the one we already had!).[/B] just like WRs... okay, patten at 13mill can't get it done, let's go out and buy 2 more at twice the price.

there are calculated risks, and then there's throwing money away.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, or even better, how about we find a blocking tight end through undrafted free agency? How hard could that be?

SkinsFanSince91 02-26-2007 05:54 PM

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[QUOTE=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor;280483][LEFT][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]There's talk at the scouting combine in Indy that Giants defensive end Michael Strahan wants to become a member of the Washington Redskins.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]On the surface, the chances of the Giants trading Strahan within the division seem to be remote at best. But, as the rumor goes, Strahan is prepared to be difficult in the locker room if the team won't let him leave.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]The presumed motivation? Money. Strahan had a lot of it. Last month, he was ordered to give a lot of it to his ex-wife. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]And the Redskins are always willing to overpay. Especially at a time when the free-agent market doesn't contain many high-end performers at the position.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]For the Giants, moving Strahan could be a short-term curse but a long-term blessing. The team has been dysfunctional for several years, and the continued presence of guys like Strahan has not helped the situation. At all.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]With TiVi Barber and LaVar Arrington and Luke Pet-a-goat already gone, it makes sense (in our view) to continue to clear out the chronic malcontents. Like Strahan. And Plaxico Burress. And Jeremy Shockey.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]Strahan, 35, is under contract with the Giants for the next two seasons, at salaries of $4 million per year. He missed seven games due to injury in 2006.[/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT][/QUOTE]



no strahan!! Not now! Not ever!

What is this madness even considering this. the Redskins have become the one-stop-shop franchise for the old, obsolete, and money-hungry-Im-bout-to-retire-so-lemme-get-a-big-contract-b4-I-flex athletes. Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders, Mark Brunell, Regan Upshaw, Mike Barrow are just a few names of the OLD and washed up. Then we get the not-so-old and washed up players in Adam Archuleta, S. Springs, Renaldo Wynn, Phillip Daniels, Jeremiah Trotter, Brandon Llyod, and then we traded our first round and thrid round picks in 2003 for the rights to Lavernaeus Coles, only to trade him to New York for Santana Moss.

BBt just to show you how far the rabbit hole goes, guess who got drafted by the Redskins at 15th overall right b4 Santana(16th overall in 2001). [SIZE="4"][B][I][U]Muth@fckin Rod Gardner!![/U][/I][/B][/SIZE] So for three years the Skins waltz with stupidity, only to trade to get the player that we could have taken in the first fckin place!

Signing, or even thinking of adding, Strahan would be going back out on that dance floor to salsa with stupidity's cousin "[I]mental we-tall-dation![/I]."

Lets say it together class, "If I think we should sign Strahan, 'I AM WE TALL DID'." If u can undserstand that then u know the Skins need a brisk course of action in a brave and different direction if we ever plan to turn things around.

sportscurmudgeon 02-26-2007 06:09 PM

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It took until the 31st post for someone to mention Bruce Smith. So - - - there is some precedent for the Skins signing an old defensive end who used to have great stats and who wanted a payday at the end of his career.

Is Michael Strahan the next Bruce Smith in DC?

I sure hope not.

That Guy 02-26-2007 07:21 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven;280658]Yeah, or even better, how about we find a blocking tight end through undrafted free agency? How hard could that be?[/quote]

generally you take OTs that aren't good enough to be drafted or undersized... it can work (see pucillo last year).

skinsfan_nn 02-26-2007 07:32 PM

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No thanks on Strahan! He's a used up injury prone has been, looking for one more BIG "PRIMETIME" style handout. Keep the clown show in N.Y.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-26-2007 07:43 PM

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[QUOTE=SkinsFanSince91;280665]no strahan!! Not now! Not ever!

What is this madness even considering this. the Redskins have become the one-stop-shop franchise for the old, obsolete, and money-hungry-Im-bout-to-retire-so-lemme-get-a-big-contract-b4-I-flex athletes. Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders, Mark Brunell, Regan Upshaw, Mike Barrow are just a few names of the OLD and washed up. Then we get the not-so-old and washed up players in Adam Archuleta, S. Springs, Renaldo Wynn, Phillip Daniels, Jeremiah Trotter, Brandon Llyod, and then we traded our first round and thrid round picks in 2003 for the rights to Lavernaeus Coles, only to trade him to New York for Santana Moss.

BBt just to show you how far the rabbit hole goes, guess who got drafted by the Redskins at 15th overall right b4 Santana(16th overall in 2001). [SIZE="4"][B][I][U]Muth@fckin Rod Gardner!![/U][/I][/B][/SIZE] So for three years the Skins waltz with stupidity, only to trade to get the player that we could have taken in the first fckin place! [/QUOTE]

I don't think things are as bad as you make them out to be. First of all, trading our 13th pick for Coles and, eventually, Moss was one of the smartest things we did in a long time. If you wouldn't do that trade again in a heartbeat, then I'm not quite sure what to say. And hindsight is nice and all, but most scouts had Gardner and Moss neck-and-neck. Drafting Gardner didn't work out, but name me a team that hasn't had at least one 1st round bust in the past 5 years?

As for brining in aging veteran stars, we haven't done much of that since 2000 (Brunell being the only notable exception). Barrow and Upshaw were signed to tinsy, weensy signing bonuses for guys who were expected to start. Every team signs older guys and we're no exception.

SmootSmack 02-26-2007 07:51 PM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;280713]I don't think things are as bad as you make them out to be. First of all, trading our 13th pick for Coles and, eventually, Moss was one of the smartest things we did in a long time. If you wouldn't do that trade again in a heartbeat, then I'm not quite sure what to say. And hindsight is nice and all, but most scouts had Gardner and Moss neck-and-neck. Drafting Gardner didn't work out, but name me a team that hasn't had at least one 1st round bust in the past 5 years?

As for brining in aging veteran stars, we haven't done much of that since 2000 (Brunell being the only notable exception). Barrow and Upshaw were signed to tinsy, weensy signing bonuses for guys who were expected to start. Every team signs older guys and we're no exception.[/QUOTE]

Don't forget Gardner was a Marty guy. He's a much better fit for that offense than Moss would have been.

GTripp0012 02-26-2007 08:23 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;280713]I don't think things are as bad as you make them out to be. First of all, trading our 13th pick for Coles and, eventually, Moss was one of the smartest things we did in a long time. If you wouldn't do that trade again in a heartbeat, then I'm not quite sure what to say. And hindsight is nice and all, but most scouts had Gardner and Moss neck-and-neck. Drafting Gardner didn't work out, but name me a team that hasn't had at least one 1st round bust in the past 5 years?

As for brining in aging veteran stars, we haven't done much of that since 2000 (Brunell being the only notable exception). Barrow and Upshaw were signed to tinsy, weensy signing bonuses for guys who were expected to start. Every team signs older guys and we're no exception.[/quote]I don't think trading the 13th pick for Coles was all that smart. Coles was a pretty solid receiver here for one season in 2003, but I would have much rather have used the 13th pick.

Now, trading Coles for Moss looks absolutely brilliant in hindsight. What a great deal. I can't think of a more lopsided trade in recent NFL history (I guess Lloyd for a 3rd and a 4th ranks up there), and we were the beneficiary of it. The credit has to go to the FO on this one.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-26-2007 08:27 PM

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;280724]I don't think trading the 13th pick for Coles was all that smart. Coles was a pretty solid receiver here for one season in 2003, but I would have much rather have used the 13th pick. Now, trading Coles for Moss looks absolutely brilliant in hindsight. What a great deal. I can't think of a more lopsided trade in recent NFL history (I guess Lloyd for a 3rd and a 4th ranks up there), and we were the beneficiary of it. The credit has to go to the FO on this one.[/QUOTE]

You can't look at the 13th pick for Coles as totally distinct from the Coles-Moss swap. Without trading the 13th pick for Coles, we would not have gotten Moss. So, the 13th pick for Coles-Moss is a damn good trade in my mind. We've gotten production from that 13th overall pick each year.

Redskinhog1963 02-26-2007 08:30 PM

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strahain's better days are behind him,let the raiders sign him.the skins do'nt need him.

GTripp0012 02-26-2007 08:35 PM

Re: Strahan Wants To Be A Redskin
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;280727]You can't look at the 13th pick for Coles as totally distinct from the Coles-Moss swap. Without trading the 13th pick for Coles, we would not have gotten Moss. So, the 13th pick for Coles-Moss is a damn good trade in my mind. We've gotten production from that 13th overall pick each year.[/quote]Well, can't one move be bad and the other really, really great? Judging the thing as a whole sequence, I would say that it was a good move. But breaking it down, the real gem was trading a oft injured possession receiver with a knack for toughness for a top 10 receiver in this league with a knack for running between and by everyone on his way to the endzone.


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