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Not saying he is a 2nd tier I think he is a top 5 WR, saying he could be replaced by a 2nd tier WR and I don't think you'd see a decline in Miami's success. Personally I like Brown and Allen way more than him and think they are more important to whether their team will win or lose.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353752]He had 4 plus years to build a winning team and failed miserably.

This whole organization is the bottom of the league in everything it does.

Can Harris change it? Yes but at this point I doubt he will. Just so hard to believe in this organization anymore


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Damn dude. You used to be 1 of the most positive people here. Snyder is finally gone after Week 17 (this is still a Snyder year), and you've gone to the dark side. Weird timing imo.

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[url]https://x.com/coach_jaygruden/status/1731419753720279053?s=46[/url]


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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1353783]Damn dude. You used to be 1 of the most positive people here. Snyder is finally gone after Week 17 (this is still a Snyder year), and you've gone to the dark side. Weird timing imo.[/QUOTE]


Eh it’s just I’m tired of losing bro. I’ll be fine once the season is over and we get a new staff and GM


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[url]https://x.com/nbc4sports/status/1731426269428846898?s=46[/url]

I’m literally crying this shit is so fucking funny


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353796][url]https://x.com/nbc4sports/status/1731426269428846898?s=46[/url]

I’m literally crying this shit is so fucking funny


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This one is hard to watch. Allen deserves better.
Reminds me of Ken Harvey. Wasting away on a shitty team.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353796][url]https://x.com/nbc4sports/status/1731426269428846898?s=46[/url]

I’m literally crying this shit is so fucking funny


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Could anyone make out the last question in the interview?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353725]Terry Mclaurin = 0 Catches today

What the hell happened ???


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Eric Bienemy happened

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353786][url]https://x.com/coach_jaygruden/status/1731419753720279053?s=46[/url]


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Jay Gruden:

“4-5 years now. Figured culture would have been the difference.”

The culture bullshit is overrated. Ron and multi-time loser GM Martin Meyhew mismanaged this roster from day 1 when they chose Chase Young over solid QB prospects.

Then they went on to decimate the Oline moving on from Trent, Schreff and Morgan Moses. Gave the big contract to injury prone Center which will still will be paying on next year. Missed on all free agent Oline players.

They ignored LB position, missing on Jamin Davis. Giving a huge contract to a CB who couldn’t play zone.

Quan Martin and Mathis literally throw away second round picks which most agree were taking way too high. They have contributed absolutely nothing to this team.

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Culture is important, but it's not going to win you football games over talent.

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Studs and Duds: [url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/12/4/23986854/washington-commanders-vs-miami-dolphins-studs-and-duds[/url]

Spoiler alert: One list has Tress Way the other has Cameron Cheeseman. See if you can guess which before clicking on the link!

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𝗧𝗥𝗘𝗡𝗗𝗜𝗡𝗚: #Commanders star DL Jonathan Allen says he “1000 percent” thinks about leaving the team, he told @JunksRadio

He also hinted at being open to a trade.

“1000%. I’d be lying if i said I didn’t. I play this game to win and I would love to win here for sure but I want to win first and foremost. So that’s always going to be at the front and center of my mind and everything I’m going to be doing in my career is going to make sure I’ll have an opportunity to win.”


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Hmmmmm....

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J P Finlay -
Interesting comments from Jon Allen about his future in Washington, says he wants to win in DC but eventually, “I do want to win…I’m not in the business of going through another rebuild.” Says he’s focused on last 4 games but will evaluate things in offseason. Good intvw w @JunksRadio.
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Honestly, just trade Allen. He's a good player. But he isn't helping us win. Trade him and get a 3rd/4th rounder. Build around Payne.

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I think u can get a 2nd for Allen. He was an all pro last year. And he’s still in his prime. I agree tho, trade most of these guys that are valuable


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Why I wouldn't take for granted that anyone besides Howell will be back next year, including Allen, Payne and Terry. If they are in demand and you can get decent picks for them the new FO/HC may opt for a completely clean slate.

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Remember week 2? Lol. We had a couple real sloppy wins and people were acting like we had turned a corner? So many other teams actually turned a corner including both the teams we beat. They improved. We have literally gotten worse with Ron at the helm. God he can’t be gone soon enough.

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Silver lining, the Cards won and might win again! Draft position baby.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353831]𝗧𝗥𝗘𝗡𝗗𝗜𝗡𝗚: #Commanders star DL Jonathan Allen says he “1000 percent” thinks about leaving the team, he told @JunksRadio

He also hinted at being open to a trade.

“1000%. I’d be lying if i said I didn’t. I play this game to win and I would love to win here for sure but I want to win first and foremost. So that’s always going to be at the front and center of my mind and everything I’m going to be doing in my career is going to make sure I’ll have an opportunity to win.”


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How stupid was it not to trade Allen to Seattle for a second? Incompetent front office regardless if Snyder is here or not

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1353834]Honestly, just trade Allen. He's a good player. But he isn't helping us win. Trade him and get a 3rd/4th rounder. Build around Payne.[/quote]

I'd be willing to put anyone on the trade block.

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Pretty impressive

I didn't even know that many people from south beach gave a damn about football

[url]https://twitter.com/Barstooldmv/status/1731399572541366476[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1353843]I'd be willing to put anyone on the trade block.[/quote]

This 100%! I said it before the trade deadline and was happy they dealt the DEs. If you can get a 2nd for Allen, he's gone...Terry too. As bad as the roster looks on the field right now, it's not that bad...coaching matters folks just look at the Texans this year who were predicted to contend for the worst record in the league this season. Things can turn around quickly with a good offense and an average defense. Others have said it already, but the GM hire will be the most important....hopefully ownership can find the next Bill Polian or Bobby Beathard.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1353843]I'd be willing to put anyone on the trade block.[/QUOTE]


Me too. There is not one player (payne?) that I deem untouchable. That is an absolutely absurd statement to make in year 4 of what was supposed to be a rebuild. Rivera somehow made that God awful team he inherited worse. He should win an award for such an accomplishment.

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[quote=MTK;1353843]I'd be willing to put anyone on the trade block.[/quote]

I have some I'd like to see stay...mostly for selfish reasons though. Like dotson. Local kid to me, and I got his jersey. Really wanna see him flourish.

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[QUOTE=Redskins247;1353845]This 100%! I said it before the trade deadline and was happy they dealt the DEs. If you can get a 2nd for Allen, he's gone...Terry too. As bad as the roster looks on the field right now, it's not that bad...coaching matters folks just look at the Texans this year who were predicted to contend for the worst record in the league this season. Things can turn around quickly with a good offense and an average defense. Others have said it already, but the GM hire will be the most important....hopefully ownership can find the next Bill Polian or Bobby Beathard.[/QUOTE]


I think the roster is awful. Maybe the worst in the league. That is what happens when an idiot like Rivera gets complete control. There is not a single olineman, db, lb, te, or edge rusher that is worth a shit. Idc what the scheme is you cant fix dumb or slow.

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This is the slowest defense in the league. LB , DBs are TRASH.

People saying scheme killed us yesterday LOL No it didn't, we just suck and have slow ass CBs.

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Jay Gruden was a way better coach

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353850]Jay Gruden was a way better coach[/quote]

He certainly was a good offensive coach...tell me a team like the Steelers wouldn't benefit having him as their OC? How does he have not a job?

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Somehow, we are going to give up 37 points during the bye week.

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The only way Rivera could do any more damage to the franchise would be to win a couple of the remaining games and reduce the value of our 2024 draft picks.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353849]This is the slowest defense in the league. LB , DBs are TRASH.

People saying scheme killed us yesterday LOL No it didn't, we just suck and have slow ass CBs.[/quote]

Both can be true. I still think the former sucks more so than the latter.

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Also how do you not get #17 one catch? How the hell does that happen?? Idk if he isn't getting open or not, but move him around. Put him in the slot, motion him, hell line him up in the backfield and motion him out. I have yet to see EB scheme anything to get him open. You always get your so called best guy the ball. Yesterday? Nothing. I'm sorry but that is on the OC.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1353875]Also how do you not get #17 one catch? How the hell does that happen?? Idk if he isn't getting open or not, but move him around. Put him in the slot, motion him, hell line him up in the backfield and motion him out. I have yet to see EB scheme anything to get him open. You always get your so called best guy the ball. Yesterday? Nothing. I'm sorry but that is on the OC.[/quote]

He never had trouble getting open in Grudens or Turners offences

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[quote=skinsfan69;1353875]Also how do you not get #17 one catch? How the hell does that happen?? Idk if he isn't getting open or not, but move him around. Put him in the slot, motion him, hell line him up in the backfield and motion him out. I have yet to see EB scheme anything to get him open. You always get your so called best guy the ball. Yesterday? Nothing. I'm sorry but that is on the OC.[/quote]

EB is done here. His future in D.C. has been tied to Rivera's fate since it became obvious that he does not have what it takes to succeed Rivera as HC here. I expect Rivera and EB to be fired on the same day after the season ends.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1353878]He never had trouble getting open in Grudens or Turners offences[/quote]

[url]https://x.com/WASHREDSKlNS/status/1730930014965596565?t=X-JP1L-MAe4A0P9E7iSaEQ&s=01[/url]

No, he didn't.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1353878]He never had trouble getting open in Grudens or Turners offences[/quote]

True. That is why I do not buy that these guys can not get open. You can formation and motion them to help get them open.

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jay was an extremely average coach. He'd be a huge upgrade.

I'm also kinda surprised he seems to continue following/talking about the team.

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Miami has been proven right in firing Brian Flores. He was a disaster compared to where they are today

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353763]Tyreke is on pace for 2000 yards. Would be an nfl record

MVP


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I owe you an apology here, Miami's O was straight garbage without Hill last night

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If you feel like puking watch episode 3 of the in season hard knocks

What absolute joke of a franchise we are , fucking pathetic