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punch it in 03-01-2022 12:39 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
You are completely ignoring why. Lol. Trump sanctioned Venezuela and forced big oil companies to turn to Russia.

Russia became a more significant source of oil for the U.S. after the U.S. placed economic sanctions on Venezuela in 2019. In the absence of oil from Venezuela, U.S. oil companies turned to Russia for supplies.

But let’s ignore that, and everything else that Trump has done for Russia, because you know fake news, witch hunt, dems are commies (while the extreme right chants Putin at white nationalist meetings.)

punch it in 03-01-2022 12:42 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
Chico on q anon site right now looking for the correct response to my comment

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punch it in 03-01-2022 12:51 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
You are asking why Biden imported more oil from Russia as if their is some secret. Lol. The big secret is because Trump steered the oil companies there. But please do your i know you are but what am I defense. Trump would be very proud.

BaltimoreSkins 03-01-2022 12:57 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[quote=Giantone;1311373][B]comrad chico[/B]


........and the others jumping on Biden and NATO need to watch and listen to this FOX reporter........................


[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-correspondent-gives-network-092010620.html[/url][/quote]

There is a vast distance between imposing sanctions on February 21st and "boots on the ground" It is not an either or argument. We have evidence the sanctions are working. Wanting a harder line by the EU and the U.S. does not equal support for Trump nor support for boots on the ground.

Chico23231 03-01-2022 01:00 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[quote=punch it in;1311405]You are completely ignoring why. Lol. Trump sanctioned Venezuela and forced big oil companies to turn to Russia.

Russia became a more significant source of oil for the U.S. after the U.S. placed economic sanctions on Venezuela in 2019. In the absence of oil from Venezuela, U.S. oil companies turned to Russia for supplies.

But let’s ignore that, and everything else that Trump has done for Russia, because you know fake news, witch hunt, dems are commies (while the extreme right chants Putin at white nationalist meetings.)[/quote]

Biden has also restricted permits, banned fracking, stopped the keystone pipeline, etc. The previous administration had set records for avg record daily oil extraction and for the first time in 50 years! US had become an energy exporter.

Biden natural gas and gas prices have sky rocketed due to his energy policy as well has contributed to his record inflation numbers

Comrade Biden has begged opec to pump more foreign oil to make up for his failed energy policies and resorted to financially supporting a dictator in Russia with doubling crude oil imports.

What a disgrace. No wonder this country sees him as a failure

Chico23231 03-01-2022 01:14 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-russia-ukraine-legitimate-concerns[/url]

Sanders: US should 'put ourselves ... in Russia's position' because it 'might have legitimate concerns'

Bernie Sanders, a communist, naturally defending Russia.

Here, Bernie celebrating with Russian commies in the 80s:

[YT]_W3OWSvDlb4[/YT]

punch it in 03-01-2022 01:20 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
Yes Chico. The dems are all compromised by Russians and sympathetic to their cause. Only Trump would put Putin in his place. For every misguiding talking point you have for your alternate reality there are 50 that say otherwise but it is pointless to keep presenting facts to you. I honestly am embarrassed for myself for trying again.

punch it in 03-01-2022 01:49 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
Classic tho. Chico insinuating Biden is somehow in bed with Putin cus of the oil exports - explain to him this was due to Trumps actions with Venezuela and so he goes to a bernie sanders video from 1988.

nonniey 03-01-2022 02:17 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[quote=punch it in;1311405]You are completely ignoring why. Lol. Trump sanctioned Venezuela and forced big oil companies to turn to Russia.

Russia became a more significant source of oil for the U.S. after the U.S. placed economic sanctions on Venezuela in 2019. In the absence of oil from Venezuela, U.S. oil companies turned to Russia for supplies.

But let’s ignore that, and everything else that Trump has done for Russia, because you know fake news, witch hunt, dems are commies (while the extreme right chants Putin at white nationalist meetings.)[/quote]


Sanctions on Venezuela did contribute to increased reliance on Russian exports but the sanctions (on Venezuela) were and are the correct action to take. So not going to knock Trump on that (Besides do you really think that that was the dimwit's idea?). However, Bidens domestic energy policies in 2021 led to a decline of 1.2mil barrels per day of US production and deserves criticism for also contributing to the problem.

punch it in 03-01-2022 02:33 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[QUOTE=nonniey;1311422]Sanctions on Venezuela did contribute to increased reliance on Russian exports but the sanctions (on Venezuela) were and are the correct action to take. So not going to knock Trump on that (Besides do you really think that that was the dimwit's idea?). However, Bidens domestic energy policies in 2021 led to a decline of 1.2mil barrels per day of US production and deserve criticism for also contributing to the problem.[/QUOTE]


Don’t disagree. However when Chico calls him comrade Biden he is insinuating that there is some underlying reason. Biden, Bernie, and Trump - if one of them is somehow compromised by Putin it is pretty clear who it is.

It is not my life’s mission to defend Bidens every action as it is another poster to defend another Presidents.

Chico23231 03-01-2022 02:35 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[quote=punch it in;1311425]Don’t disagree. However when [B]Chico calls him comrade Biden he is insinuating that there is some underlying reason.[/B] Biden, Bernie, and Trump - if one of them is somehow compromised by Putin it is pretty clear who it is.

It is not my life’s mission to defend Bidens every action as it is another poster to defend another Presidents.[/quote]

Lol…or trolling. But continue

punch it in 03-01-2022 02:36 PM

Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1311426]Lol…or trolling. But continue[/QUOTE]


Which would be funny if there wasn’t writing all over the wall with Trump. Clearly you think that all the signs pointing to Trump n Russia are a hoax or fake news - so let’s not pretend you are simply trolling. You are trying over and over again to make it seem like there is as much tying Biden to Putin as there is Trump and show everyone how ridiculous it is to insinuate Trump has dirty Russian money, ties, or piss on his hands. It isn’t simply trolling.

Giantone 03-01-2022 04:14 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[quote=punch it in;1311427]Which would be funny if there wasn’t writing all over the wall with Trump. Clearly you think that all the signs pointing to Trump n Russia are a hoax or fake news - so let’s not pretend you are simply trolling. You are trying over and over again to make it seem like there is as much tying Biden to Putin as there is Trump and show everyone how ridiculous it is to insinuate Trump has dirty Russian money, ties, or piss on his hands. It isn’t simply trolling.[/quote]

Let's face it chico is a trump loyalist. Facts don't matter he throws shit to see if it sticks .He takes know facts about trump an thinks he can connect Biden,face it chico's trump sheep with no mind of his own. Do I think Biden is the greatest ever ,no of course not but he ain't trump and that makes him 150% better.

Biden knows he is dealing with an unstable entity in putin and is doing everything right .

Giantone 03-01-2022 04:16 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[quote=punch it in;1311419]Classic tho. Chico insinuating Biden is somehow in bed with Putin cus of the oil exports - explain to him this was due to Trumps actions with Venezuela and so he goes to a bernie sanders video from 1988.[/quote]

Next thing chico will have putin double dog dare Biden to a wrestling match.

nonniey 03-01-2022 08:59 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
1 March assessment of Operations in Ukraine.

[url]https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-1[/url]


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