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EdmundDorf 11-19-2023 05:26 PM

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Has there ever been a time when giving the HC control of personnel actually worked? I am struggling to think of a case

mooby 11-19-2023 05:27 PM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1352572]Has there ever been a time when giving the HC control of personnel actually worked? I am struggling to think of a case[/quote]

Bill Belichick.

Starting to suspect he hit the lotto with a 6th round qb and that covered up many of his weaknesses though.

I would argue Andy Reid has final decision making on his roster too but his track record is proven.

calia 11-19-2023 05:28 PM

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Honestly, if there aren’t changes this week, I’m done. Like forever done. After being a fan for 50 years. I know the stench of Snyder runs deep, but how can you have so little fight. Pathetic. This somehow feels worse than the Chicago loss.


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punch it in 11-19-2023 05:33 PM

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[QUOTE=mooby;1352573]Bill Belichick.

Starting to suspect he hit the lotto with a 6th round qb and that covered up many of his weaknesses though.

I would argue Andy Reid has final decision making on his roster too but his track record is proven.[/QUOTE]


BB was responsible for several great defenses and possibly the best defensive coach of all time. I hate that I have to constantly defend him because I think he is a dick. But once again him and Brady needed each other.

punch it in 11-19-2023 05:34 PM

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[QUOTE=calia;1352574]Honestly, if there aren’t changes this week, I’m done. Like forever done. After being a fan for 50 years. I know the stench of Snyder runs deep, but how can you have so little fight. Pathetic. This somehow feels worse than the Chicago loss.


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You cannot be done before Harris has a chance to put his stamp on things. After all this time we are so close to being free from Snyders garbage. It would be a terrible time to walk away.

kct1975 11-19-2023 05:37 PM

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1352549]Giants’ and Commanders’ locker rooms at FedEx Field have no hot water for showers.



A Commanders’ official said: “We had an equipment failure in the main water heater that provides hot water to the field level locker rooms. We can’t resolve the matter without completely shutting off the water to the stadium, which is why it couldn’t be repaired in game.”[/QUOTE]That Figures!

And not surprising...
Jack Kent Cook Stadium/FedEx Field [emoji909] was rushed in its design and the construction [emoji616] was rushed, and then Dan Synder did absolutely NOTHING for the maintenance of the Stadium [emoji909]

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skinsfaninok 11-19-2023 05:55 PM

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I’ve said this for a few years now. I’m a fan of this team and always will be but I’m not a diehard fan anymore. Losses don’t matter to me. In fact I laugh at most of the games we play. The only real connection I have to this franchise is on this site. If Matty said the page is retiring I’d probably not even root for them anymore. You fuckers keep me in this shit hole lol


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punch it in 11-19-2023 05:58 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1352579]I’ve said this for a few years now. I’m a fan of this team and always will be but I’m not a diehard fan anymore. Losses don’t matter to me. In fact I laugh at most of the games we play. The only real connection I have to this franchise is on this site. If Matty said the page is retiring I’d probably not even root for them anymore. You fuckers keep me in this shit hole lol


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You’ve only ever known Snyder. Don’t give up now.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2023 06:09 PM

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1352580]You’ve only ever known Snyder. Don’t give up now.[/QUOTE]


Yeah I know lol


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SolidSnake84 11-19-2023 06:10 PM

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[quote=mooby;1352573]Bill Belichick.

Starting to suspect he hit the lotto with a 6th round qb and that covered up many of his weaknesses though.

I would argue Andy Reid has final decision making on his roster too but his track record is proven.[/quote]

I used to think that Belichick was a genius. Then I realized that most likely it was all having Tom Brady. Belichick only had one winning season in Cleveland as HC there. He has been borderline trash since losing Brady.

A fun question is who is a worse HC at this point in their career? Belichick or Ron?

I do think Andy Reid is another shining example of a HC being able to be his own GM. Belichick needed a proven superstar GOAT QB to win. Andy Reid had loads of success with many different QB's - McNabb, Jeff Garcia, and Michael Vick, as well as Alex Smith in KC, and of course Mahomes.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2023 06:16 PM

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Andy Reid never won a ring before Mahomes tho. That QB makes all the difference man.


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jamf 11-19-2023 06:20 PM

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Look all you simps looking the other way at this horrible ass qb play.

You can admit you’re wrong about him

skinsfaninok 11-19-2023 06:26 PM

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[QUOTE=jamf;1352584]Look all you simps looking the other way at this horrible ass qb play.

You can admit you’re wrong about him[/QUOTE]


He was bad today. No argument from me. If he plays like this again Thursday then I’ll have some ?? About his future as a Starter.

You can’t just throw up balls like he does.. bro this is the NFL not UNC.

But in fairness to Howell , his WRs never ever get open in tight situations. Terry has been so disappointing this season.. has the NFL caught up to him? He never creates separation.

And His OL is ATROCIOUS


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PorkSkins 11-19-2023 06:29 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1352585]And His OL is ATROCIOUS
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So is Howell's OC.

REDSKINS4ever 11-19-2023 06:34 PM

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How do you get swept by the NY Giants ?

JGisLordOfTheRings 11-19-2023 06:37 PM

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1352587]How do you get swept by the NY Giants ?[/QUOTE]Looking like a full division sweep across the board. Fucking embarrassing.

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skinsfaninok 11-19-2023 06:37 PM

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[QUOTE=PorkSkins;1352586]So is Howell's OC.[/QUOTE]


They ran the ball more today at least but yeah he calls plays for Mahomes not Howell lol. Howell can’t throw it 40 times a game


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skinsfaninok 11-19-2023 06:38 PM

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1352587]How do you get swept by the NY Giants ?[/QUOTE]


They literally have 3 wins all season and 2 vs wash…


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skinsfan69 11-19-2023 06:40 PM

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[quote=kct1975;1352577]That Figures!

And not surprising...
Jack Kent Cook Stadium/FedEx Field [emoji909] was rushed in its design and the construction [emoji616] was rushed, and then Dan Synder did absolutely NOTHING for the maintenance of the Stadium [emoji909]

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I went to two home game back in 1997, the first year of the JKC Stadium. Still have a JKC Stadium hat in my office. The place was rocking and everyone seemed to love it. How things have changed over the years. You couldn't pay me to go over there now.

CRedskinsRule 11-19-2023 06:41 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1352549]Giants’ and Commanders’ locker rooms at FedEx Field have no hot water for showers.

A Commanders’ official said: “We had an equipment failure in the main water heater that provides hot water to the field level locker rooms. We can’t resolve the matter without completely shutting off the water to the stadium, which is why it couldn’t be repaired in game.”[/quote]

So we can safely say that the Washington Football Team is NOT a HOT mess. Very Cold, like death, death of a franchise.

Meks 11-19-2023 06:43 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1352579]I’ve said this for a few years now. I’m a fan of this team and always will be but I’m not a diehard fan anymore. Losses don’t matter to me. In fact I laugh at most of the games we play. The only real connection I have to this franchise is on this site. If Matty said the page is retiring I’d probably not even root for them anymore. You fuckers keep me in this shit hole lol


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Can I grab you a beer? Lol

calia 11-19-2023 06:43 PM

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1352576]You cannot be done before Harris has a chance to put his stamp on things. After all this time we are so close to being free from Snyders garbage. It would be a terrible time to walk away.[/QUOTE]


I know I know. But fuck do games like today make it hard to wait. Ive been waiting for just competitiveness since 1991. We all have.

RR - you’re a good and decent man. But it’s not enough.


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CRedskinsRule 11-19-2023 06:43 PM

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[quote=mooby;1352560]I agree.

I don't want an interim to coach a team for a game in 4 days - if we get blown out by the Cowboys let him go afterwards. If it's a close game and they lose to the Cowboys wait until they get blown out by the Dolphins the week after that and then let Ron go - interim has the bye week to prepare.

Regardless, if Ron gets fired I don't have faith in an interim to do his job better.[/quote]
Mainly just too much turmoil before a national game. After the Dallas game, we have a 10 day mini-bye, followed by a real bye week.

Just do the firing on Black Friday. It fits.

Meks 11-19-2023 06:44 PM

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[quote=jamf;1352584]Look all you simps looking the other way at this horrible ass qb play.

You can admit you’re wrong about him[/quote]

Tell that to Peyton when he had bad games as a rookie. I'll end with that.

skinsfan69 11-19-2023 06:47 PM

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I felt like the only thing that was halfway decent was EB and BRob. EB seemed a lot more patient today and that was really the way to call the game considering we could not block their d-line. WTF is it with the Giants defense when they play us? They just trample our line. You'd think this was the Giants D when Belichick was their d coordinator w/ LT.

Anyhow EB was decent today. I think B Rob is such a good back. Not great but really good. I think the offense missed Gibson out of the back field. Dotson continues to be a no show. Not Sam's best game at all, he seemed to be bothered a bit w/ all the pressure. Not gonna kill him for the last int. But he threw a couple bad ones. Should have been 4 picks. We knew there would be days like this...

jamf 11-19-2023 06:59 PM

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[quote=Meks;1352596]Tell that to Peyton when he had bad games as a rookie. I'll end with that.[/quote]

lol you simp. Howell isn’t a rookie. He’s been on a pro team for over 20 games at this point.
Stop making excuses for someone that can’t get the ball downfield.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2023 07:07 PM

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[QUOTE=Meks;1352593]Can I grab you a beer? Lol[/QUOTE]


Yes please


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skinsfaninok 11-19-2023 07:14 PM

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Almost every media outlet is questioning whether or not Ron keeps his job tomorrow. I don’t see how he does


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skinsfan69 11-19-2023 07:16 PM

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And BURN those black jersey. Those things are fucking atrocious.

EARTHQUAKE2689 11-19-2023 07:16 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1352580]You’ve only ever known Snyder. Don’t give up now.[/quote]

I gave up. It's just funny now. I hate so much that I have an emotional connection to this piss soaked cesspool of a team. I'm a fan but not a diehard anymore either. It just isnt worth it.

NC_Skins 11-19-2023 07:18 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1352600]Almost every media outlet is questioning whether or not Ron keeps his job tomorrow. I don’t see how he does


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Why bother firing him now? What strategic purpose would there to be to fire him now? Nothing short of a Super Bowl this year (not happening) isn't going to save his job so why not just keep him until the last game and jettison his ass to the moon at 12:01am the following day. I'm pretty sure everybody in that locker room and front office knows that coaching staff is gone. I guess they could make EB the head coach and see how he does for a few games?

NC_Skins 11-19-2023 07:20 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1352602]I gave up. It's just funny now. I hate so much that I have an emotional connection to this piss soaked cesspool of a team. I'm a fan but not a diehard anymore either. It just isnt worth it.[/quote]

I can say I'm not emotionally vested in this team this year. Haven't watch the past three weeks b/c I know this is a lame duck season for Ron and crew. I'm happy for the future and glad we got some good picks off of players we were never keeping.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2023 07:26 PM

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[url]https://x.com/nfloncbs/status/1726373678676406731?s=46[/url]


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skinsfaninok 11-19-2023 07:30 PM

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1352604]I can say I'm not emotionally vested in this team this year. Haven't watch the past three weeks b/c I know this is a lame duck season for Ron and crew. I'm happy for the future and glad we got some good picks off of players we were never keeping.[/QUOTE]


I only watch to laugh. Losing used to ruin my day up until about 4 years ago. Then I realized as fans we can’t do shit about it. Why get mad?

This is a HUGE offseason for Harris and co. If they don’t get the right coach here and GM they will lose almost every fan that’s left.


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Chico23231 11-19-2023 08:14 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1352601]And BURN those black jersey. Those things are fucking atrocious.[/quote]

These fucking uniforms are trash…along with the name

skinsfaninok 11-19-2023 08:18 PM

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Since being traded 3 weeks ago

CY has 1.5 Sacks
Sweat has 1 Sack


Not missing them
Much.


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skinsfaninok 11-19-2023 08:19 PM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1352609]These fucking uniforms are trash…along with the name[/QUOTE]


Tbh at first I loved the uniforms and liked the name some but now I hope they change this all up again. I doubt Harris will though


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punch it in 11-19-2023 08:28 PM

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[QUOTE=jamf;1352598]lol you simp. Howell isn’t a rookie. He’s been on a pro team for over 20 games at this point.
Stop making excuses for someone that can’t get the ball downfield.[/QUOTE]


He has started 12. He has a shit oline. He has one good, not great, but good wr. He has an absolutely atrocious oline. It is hard to get the ball downfield when you have 2 seconds to throw the ball and your wr’s get zero separation. Wait, not hard but impossible. Sam is the absolute least of the worries on this team full of misfits.

punch it in 11-19-2023 08:34 PM

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1352602]I gave up. It's just funny now. I hate so much that I have an emotional connection to this piss soaked cesspool of a team. I'm a fan but not a diehard anymore either. It just isnt worth it.[/QUOTE]


Jumping ship now, after almost 25 years of torture, months before an owner not named Dan Snyder is about to try and fix things seems strange.

BaltimoreSkins 11-19-2023 08:38 PM

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This is just me but I see no harm right now in firing Martin Mayhew as GM. There is not much he can do post trade deadline if he is a lame duck. I am not sure if there is a time frame in which we prohibiting from hiring or interviewing GM candidates, but I feel we as fans deserve better. I genuinely understand the argument of waiting till after week 18 but that doesn't negate my anger at the ownerships silence (other than Magic) in how this season has unfolded and impacted the fandom.


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