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SmootSmack 12-28-2011 01:57 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;870740]Hey Smootsmack, did you work for the Redskins at one time?[/quote]

Directly for them? No, never. Almost, but no

diehard 12-28-2011 02:00 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=The Goat;870709]Ironical indeed...Jason Campbell is likely the top (available) FA QB since Oakland committed to Palmer. Ohhhh Mike and Kyle you guys make it so much fun!![/quote]

If I recall, Shanahan just wanted Campbell to compete not for Campbell to leave. Too many people in this world want to something for nothing. And no, I won't mention Barkley in this thread.

The Goat 12-28-2011 02:21 PM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=diehard;870752]If I recall, Shanahan just wanted Campbell to compete not for Campbell to leave. Too many people in this world want to something for nothing. And no, I won't mention Barkley in this thread.[/quote]

I don't blame JC for not "competing." He was, and is, better than each QB Mike and Kyle brought in. And...he was already in DC and didn't cost picks etc.

Shadowbyte 12-29-2011 02:53 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=The Goat;870759]I don't blame JC for not "competing." He was, and is, better than each QB Mike and Kyle brought in. And...he was already in DC and didn't cost picks etc.[/quote]

This is why I'm starting to believe we're a snakebitten franchise. I don't know maybe some disgrutled native Americans put a hex on the team due to their disdian for our name. Anyways, just seems that players perform better once they leave D.C which shouldn't be the case. Rogers and A. Carter are just the latest examples, no pro-bowlers this year but the 2 we though we could do without end up making the pro-bowl. Hell, if Rogers would of played for us like the did for the 49ers this year we would of been a playoff bound team last year.

As for J.C, since when did he learn to complete the deep ball? I can't count how many time he missed open recievers deep, however he's made some amazing deep throws to Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford in Oakland. Eventhough I wasn't a JC fan in his defense we never really built around him. Didn't get him a left tackle, didn't get him a solid core of recievers, all he had was a running back and a TE, which would rationalize why he turned into Captain checkdown when he played for us.

SBXVII 12-29-2011 09:04 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
Since we're talking about the 2012 Skins ......

I don't like hearing Washington DC and Maryland making a push for the Redskins to move their home office from Ashburn, VA to DC or Maryland. The Skins have played in DC for years but their office/practice facility has always been in VA. I'll be pissed if they move out of VA.

Maryland has rhe Baltimore Ravens
DC used to have the Redskins games every Sunday

VA has nothing but the home office or practice facility. I don't know what I'll do if they move. Taking what little us VA fans have as a home team away from us will definitely leave me feeling like Colts fans of the 70's and Brown fans when their teams packed and left.... very bitter.

MTK 12-29-2011 09:32 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=diehard;870752]If I recall, [B]Shanahan just wanted Campbell to compete not for Campbell to leave[/B]. Too many people in this world want to something for nothing. And no, I won't mention Barkley in this thread.[/quote]

Not sure what you mean since MS traded him. How did he just want him to compete and not for him to leave?

Chico23231 12-29-2011 10:23 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=SmootSmack;870750]Directly for them? No, never. Almost, but no[/quote]

SS, have you heard any plans for the secondary? D Hall back? Barnes future, is it Safety or CB? Laron?

#56fanatic 12-29-2011 10:32 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=Mattyk;870706]We definitely need some fresh faces at QB. I've just about had enough with Grossman and his 2 turnovers per game. I think the Shannys have had it too.[/quote]


I agree with the 2 turnover a game thing, but realistically Rex will be back next year. He isn't going to get a starting job anywhere, and what better backup position is there? He could still end up starting if the rookie isn't ready. And the last few weeks (aside the picks) the offense has looked pretty decent and avg about 20+ a game.

SmootSmack 12-29-2011 10:38 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=Chico23231;870887]SS, have you heard any plans for the secondary? D Hall back? Barnes future, is it Safety or CB? Laron?[/quote]

Haven't heard anything

Hog1 12-29-2011 10:40 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=SmootSmack;870892]Haven't heard anything[/quote]
Pft......come on man..

MTK 12-29-2011 11:00 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=#56fanatic;870890]I agree with the 2 turnover a game thing, but realistically Rex will be back next year. He isn't going to get a starting job anywhere, and what better backup position is there? He could still end up starting if the rookie isn't ready. And the last few weeks (aside the picks) the offense has looked pretty decent and avg about 20+ a game.[/quote]

I've got no problem with him coming back as a backup. I just don't want to see him starting.

His turnovers are killers. I don't think you can just overlook them and say well the offense is playing better. 2 turnovers a game from one player is very difficult to overcome. You just can't win games consistently with a QB like him.

redsk1 12-29-2011 11:29 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=Mattyk;870896]I've got no problem with him coming back as a backup. I just don't want to see him starting.

His turnovers are killers. I don't think you can just overlook them and say well the offense is playing better. 2 turnovers a game from one player is very difficult to overcome. You just can't win games consistently with a QB like him.[/quote]

We'll have alot of questions answered by April. You are right, you can't have 2 TO's a game and expect to win. No doubt about it. Our problem is we don't have another viable option besides sticking a rookie in there. I'm assuming we'll have one qb from the draft. If its Luck/RGIII then we might start them, if not, do you throw them in the mix right out of college? We might need Rex to start next year. He knows the offense. He'll have a better oline, better run game, and more playmakers. The TO's are frustrating, but he does know the offense very well.

You could dump Rex and sign another FA, but options are limited there too.

skinsfan69 12-29-2011 11:33 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=SBXVII;870870]Since we're talking about the 2012 Skins ......

I don't like hearing Washington DC and Maryland making a push for the Redskins to move their home office from Ashburn, VA to DC or Maryland. The Skins have played in DC for years but their office/practice facility has always been in VA. I'll be pissed if they move out of VA.

Maryland has rhe Baltimore Ravens
DC used to have the Redskins games every Sunday

VA has nothing but the home office or practice facility. I don't know what I'll do if they move. Taking what little us VA fans have as a home team away from us will definitely leave me feeling like Colts fans of the 70's and Brown fans when their teams packed and left.... very bitter.[/quote]

Why would it matter? It's not like you can go watch them practice, except the few that are open in training camp.

skinsfan69 12-29-2011 11:38 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
So here we are, going into year 3 and we still don't have a QB. The Shanahan's have REALLY screwed up the QB situation here. Did they really think that Rex and Beck were the answers? Snyder has got to be steaming mad.

SmootSmack 12-29-2011 11:44 AM

Re: 2012 redskins
 
[quote=skinsfan69;870910]So here we are, going into year 3 and we still don't have a QB. The Shanahan's have REALLY screwed up the QB situation here. Did they really think that Rex and Beck were the answers? Snyder has got to be steaming mad.[/quote]

I don't think they ever thought Rex and Beck were the answers. I'm not sure they even thought McNabb was the long-term answer. I think what they thought was they loved, loved, loved Bradford but couldn't move up to #1 for him, and they liked Locker but not enough to do anything more than see if he was there at #10 last year.

So yeah they haven't gotten a QB, but they've worked on other areas of the team. This should (I'll even say will) be the offseason the Redskins get the QB they feel will be the answer for them.

I mean we're not going into year 3 yet, it's more that we're ending year 2


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