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calia 10-28-2024 05:05 PM

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It's pretty amazing how the Texans used the Watson trade to rebuild and how the Bears used the Bryce Young pick by the Panthers to do the same. And even more amazing to see how we've progressed in the absence of some massive thing like that (although the Sweat trade was helpful this last time around). It underscores how sharp our FO is now, and what good coaching can do. Watching DQ and AP celebrate yesterday was pretty awesome -- hard to imagine that ever happening with any of our coaches and GMs since the Gibbs/Bethard, Casserly days.

skinsfan69 10-28-2024 10:51 PM

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I have seen this scenario a few times now and I don't get it. When a team is down 8 they'll go for 2 to try and get it to 6. Why? Is this some nerdy ass analytics nonsense? All this stuff does is lose games. Daboll just tried this and called the dumbest play.

This is the best Russell Wilson has looked in years. He still is a great down field thrower.

WCommandersfan99 10-28-2024 11:39 PM

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[quote=calia;1366439]Wow -- Chiefs trading a 6th to NE for Josh Uche. Good deal for KC.[/quote]Give me Brett Veach over about any gm in football. Dude is amazing and still fairly young also. He's a massive reason for the Chiefs current dynasty.

WCommandersfan99 10-28-2024 11:43 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1366456]I have seen this scenario a few times now and I don't get it. When a team is down 8 they'll go for 2 to try and get it to 6. Why? Is this some nerdy ass analytics nonsense? All this stuff does is lose games. Daboll just tried this and called the dumbest play.

This is the best Russell Wilson has looked in years. He still is a great down field thrower.[/quote]Starting to wonder when Daboll is getting fired. He is nearing that territory at this point. We may be the team to cause it considering a Commanders victory would push them to 2-7. I do not like playing at the Meadowlands. Still think this will be a game considering our emotional, slugfest with the Bears and Daboll/Jones fighting for their careers. Think it's a matter of when/not if for both of them barring a significant season change.

WCommandersfan99 10-28-2024 11:44 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1366456]
This is the best Russell Wilson has looked in years. He still is a great down field thrower.[/quote]He is enjoying playing again. He did not look happy at all in Denver. Him and Payton never clicked is an understatement. Players seem to love playing for Tomlin and Arthur Smith is good with offense.

calia 10-29-2024 03:19 PM

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Dionte Johnson plus a 6th to the Ravens in exchange for a 5th. My goodness, the Panthers are a terrible franchise. A 5th and 6th round pick swap for Johnson. Sheesh. The Panthers got fleeced.


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jdlea 10-29-2024 04:10 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1366456]I have seen this scenario a few times now and I don't get it. When a team is down 8 they'll go for 2 to try and get it to 6. Why? Is this some nerdy ass analytics nonsense? All this stuff does is lose games. Daboll just tried this and called the dumbest play.

This is the best Russell Wilson has looked in years. He still is a great down field thrower.[/quote]

I actually saw some rationale for this recently. It is analytics driven. Here's an article that is more convoluted than the explanation that I couldn't track down, but has the same info:
[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28100383/going-2-8-points-why-nfl-teams-keep-doing-why-analytics-backs-up[/url]

Essentially, going for 2 earlier means you have a much better shot of winning in regulation

GridIron26 10-29-2024 05:13 PM

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[quote=calia;1366475]Dionte Johnson plus a 6th to the Ravens in exchange for a 5th. My goodness, the Panthers are a terrible franchise. A 5th and 6th round pick swap for Johnson. Sheesh. The Panthers got fleeced.


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It does seem that way although, Johnson is on last year of his current contract so there is no guarantee that Ravens will have him next year. Plus, the market for Johnson might not have been strong as we would think so it is possible that this offer was the best one Panthers got.

calia 10-29-2024 05:21 PM

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[QUOTE=GridIron26;1366478]It does seem that way although, Johnson is on last year of his current contract so there is no guarantee that Ravens will have him next year. Plus, the market for Johnson might not have been strong as we would think so it is possible that this offer was the best one Panthers got.[/QUOTE]


All possibly right - but the Ravens definitely needed WR help and they’ll be a playoff team for sure. Still a worthwhile trade for a day 3 pick swap.


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htownskinfan 10-29-2024 06:56 PM

Re: Around the NFL week 8
 
[quote=SkinsGuru;1366428]it was worse than a free agent signing as they game up 3 1's and more to trade for him, then gave him that huge contract . . . thank God little Danny was out of money by then or it might have been us!!![/quote]

That aint no shit! And I would have been right there with him,I wanted Watson,I dont know what happened to that dude,I thought he was pretty damn good in Houston

SkinsGuru 10-29-2024 07:55 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;1366481]That aint no shit! And I would have been right there with him,I wanted Watson,I dont know what happened to that dude,I thought he was pretty damn good in Houston[/quote]

He was really good in Houston . . . i just think his head isn't there anymore!


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