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[quote=donofriose;971977]Giants are a one of the more inconsistent offenses in the league. Looking great one half and then bad the other. Then looking like the best team in the NFL and then looking terrible. They go game to go game looking completely different. Still the defense did not allow touchdowns but they also allowed the giants to hold the ball a ridiculous portion of the first half. A good defensive coordinator gets their team off the field on 3rd and 10's.[/quote]

The second half we corrected a poor showing in 3rd conversations. The Giants offense is solid.

Im not saying we dont fire Haslett at end of season, but gotta give the guy credit. The defense is playing better with limited talent.

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[quote=Chico23231;971979]The second half we corrected a poor showing in 3rd conversations. The Giants offense is solid.

Im not saying we dont fire Haslett at end of season, but gotta give the guy credit. The defense is playing better with limited talent.[/quote]

The second half was a lot better but the Giants have been playing like that the entire year. Inconsistent. Awful one week or play like they are the greatest team in the NFL. Like the Tampa Bay game. Awful one half great the next, Cincinnati they looked awful but then they crush the Packers. They score 16 on philly and lose the game and then beat down the 49ers. Defense did a good job for one half, I just would not get too excited and think now we have a capable defense.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;971940]I'm still not sold on our defense.

We need to get hits on the QB. WE NEED SACKS. We need BETTER COVERAGE. I personally think the Giants just beat themselves on Monday. They were driving on us from one end of the field all the way to the red zone and their drives would either result in a field goal, or would be an incomplete off the finger tips pass, to force a punt.

Haslett still needs to go at the end of the year.

And like I said, our offense is now our defense, because we've gotten so good teams are going to try what the Giants did; long drive to keep our offense off the field.[/quote]

You can't just say "we need sacks" or "we need better coverage". At this point in the season, your coverage unit is what is, and your pressure is what it is. What you need is a coach that understands what you do, how you do it, what your opponent is, and how they do it, then maximize your skills to minimize their points.

You say the Giants beat themselves, and I wholeheartedly agree. BUT Why did they beat themselves? Because our defense kept them from executing what they normally do, and made them do it repeatedly, and they didn't.

We are not going to be a shut down corner style team this year ever. We aren't going to win by pure blitz pressure, because our corners don't stand up to that. We will win by forcing the opponents to play mistake free, and not give up quick scores. If we do that, we win.

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one of the most crazy games ever was an Indy - Miami game. Miami's TOP was like 45 minutes. Therefore they must have won, right? nope because Every time Manning had the ball he scored(usually quickly). I see our offense getting to that point. We need to clean up some penalties, and reduce a few mental errors, but had we been down 7 instead of up 1, that 4 minute drive would have been different, and we could likely have scored, certainly if they were up 2, we were in position to kick a fg.

Lets see how we do coming off a 3 week win streak against division rivals. If we are getting where we want to be, this game won't be close.

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[quote=SmootSmack;971972]I love Jaws, but I'm not sure what he's talking about saying we confused Eli[/quote]

Eli always looks confused. Maybe Jaws dldn't know that. :)

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Since the bye the D has shown some signs of improvement. Can't just slam Haslett all the time when the D is playing bad and not acknowledge him when the D is playing better. I'm not a big fan of him but he deserves some credit right now.

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No one has said don't fire Haslett. Just giving him some props for finally realizing when you don't have great personell you have to scheme more to get results. The second half looked a whole lot better than the first. There's some jumpy damn people around here considering we're on a 3 game NFC East asskicking streak.

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If John Beck were still our QB, we would win every game by 75 points. The entire current FO should be fired for not recognizing this.

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[quote=Lotus;972004]If John Beck were still our QB, we would win every game by 75 points. The entire current FO should be fired for not recognizing this.[/quote]

I can sense sarcasm when I see it. Don't be hating on Beck. If it wasn't for Kyle Shanahan Beck would be a Superstar by now.

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[quote=Mattyk;971991]Since the bye the D has shown some signs of improvement. Can't just slam Haslett all the time when the D is playing bad and not acknowledge him when the D is playing better. I'm not a big fan of him but he deserves some credit right now.[/quote]

Haslett is not the problem. I've always sighted the secondary coach as the problem. The Redskins have done better in defense somewhat but they are still giving up long pass plays. That 49 yard pass from Manning to Cruz the other night is a prime example. Another time the secondary was beat was in the first quarter when Manning overthrew Cruz straight down the middle of the field. Madieu Williams had allowed Cruz to get past him like in the first game. This recurring problem has been going on since week 2 when they started playing that sissy soft zone crap.

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Secondary issues lie more with lack of talent/injuries. Morris isn't a miracle worker.

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Yeah we're really playing with very little talent in the secondary. You can't coach talent into someone.

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[quote=53Fan;972020]I can sense sarcasm when I see it. Don't be hating on Beck. If it wasn't for Kyle Shanahan Beck would be a Superstar by now.[/quote]

Lol.

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[quote=FRPLG;972043]Yeah we're really playing with very little talent in the secondary. You can't coach talent into someone.[/quote]

You can beat it in though, can't you?