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Gmanc711 01-23-2007 01:29 PM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clemons???
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;271820]I'm with Gmanc and say we just go with Smoot. He'll come fairly cheap, he knows the system, that'll allow us to save money for the future (gasp!) or get some depth along the line.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Look, we have two corners who can start the year and be very efficent. Shawn Springs is just as good when healthy as any of these guys. What we need is depth. I dont think we need a new starter. If we grabbed someone like Smoot, he could step in, in a 3 way type of rotation and we could actually try to DEVELOP someone.

We all know what is wrong with the Redskins and focus on free agency, I just dont see why we would go that way again. It clearly dosent work.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-23-2007 01:56 PM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
If either one wants a $20 million signing bonus (allegedly Clements is seeking as much), I'd prefer to skip both. Neither one deserves to get a bigger bonus than Champ Bailey.

Redskins_P 01-23-2007 01:58 PM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
If we could bring both in (Clements and Smoot), then moving Springs to Safety would make perfect sense. But I really doubt that will happen.

skinsfan69 01-23-2007 05:59 PM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
[quote=NFLNetwork;271742]Asante Samuel or Nate Clemons??? Quite simply..which one will we have when training camp starts in Late July??? WE WILL HAVE ONE, so decide.[/quote]

How about neither becasue both are going to command very large signing bonues. How about we trade down and perhaps get a DE and a corner. Let's face it fellow Redskins fans. The defense is not going to be fixed in one year. NO MORE HIGH PRICED FREE AGENTS.

charlielyons 01-23-2007 06:13 PM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
[quote=skinsfan69;272007]How about neither becasue both are going to command very large signing bonues. How about we trade down and perhaps get a DE and a corner. Let's face it fellow Reskins fans. The defense is not going to be fixed in one year. NO MORE HIGH PRICED FREE AGENTS.[/quote]
i completly agree

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 01-23-2007 06:19 PM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
In Today's NFL, its not that big of a deal to go from worst to first...and I'm starting to think bringing back Ol' Smooty would bring back some of the swagger. That's assuming we keep Springs at CB. If that's the case though, we're still going to need a Safety that can cover

That Guy 01-23-2007 06:21 PM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
[quote=skinsfan69;272007]How about neither becasue both are going to command very large signing bonues. How about we trade down and perhaps get a DE and a corner. Let's face it fellow Reskins fans. The defense is not going to be fixed in one year. NO MORE HIGH PRICED FREE AGENTS.[/quote]

there's a difference between high priced and overpaid. just cause dan spends a lot of money on players doesn't make them good. no one's b***hing about marcus washington, and he's making a ton.

GTripp0012 01-23-2007 07:07 PM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clemons???
 
[quote=Gmanc711;271903]Exactly. Look, we have two corners who can start the year and be very efficent. Shawn Springs is just as good when healthy as any of these guys. What we need is depth. I dont think we need a new starter. If we grabbed someone like Smoot, he could step in, in a 3 way type of rotation and we could actually try to DEVELOP someone.

We all know what is wrong with the Redskins and focus on free agency, I just dont see why we would go that way again. It clearly dosent work.[/quote]But if we are going to go out and spend on a corner anyway, why not get the best possible one we can? Carlos Rogers is best suited to play on the opposition's no. 2 Wideout. He (Rogers) is too good against the run to not have on the field.

If we get a guy like Clements, Springs can play the nickle. This will:

1) decrease the probability of an injury to Springs.
2) give us the best possible depth at the CB position.

Defensewins 01-23-2007 07:42 PM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
The bidding war for these two guys is going to prevent us from getting them. If we want to be fiscaly responsible and address all of our other needs we probably need to look else where.

Pocket$ $traight 01-23-2007 08:13 PM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
[quote=Defensewins;272034]The bidding war for these two guys is going to prevent us from getting them. If we want to be fiscaly responsible and address all of our other needs we probably need to look else where.[/quote]

I agree. If signing one of these guys prevents us from getting an MLB or DE (and we need both) then we are just pissing in the wind.

I would rather go after Smoot who will be much cheaper.

When Springs gets hurt a combination of Smoot, Rogers and Wright would be good enough until SS came back (as long as they are getting a consistent pass rush). Essentially that would be 3 #2 corners.

dall-assblows 01-23-2007 09:31 PM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
asante samuel has tremendous upside though.

Defensewins 01-23-2007 09:39 PM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;272037]I agree. If signing one of these guys prevents us from getting an MLB or DE (and we need both) then we are just pissing in the wind.
I would rather go after Smoot who will be much cheaper.
When Springs gets hurt a combination of Smoot, Rogers and Wright would be good enough until SS came back (as long as they are getting a consistent pass rush). Essentially that would be 3 #2 corners.[/QUOTE]

That is not a bad idea, it solves two needs in a responsible way. Although Smoot would have to agree to a pay cut.
I do not think corner is our #1 need. It is third.
#1 in my estimation is SS (A.Archuleta failure) is very glaring need. LB & DE is second and CB & OG are tied for third.
Safety is a very important position. Even if we draft another FS and move Sean Taylor to SS, we would be set.
I know we will draft a defensive player, most likely a DE, Safety or Corner with our 1st round pick. We have to do a better job in the draft. I am tired of over paying FA's.

djnemo65 01-24-2007 12:30 AM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
Why don't we just trade for Ty Law?

Pocket$ $traight 01-24-2007 12:51 AM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
[quote=djnemo65;272060]Why don't we just trade for Ty Law?[/quote]

What would we trade them? Also, isn't he in the same category as Springs? The general consensus is that they should utilize their draft picks as opposed to trading them for guys with limited time left in the league.

djnemo65 01-24-2007 01:18 AM

Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???
 
[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;272066]What would we trade them? Also, isn't he in the same category as Springs? The general consensus is that they should utilize their draft picks as opposed to trading them for guys with limited time left in the league.[/QUOTE]

I was kidding


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