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[quote=Giantone;1191012]Pence is a fucking loon!

(snip bs)

][/quote]Stop lying, giantone


[URL="https://www.truthorfiction.com/mike-pence-supports-electroshock-gay-conversion-therapy/"]https://www.truthorfiction.com/mike-pence-supports-electroshock-gay-conversion-therapy/[/URL]

"So, it’s true that Mike Pence has been a vocal opponent of gay rights. It’s also true that referred to “institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior” in a 2000 campaign statement. However, “change their sexual behavior” is a broad term that could mean a number of different things, and we haven’t found any instances of Pence saying on the record that he supports gay conversion therapy or electroshock gay conversion therapy."

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[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1191065]How so?[/QUOTE]


Seriously?

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[quote=Giantone;1190904]This has nothing to do with what I was responding to in Mooby's post. Matty is right,he is just fucking weird.Pence wants women back to the way they where in the 30's and 40's.........................fuck that.[/quote]BS. Here is the exchange:

[quote]
[QUOTE=mooby;1190863]The code says you can sin all you want, you just need to repent Matty. As long as Trump seeks forgiveness in the eyes of the Lord it's all good. Besides, the good Lord blessed Stormy Daniels with a huge set of knockers, who wouldn't be tempted by those?[/quote]
[quote=Giantone;1190868]Pence?:D[/quote]
[quote=HailGreen28;1190878]See, crap like all this is why Pence tries to avoid putting himself in any compromising position with women, long before #metoo....(snip) [/quote]
[/QUOTE]

Your post was a dig at how Pence handles himself with women, regardless how you take your post. Which is exactly what I replied to.

Citation needed on Pence "wants women back to the way they where in the 30's and 40's". You've been caught in one lie already this page.

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[quote=MTK;1191067]Seriously?[/quote]Seriously. So far there's been nothing but strawmanning or outright lies for character attacks. On a guy who DOESN'T do the crap Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, and Harvey Weinstien did.

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[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1191069]Seriously. So far there's been nothing but strawmanning or outright lies for character attacks. On a guy who DOESN'T do the crap Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, and Harvey Weinstien did.[/QUOTE]


Build a case as to why you think he’s normal

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[quote=MTK;1191070]Build a case as to why you think he’s normal[/quote]I don't see any indication he's weird. Well, anybody weirder than people including me who say... are on boards like this.

Pence doesn't look weird, he's married longterm, with kids, put him in a lineup with Trump, Pelosi, and Schumer, and he looks like the most likable normal person.

You did make the original assertion he was weird, Matty. I've proven a negative as much as possible, but the burden of proof is really on you to prove he is weird.

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I thought his views on women were enough to label him weird, so how about this

[url]https://news.avclub.com/donald-trump-s-running-mate-is-apparently-a-bit-of-a-fi-1798249440[/url]

Oh and he’s an evangelical, weird

He calls his wife Mother, really weird

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Mike Pence...............,he's an ass!


[url]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/think-trump-is-scary-check-out-mike-pence-on-the-issues_us_57f137d5e4b095bd896a11db[/url]



[url=http://www.upworthy.com/20-things-mike-pence-did-while-you-werent-looking-and-why-it-matters]20 things Mike Pence did while you weren't looking — and why it matters.[/url]


[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pence-beliefs-about-abortion-gay-marriage-women-reporters-2017-6#pence-didnt-want-women-serving-in-the-military-he-wrote-in-a-1999-op-ed-that-mulan-was-liberal-propaganda-and-proof-that-women-in-the-military-doesnt-work-referring-to-her-love-interest-in-another-soldier-1]Ten things to know about Mike Pence - Business Insider[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1191091]I thought his views on women were enough to label him weird, so how about this

[url]https://news.avclub.com/donald-trump-s-running-mate-is-apparently-a-bit-of-a-fi-1798249440[/url][/quote]

Pence makes a good point about fraternization, ironically enough, in Mulan. It's something the military has issues with today. I disagree about banning women from all military role, but what specifically do you find weird about that link?

[quote=MTK;1191091]Oh and he’s an evangelical, weird[/quote]

I find some atheists weirder than some evangelicals, go figure. You're going to have to go further in describing what you find weird about Mike Pence specifically. Looking at the breathless hyperventilating leftist criticism about what Pence says vs what Oprah says about talking to God, is illuminating in itself. LOL. Do you consider Oprah weird?

[quote=MTK;1191091]He calls his wife Mother, really weird[/quote]

YMMV. For example, when you had kids, or knew someone with kids, you actually mean to tell me mothers weren't referred to as Mom and fathers as Dad or such, by spouses, when with the kids? Wow, if so.

The norm is eastern North Carolina is to still do that like say discussing family business with the kids even after they grow up. Most people seem to drop it in most cases as the kids get older. But OTOH grandmothers are frequently called "Granny" or "Mema" or such by all family, even among mixed company. And that's kinda cool.

Looking at articles that again breathlessly spin Pence's behavior as "weird", read the comments below where available, apparently the custom of spouses still calling each other Mom Dad or similar a lot longer than I described, is a fairly common.

If critics of Pence don't at least understand this custom, they are the weird ones. Or maybe they are just psychopaths that never had families of their own.

But of course the real reason lefties hyperventilates and calls Pence weird over this stuff is simple. This is the toxicity in politics, this time from the Left, that ruins so much.

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[quote=Giantone;1191125]Mike Pence...............,he's an ass!


[url]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/think-trump-is-scary-check-out-mike-pence-on-the-issues_us_57f137d5e4b095bd896a11db[/url]



[url=http://www.upworthy.com/20-things-mike-pence-did-while-you-werent-looking-and-why-it-matters]20 things Mike Pence did while you weren't looking — and why it matters.[/url]


[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pence-beliefs-about-abortion-gay-marriage-women-reporters-2017-6#pence-didnt-want-women-serving-in-the-military-he-wrote-in-a-1999-op-ed-that-mulan-was-liberal-propaganda-and-proof-that-women-in-the-military-doesnt-work-referring-to-her-love-interest-in-another-soldier-1]Ten things to know about Mike Pence - Business Insider[/url][/quote]Giantone, you basically posted three articles of Gish Gallop, more smear and strawmanning as usual. How about we slow down our convo, at least until mine with Matty is done.

Let's start with this link you posted earlier:

[quote=HailGreen28;1191066]Stop lying, giantone

[IMG]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/191/698/4c2.jpg[/IMG]


[URL="https://www.truthorfiction.com/mike-pence-supports-electroshock-gay-conversion-therapy/"]https://www.truthorfiction.com/mike-pence-supports-electroshock-gay-conversion-therapy/[/URL]

"So, it’s true that Mike Pence has been a vocal opponent of gay rights. It’s also true that referred to “institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior” in a 2000 campaign statement. However, “change their sexual behavior” is a broad term that could mean a number of different things, and we haven’t found any instances of Pence saying on the record that he supports gay conversion therapy or electroshock gay conversion therapy."[/quote]Do you agree now that the link you posted there was BS, or do we need to go into this in more detail first?

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One man’s weirdo is another man’s normal I guess. Pence is fucking weird, period.

Anytime someone tries to sell themselves as being super moral/family values shit it usually means they’re creeps.

And yeah Oprah is definitely weird too

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[quote=HailGreen28;1191127]Giantone, you basically posted three articles of Gish Gallop, more smear and strawmanning as usual. How about we slow down our convo, at least until mine with Matty is done.

Let's start with this link you posted earlier:

Do you agree now that the link you posted there was BS, or do we need to go into this in more detail first?[/quote]
Read the links I posted ,no I won't call it BS, maybe it's spun a little but he believes in it.........get real.


Again you're spinning to make yourself feel good and that's great for you but the truth is there in the links.



This is not made up....


[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pence-beliefs-about-abortion-gay-marriage-women-reporters-2017-6#in-2000-pence-wrote-an-op-ed-in-which-he-said-smoking-doesnt-kill-the-article-resurfaced-during-the-2016-election-partly-because-of-pences-seemingly-confusing-claims-he-said-in-that-same-op-ed-smoking-is-not-good-for-you-2]Ten things to know about Mike Pence - Business Insider[/url]



"While running for Congress in 2000, Pence wrote on his website that money funding research for HIV/AIDS should be moved to fund conversion therapy, "which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior."


Did he say electrical ,no, no he did not. Yet that was what he was talking about ,deny if you want but he is a loon!


The GOP in Indiana is ....is in super correction mode.

[url]https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/09/pence-gone-fellow-republicans-undo-his-work/97699694/[/url]

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Conversion therapy...

#facepalm

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[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/fbi-raids-office-of-trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen.html[/url]

So is it fake news or FBI Democrats getting desperate? Or maybe the deep state is panicking. Wonder which judge they had to bribe to authorize warrants?

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[quote=mooby;1192290][url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/fbi-raids-office-of-trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen.html[/url]

So is it fake news or FBI Democrats getting desperate? Or maybe the deep state is panicking. Wonder which judge they had to bribe to authorize warrants?[/quote]

So you have a no problem with a lawyer making payoffs that might very well come from campaign contributions to cover up sexual misbehaviour by a presidential candidate? Trumps team is dirty as hell,just like their boss.