Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

EB gets some credit for developing a 5th rounder in his first year starting no doubt.

There are legit gripes to have with the way he’s coordinating the offense as a whole, but I think Sam’s growth is a big plus on EB’s resume.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=MTK;1353565]EB gets some credit for developing a 5th rounder in his first year starting no doubt.

There are legit gripes to have with the way he’s coordinating the offense as a whole, but I think Sam’s growth is a big plus on EB’s resume.[/quote]

There were many "experts" that picked them to go 2-15 or 3-14.. Some had Jacoby taking over after a few games.

EB has def made a big impact on Howell.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1353567]There were many "experts" that picked them to go 2-15 or 3-14.. Some had Jacoby taking over after a few games.

EB has def made a big impact on Howell.[/QUOTE]


The “experts” were not “far off”. Lol

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

SH hasn’t played well in awhile

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

I like Sam but even when he has a good game you can tell he is someone you can win with but needs a team around him. Reminds me of a Prescott, Cousins, Goff kind of QB.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1353773]I like Sam but even when he has a good game you can tell he is someone you can win with but needs a team around him. Reminds me of a Prescott, Cousins, Goff kind of QB.[/quote]

My fuckin dreams are dashed. All I want for xmas is a qb that can win games entirely by himself with a dogshit roster around him. Peyton or bust.

Seriously I think our skill position players on offense are pretty solid, we just need to rebuild that offensive line.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[QUOTE=mredskins;1353769]SH hasn’t played well in awhile[/QUOTE]


Yeah which is not encouraging


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Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=mooby;1353776]My fuckin dreams are dashed. All I want for xmas is a qb that can win games entirely by himself with a dogshit roster around him. Peyton or bust.

Seriously I think our skill position players on offense are pretty solid, we just need to rebuild that offensive line.[/quote]

That's what I would prefer too although I am not as sold on the skills position as you.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

Over the last 3 games

1 TD
5 INTs

Not good


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353782]Over the last 3 games

1 TD
5 INTs

Not good

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My gut says, roll with Howell and get the LT in this draft. But, I'll have zero issue with a new GM taking their shot. You don't get to draft in the Top 5 often.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1353785]My gut says, roll with Howell and get the LT in this draft. But, I'll have zero issue with a new GM taking their shot. You don't get to draft in the Top 5 often.[/QUOTE]


That’s where I’m at too. If they feel like Maye or Penix is better then take him


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We aren’t getting a top 5 pick … we will screw that up and beat the Jets 😀
1-Bears via panthers 1-11 lock number 1
2-Pats 2-10 Pitt,kc,den,buf,jets lock number 2
3-Cards 3-10 bye,49ers,bears,phi,sea. 4-13
4-Washington 4-9 bye,rams,jets,49ers,dall 5-12
5-bears4-8 det,cle,arz, atl,GB 5-12
6-giants 4-8 GB,NO,Phi,Rams,Phi. 4-13
7-jets 4-8 Hou,Mia,wash,den,NE 4-13

This is my prediction we get at best 7th pick if we beat Jets in a meaningless game .. we can’t even win at losing 😀😀

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

Sam needs a better OC, a better scheme and a better line. I think a better OC will get guys open more. This gun drop back stuff isn't good for us.

Meanwhile I watch Kyle getting his guys open. McCaffrey catches passes downfield. Why isn't Gibson doing that? 🤔 Purdy running boots for a td pass. Very creative stuff by Kyle and also McDaniel. Sam just doesn't have that right now.

Look what happened to Tua when Flores got fired. He got w/ the right guy and the rest is history.

I still think Sam is the guy. He has been dealt a bad hand.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=mooby;1353776]My fuckin dreams are dashed. All I want for xmas is a qb that can win games entirely by himself with a dogshit roster around him. Peyton or bust.

[B]Seriously I think our skill position players on offense are pretty solid[/B], we just need to rebuild that offensive line.[/quote]

I think they are ok to good at parts, sub par at others, we dont have that elite offensive weapon that defenses have to account for at all times, which is why if somehow when we pick and Marvin Harrison Jr is there and we take him and then upgrade the OL with the 2 second rounders and FA I wouldnt be upset

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1353782]Over the last 3 games

1 TD
5 INTs

Not good


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Technically 4TDs if you count pick6s.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1353794]
I still think Sam is the guy. He has been dealt a bad hand.[/quote]

Ditto.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1353773]I like Sam but even when he has a good game you can tell he is someone you can win with but needs a team around him. Reminds me of a Prescott, Cousins, Goff kind of QB.[/quote]


All Howell needs is a offensive line that will give him a clean pocket for 3 seconds....

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1353803]All Howell needs is a offensive line that will give him a clean pocket for 3 seconds....[/quote]

A d an offense that doesn't live in the fucking shotgun. Fuck off EB. Bye.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1353773]I like Sam but even when he has a good game you can tell he is someone you can win with but needs a team around him. Reminds me of a Prescott, Cousins, Goff kind of QB.[/quote]

Rookie.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=Meks;1353804]A d an offense that doesn't live in the fucking shotgun. Fuck off EB. Bye.[/quote]

EB has trouble balancing out the pass and the run.....you're right. He doesn't have to call as many passes as he does,....and you're also right that he can put Howell under center more.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1353794]Sam needs a better OC, a better scheme and a better line. I think a better OC will get guys open more. This gun drop back stuff isn't good for us.

Meanwhile I watch Kyle getting his guys open. McCaffrey catches passes downfield. Why isn't Gibson doing that? 🤔 Purdy running boots for a td pass. Very creative stuff by Kyle and also McDaniel. Sam just doesn't have that right now.

Look what happened to Tua when Flores got fired. He got w/ the right guy and the rest is history.

I still think Sam is the guy. He has been dealt a bad hand.[/quote]


EB is a joke. Period.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1353794]Sam needs a better OC, a better scheme and a better line. I think a better OC will get guys open more. This gun drop back stuff isn't good for us.

Meanwhile I watch Kyle getting his guys open. McCaffrey catches passes downfield. [B]Why isn't Gibson doing that? [/B]🤔 Purdy running boots for a td pass. Very creative stuff by Kyle and also McDaniel. Sam just doesn't have that right now.

Look what happened to Tua when Flores got fired. He got w/ the right guy and the rest is history.

I still think Sam is the guy. He has been dealt a bad hand.[/quote]

I definitely feel like Gibson is catching balls downfield.

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Double post.

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[quote=mooby;1353776]My fuckin dreams are dashed. All I want for xmas is a qb that can win games entirely by himself with a dogshit roster around him. Peyton or bust.

Seriously I think our skill position players on offense are pretty solid, we just need to rebuild that offensive line.[/quote]

I honestly can't remember a QB that won games entirely by himself with a dogshit roster around him. Who was it?

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

Put Sam with a lot of other OCs with a better grasp on philosophy and game plan and he would be just fine or better. I have zero confidence in EB and I think the claims of.him making sam the 5th rounder better are more of a praise to howell than anything eb. The guy couldn't call an offense if he had it's number saved in his fucking phone.

I'm done with him. Please go coach college dude.

Done. Done with the 3&1 / 4&1 shotgun bullshit.
Done with the 80% of the game shotgun bullshit.
Done with him not calling plays for #17 bullshit.
Done with him not running the ball fucking bullshit.
Done... Done... done... Done Done Done bullshit.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

Yeah I was a fan of EB up until the last 3 games. He can go too


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there is something in SH worth pursing; I just hate for us to pass on a QB in the draft that the new regime likes; I say draft him and have SH battle it out with the new guy; sign the best man standing at the end

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353813]Yeah I was a fan of EB up until the last 3 games. He can go too


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Everyone needs to go, flush the whole staff

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[quote=mredskins;1353817]there is something in SH worth pursing; I just hate for us to pass on a QB in the draft that the new regime likes; I say draft him and have SH battle it out with the new guy; sign the best man standing at the end[/quote]

Yeah, when you look at the upcoming QB draft class along with a high draft pick…QB needs to be top of mind.

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[quote=MTK;1353821]Everyone needs to go, flush the whole staff[/quote]

I agree with this except for 2 coaches - I think it's worth for the new regime to consider retaining Jennifer King and Tavita Pritchard. Jennifer has done a pretty good job with our RBs. It seems like Tavita is doing a good job with Howell so far.

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[quote=Chico23231;1353825]Yeah, when you look at the upcoming QB draft class along with a high draft pick…QB needs to be top of mind.[/quote]

I am not going to be upset if they go QB or roll with Sam either way it is a win as far as I am concerned. My personal preference is if they feel a draft QB is going to be the guy going forward is to try to flip Sam for draft pick(s) if the price is right. No need to have a QB controversy also.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=mooby;1353776]My fuckin dreams are dashed. All I want for xmas is a qb that can win games entirely by himself with a dogshit roster around him. Peyton or bust.

Seriously I think our skill position players on offense are pretty solid, we just need to rebuild that offensive line.[/quote]

didn't peyton throw 28 interceptions his rookie year? lol

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

The new regime can do whatever the hell they want. They deserve the chance to proceed as they see fit. God knows the status quo isn't working.

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It would be funny If Sam was to end up in Minnesota and flourish… hmmm

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Washington twitter has all but moved on from SH.. Crazy what a few weeks can do

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353852]Washington twitter has all but moved on from SH.. Crazy what a few weeks can do[/quote]

Pick 6s three weeks in a row will do that. The one from yesterday was as bad a throw as I can recall. Woof.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

The Joe Thiesman throw in the Super Bowl against the Raiders was worse …. EVERY QB that’s ever played has that type of pick …. Sam is standing tough and has no support cast … I hope he doesn’t become shell shocked because it’s gonna get worse .. the team has quit !

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[quote=calia;1353860]Pick 6s three weeks in a row will do that. The one from yesterday was as bad a throw as I can recall. Woof.[/quote]

That wasn't a bad throw by Howell. The LB simply made a great play by reading the play quickly and immediately got into the throwing lane. Howell barely had a second to hold the ball and throw, it would be difficult for Howell (and most QBs) to recognize the LB reacting to the play and throw the ball within 1-2 second..

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[quote=GridIron26;1353868]That wasn't a bad throw by Howell. The LB simply made a great play by reading the play quickly and immediately got into the throwing lane. Howell barely had a second to hold the ball and throw, it would be difficult for Howell (and most QBs) to recognize the LB reacting to the play and throw the ball within 1-2 second..[/quote]

Plus Wiley must have read where he was going and knew he'd be in the path. A top OT would pursue and push him out of the play. Wiley just let him go.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=Meks;1353807]EB is a joke. Period.[/quote]

He seriously sucks really bad. Whenever he gets in short yardage he calls a stupid ass shotgun play that never works. He always has BR running sideways. I just don't like that, I hate his run calls. Has he called one bootleg for Sam? His playaction is horrible and it is mostly out of gun which fools no one.

Do not want him here. Turner was better w/ a worse QB.

Idk.. I just see all these guys that use to work here having success and we just can't seem to get it right. Ever.