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[quote=SFREDSKIN;848273]I hope no one posts "trade for
Orton", he is not the
Answer. The QB position will be
Addressed next year with our 1st round
Pick in the draft.[/quote]

Unfortunately though people have to realize that drafting a QB as a means of upgrading the position is a one step backward two steps forward type deal unless the QB's name is Andrew Luck and we are not touching Andrew Luck. I'm seeing a lot of people that think it would be an instant upgrade when in all liklihood it would not be (part of the reason I've always been in sort of a hurry to draft a QB).

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In actuality, things are perhaps going according to plan.

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Everyone acts like drafting a QB next year makes us a legit team lmao u guys do realize besides Luck all the others are a crap shoot

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[quote=Dirtbag59;848275]Unfortunately though people have to realize that drafting a QB as a means of upgrading the position is a one step backward two steps forward type deal unless the QB's name is Andrew Luck and we are not touching Andrew Luck. I'm seeing a lot of people that think it would be an instant upgrade when in all liklihood it would not be (part of the reason I've always been in sort of a hurry to draft a QB).[/quote]

People do that for every position. They are simply are not trained to think it terms of [I]probabilities[/I] of success. Mike Shanahan is no fool. Drafting a QB is a [I]commitment[/I] with a certain degree of [I]risk[/I]. If you're going to take one, you better be confident you scouted him out right or else you're better off getting some stars for other positions on your team.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;848282]People do that for every position. They are simply are not trained to think it terms of [I]probabilities[/I] of success. Mike Shanahan is no fool. Drafting a QB is a [I]commitment[/I] with a certain degree of [I]risk[/I]. If you're going to take one, you better be confident you scouted him out right or else you're better off getting some stars for other positions on your team.[/quote]

Didn't Shannahan already scout Beck?

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If the Rams win the Luck special. I say we trade Cooley and our 1st/3rd for their 1st.

BOOM

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[quote=44ever;848259]I dont think we should put Beck and Grossman in the same category until Beck is given a chance to prove himself. Grossman had his chance and failed as expected. (By some of us)

There is always the chance that Beck can do some good. He without a doubt makes Grossman look like slow motion.

I think given the chance Beck can lead the Redskins. He just seems to have much more raw talent and awareness than Grossman.[/quote]If today didn't provide enough evidence that Beck can't make the throws necessary to lead the offense, this is going to be a long season of trying to explain to people that the QB situation sucks.

Look, John Beck lost a QB competition to Rex Grossman five years into his career. Might the Redskins have no choice but to turn to Beck and hope for the best? Perhaps. Does that mean that our offense is so incredibly limited that we have no choice but to play a career backup? That's the obvious read here.

If the offense is so inept that Grossman is going to be put in bad situations where he can turn the ball over all season, then it's not an offense that is going to make Beck a success story. If we're making a quarterback change to limit the damaged caused by the quarterback, then fine, play John Beck.

But then we need to realize that the bar for the offense is being set at "I hope we have fewer turnovers than touchdowns." Such is the only standard in which Beck can achieve success.

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Im going to start a "Lets sign Garrard" thread.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;848279]Everyone acts like drafting a QB next year makes us a legit team lmao u guys do realize besides Luck all the others are a crap shoot[/quote]

Wrong. There will be at least 3 NFL ready QB's next year, Barkley USC, the QB from Arizona, etc. people doubted Dalton whom I wanted the Redskins to draft and what is he doing? Cam Newton?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;848275]Unfortunately though people have to realize that drafting a QB as a means of upgrading the position is a one step backward two steps forward type deal unless the QB's name is Andrew Luck and we are not touching Andrew Luck. I'm seeing a lot of people that think it would be an instant upgrade when in all liklihood it would not be (part of the reason I've always been in sort of a hurry to draft a QB).[/quote]

This is why I expect to see a total overhaul of the QB position in the offseason. I expect that at this time next year we have neither Rex nor Beck. Instead we will have a steady if unspectacular vet starting while our golden rookie learns.

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[quote=Bucket;848286]If the Rams win the Luck special. I say we trade Cooley and our 1st/3rd for their 1st.

BOOM[/quote]

I can't imagine that the Rams would make such a deal.

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The Rams will be in a bad position if they get the 1st pick. Draft Luck or do what........

I can't see a trade happening for the #1 pick.

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[quote=Bucket;848286]If the Rams win the Luck special. I say we trade Cooley and our 1st/3rd for their 1st.

BOOM[/quote]

I've been thinking the same and would offer our 1st, Landry, Davis or even Kerrigan to get Luck. Those guys can be replaced easier than a franchise QB like Luck.

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[quote=Gtothearry;848294]The Rams will be in a bad position if they get the 1st pick. Draft Luck or do what........[/quote]

Draft Luck or trade the pick for more than a 1, a 3, and Cooley. There will be serious bidding for that pick and the price will be sky high.

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[quote=Gtothearry;848294]The Rams will be in a bad position if they get the 1st pick. Draft Luck or do what........

I can't see a trade happening for the #1 pick.[/quote]

Then trade for Bradford.