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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1348496]He has always been a shitty interview but that was bad. He is no Jurgen Klopp. Goggle Jurgen Klopp funny quotes or interviews. I think we should do a reverse Ted Lasso and bring him over[/quote]

That's hysterical. Maybe we should see what Jason Sudeikis is doing in the offseason.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1348493]QUOTE=PorkSkins;1348431]Although, I have as much confidence in this staff as I can beat up a silverback gorilla, I do think we win next Sunday. I have a feeling we'll blitz Ridder from the onset and rattle him a bit. I also think Jon Allen and Payne will come out possessed like maniacs.

I think we win by at least 10 points. I sense we're gonna play pissed off as a team and get the W. Then in typical Washington manner, we'll shit the bed the following week versus the Giants. That's a story for another day.[/quote]

Oh no... I'm not falling for the banana in the tailpipe.

They should have played pissed off against the Bears after coming so close to beating the Eagles, but hey had no fire. The Bears made them look silly. I don't anticipate anything different this weekend, or this year, until they prove otherwise. They could honestly be 0-5 right now, and probably should be...[/QUOTE]

"You've been hanging out with this guy too long." (Great movie reference, Chief.)

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[QUOTE=davy;1348492]It's ok guys, Ron has it figured out...

“I just think that first and foremost there was a good opportunity for us the last couple days to dive into several things, study some things, look at some things, evaluate what we do and how we do it, evaluate the way we're doing it," Rivera said. "And I think, going through it and in our conversations that we've come to some pretty good resolutions and some things that most certainly do need to be corrected, need to be fixed, and some things that we can do to help the players.”

Read more at: [url]https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/article280339279.html#storylink=cpy[/url]

14-3 here we come :)[/QUOTE]


Year four and he is evaluating some things and diving into some things. Jesus Christ how has this guy been a HC for so many years? Magic needs to tell him that if he wants to finish the year instead of being fired midstream he needs to not talk to anyone about anything. Not even the players. Just act like it is always game time and stand with your arms folded trying to stay awake.

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This seasons a win because Snyder is gone. Its all change in the offseason so ride it out. Etc.

I get these thoughts, I do. But I think we have a number of players that deserve better than wasting a year of their career playing for nothing but a salary. We're 2-3, and while I doubt we have a shot at the playoffs as it stands, especially with RR and JDR until week 18, it's not a lost cause yet. I'd sack them now to give the players a chance to deliver something with a new guy in charge, if not a whole new staff..

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I have no idea how this team will play … I’m not wasting anymore time watching in real time .. I’ll spend my Sunday’s doing something else and watch the game later .. it would not surprise me if we won or lost .. Harris better start thinking about how he is gonna get this fan base back .. Ron ain’t gonna get it done

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1348507]This seasons a win because Snyder is gone. Its all change in the offseason so ride it out. Etc.

I get these thoughts, I do. But I think we have a number of players that deserve better than wasting a year of their career playing for nothing but a salary. We're 2-3, and while I doubt we have a shot at the playoffs as it stands, especially with RR and JDR until week 18, it's not a lost cause yet. I'd sack them now to give the players a chance to deliver something with a new guy in charge, if not a whole new staff..[/QUOTE]


Those thoughts are the silver lining, not an alternative to winning.

Im all in favor of shit canning those two losers. I don’t think we have the personnel to win with or without them honestly. We need a draft and a free agency period run by real football minds to get some more horses here.

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1348508]I have no idea how this team will play … I’m not wasting anymore time watching in real time .. I’ll spend my Sunday’s doing something else and watch the game later .. it would not surprise me if we won or lost .. Harris better start thinking about how he is gonna get this fan base back .. Ron ain’t gonna get it done[/QUOTE]


There is only one way to get a fanbase back. Win. Harris isn’t magic. Neither is magic. Lol. They need at least one full off season. The fans will be back eventually. Firing Ron now would feel good and i guess you could promote EB and see how the players respond. I just think there is way more to it than that. At least one full off season worth of fixing. He literally was handed shit on a stick and the season started.

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Yeah, Chase sucks.

Chase Young team rankings from @PFF:

Pressures - 1st w/27 (Allen/Sweat 19)

Sacks - 2nd w/4 (Sweat 4.5)

QB hits - T-2 w/5 (Payne 6, Allen 5)

Hurries - 1st w/18 (Allen 11)

PRP formula - 1st w/12.6 (Sweat 8.8)

Pass Rush Win % - 1st w/22.8 (5th)

* Young missed one game

[url]https://x.com/benstandig/status/1711430168911241423?s=46&t=PLCFppIcPjVVwlav8ILf0Q[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1348513]Yeah, Chase sucks.

Chase Young team rankings from @PFF:

Pressures - 1st w/27 (Allen/Sweat 19)

Sacks - 2nd w/4 (Sweat 4.5)

QB hits - T-2 w/5 (Payne 6, Allen 5)

Hurries - 1st w/18 (Allen 11)

PRP formula - 1st w/12.6 (Sweat 8.8)

Pass Rush Win % - 1st w/22.8 (5th)

* Young missed one game

[url]https://x.com/benstandig/status/1711430168911241423?s=46&t=PLCFppIcPjVVwlav8ILf0Q[/url][/quote]

Thanks for the numbers. I do think he flashes a lot on the field. He's one of the few brights spots so far IMO. yes he seems to disappear for a while at times, but through 4 games we've seen some obvious progress towards what we know he can be.

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There was one play v Chicago that, to me at least, showed his game maturing. If I recall correctly, it was a draw play and he came rushing with outside contain, saw the run play, switched his leverage and shed his block immediately coming down the line and making the tackle. I don't remember anything like that in year one.

To me it's one of the signs he's developing. Will he stay with the team? I couldn't say at this point. But whether he develops into an all pro or not, I don't think he's a bust and I can see him having a career in the NFL. Maybe he's the next Clowney?

Right now I just hope he and Sweat scare the living daylights out of Ridder.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1348514]Thanks for the numbers. I do think he flashes a lot on the field. He's one of the few brights spots so far IMO. yes he seems to disappear for a while at times, but through 4 games we've seen some obvious progress towards what we know he can be.[/quote]He's clearly a solid pass rusher. There have already been so many plays where he applied pressure just could not get the sack. Hope he works out long term but understand it's a business.

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Lol!! Someone here mentioned to bring back DJ Swearinger, he’s ready.

[url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/10/former-washington-safety-dj-swearinger-makes-his-case-for-a-return-with-recent-injuries/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1vl1HjbUnyKtTWXhQVBD0nrtobYkzBTQc6t4nxhJLVlZfwPVt2kTy6bww_aem_Aa7yiio4SXGv2K_sM3nHd0JI2H9x1hROiJDMcIEM2cmDapMiboLBPoc2vy5tBpGnAUU&mibextid=Zxz2cZ[/url]

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With Forrest and Reaves going to IR, it looks like they elevated safety Burgess & linebacker De'Jon "Scoota" Harris from the practice squad. I was really hoping to see Jabril Cox, but there must be something going on there.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1348513]Yeah, Chase sucks.

Chase Young team rankings from @PFF:

Pressures - 1st w/27 (Allen/Sweat 19)

Sacks - 2nd w/4 (Sweat 4.5)

QB hits - T-2 w/5 (Payne 6, Allen 5)

Hurries - 1st w/18 (Allen 11)

PRP formula - 1st w/12.6 (Sweat 8.8)

Pass Rush Win % - 1st w/22.8 (5th)

* Young missed one game

[url]https://x.com/benstandig/status/1711430168911241423?s=46&t=PLCFppIcPjVVwlav8ILf0Q[/url][/quote]

problem with those stats is that Young is very undisciplined. It will brink up the pressure stats, but he over pursues giving up big runs a LOT!! when he blew up his knee he was having the same issues and the team defense got a lot better when he went on IR. According to Rivera at the time the rise in the defense was due to playing more disciplined and it sure looked like it. So when does he improve on that front?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1348513]Yeah, Chase sucks.

Chase Young team rankings from @PFF:

Pressures - 1st w/27 (Allen/Sweat 19)

Sacks - 2nd w/4 (Sweat 4.5)

QB hits - T-2 w/5 (Payne 6, Allen 5)

Hurries - 1st w/18 (Allen 11)

PRP formula - 1st w/12.6 (Sweat 8.8)

Pass Rush Win % - 1st w/22.8 (5th)

* Young missed one game

[url]https://x.com/benstandig/status/1711430168911241423?s=46&t=PLCFppIcPjVVwlav8ILf0Q[/url][/quote]

Empty stats if you ask me. He never makes any game changing plays. No sack, fumble- change the momentum type of plays. I watched the Ravens and Pittsburgh and Watt is just a menace all game long.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1348514]Thanks for the numbers. I do think he flashes a lot on the field. He's one of the few brights spots so far IMO. yes he seems to disappear for a while at times, but through 4 games we've seen some obvious progress towards what we know he can be.[/quote]

I think a lot of that is sustained success on defense is so difficult in the NFL. I only see 3 sacks not the 4 listed above but that puts him on pace to be in same ball park as Micah Parsons who a lot of people on here feel is a game changer. We are always more critical of own team. Take solace in we have a very good edge rusher that doesn't sexually assault his younger teammates like Parsons.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1348534]Empty stats if you ask me. He never makes any game changing plays. No sack, fumble- change the momentum type of plays. I watched the Ravens and Pittsburgh and Watt is just a menace all game long.[/quote]

Watt is the best in the league. Might as well say Josh Allen is no Patrick Mahomes

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1348537]Watt is the best in the league. Might as well say Josh Allen is no Patrick Mahomes[/quote]

But that is who Chase is supposed to be. The best or one of the best.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1348541]But that is who Chase is supposed to be. The best or one of the best.[/quote]

I hear what you are saying and that is a fine expectation with the 2nd overall pick but I will gladly take top ten sack production. Of course I do hope he improves his game.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1348527]Lol!! Someone here mentioned to bring back DJ Swearinger, he’s ready.

[url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/10/former-washington-safety-dj-swearinger-makes-his-case-for-a-return-with-recent-injuries/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1vl1HjbUnyKtTWXhQVBD0nrtobYkzBTQc6t4nxhJLVlZfwPVt2kTy6bww_aem_Aa7yiio4SXGv2K_sM3nHd0JI2H9x1hROiJDMcIEM2cmDapMiboLBPoc2vy5tBpGnAUU&mibextid=Zxz2cZ[/url][/quote]

Well, why not Archuletta or Doughty while we're at it (speaking of painful memories)?

Really bummed about Reeves. I've always thought when he was actually playing D (and not just special teams) he was very effective, and I was hoping that he was going to get a chance for some more playing time. Sounds like he may be out for the season - -a partial ACL tear is not something to sneeze at.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1348529]With Forrest and Reaves going to IR, it looks like they elevated safety Burgess & linebacker De'Jon "Scoota" Harris from the practice squad. I was really hoping to see Jabril Cox, but there must be something going on there.[/quote]

They need to give Hudson some PT over Barton at this point. It seems impossible that he'd do worse.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1348534]Empty stats if you ask me. He never makes any game changing plays. No sack, fumble- change the momentum type of plays. I watched the Ravens and Pittsburgh and Watt is just a menace all game long.[/QUOTE]


Agree 100 percent. Chase Young was supposed to be a generational talent at number 2 overall. Like Watt. I don’t ever recall watching him play and just wreck the other team. Has had some very good games but way too few and far between. Especially with the rest of that line. Bottom line I expected HOF great and so far we have gotten good when healthy. It is a let down for sure.

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He's going to have some game changing plays soon enough, just watch. Anyone still on the JAG talk or even bust is just dumb.

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[quote=MTK;1348551]He's going to have some game changing plays soon enough, just watch. Anyone still on the JAG talk or even bust is just dumb.[/quote]

Color me.dumb then. He plays undisciplined, selfishly and has done more harm to the defense than good. Like I said yesterday, though, I 100% put BIG blame on coaching and DEFINITELY on scheme.

I hope he keeps improving and his game keeps.evolving and gets a real coach and more inventive scheme to work with.

Here's to hoping for the best!

But I just see sooooooo many other players giving offenses fits and this dude is a ghost 70% of most games. Our expectations were too high b/c #2 overall, then the injury set backs... plenty of excuses can be made but I just don't see the discipline yet to be a well rounded DE.

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[quote=Meks;1348557]Color me.dumb then. He plays undisciplined, selfishly and has done more harm to the defense than good. Like I said yesterday, though, I 100% put BIG blame on coaching and DEFINITELY on scheme.

I hope he keeps improving and his game keeps.evolving and gets a real coach and more inventive scheme to work with.

Here's to hoping for the best!

But I just see sooooooo many other players giving offenses fits and this dude is a ghost 70% of most games. Our expectations were too high b/c #2 overall, then the injury set backs... plenty of excuses can be made but I just don't see the discipline yet to be a well rounded DE.[/quote]

Currently listening to [URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-675-film-breakdown-with-mark-bullock-on-chase/id1553345193?i=1000630935967"]Mark Bullock on Al Galdi's pod[/URL] breaking down Chase Young's performance, he starts by saying this narrative that he's undisciplined was true 2 years ago, and completely false so far this year.

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He's played much better this year and seems to be getting better every week. I think people are just down on him because we could have taken a QB that year, and he hasn't lived up to the hype of being a #2 pick, albeit - mostly due to injury. Coaching has probably played a factor too, especially early on, which is likely why they shook up the D-line coaching group, brought in Warren Sapp that year, etc.

Barring injury, I think he's slated for a big year.

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The first half of last week Chase for the most part was a no show, against a o-line that may be worse than ours. Played better in the 2nd h but it was too late.

Come out and dominate this week. Absolutely no excuses for this d line not to eat against Ridder. Del Rio should have 50 blitzes in his game plan.

Big problem is going to be BJ out of the backfield. He has wr skills and will toast our LB's in coverage.

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So, our genius head coach has a new sign on the players locker room door saying "[B]DO YOUR JOB[/B]".

A wise man once told me that the 3 most important things in team sports are...

1. Coaching
2. Coaching
3. Coaching

Apparently Ron Rivera has never met a wise man.

:banghead:

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I Think the offense should play well enough again this week to get the W. It'll be close since we never blow anyone out like ever in Rons tenure.

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[quote=davy;1348563]So, our genius head coach has a new sign on the players locker room door saying "[B]DO YOUR JOB[/B]".

A wise man once told me that the 3 most important things in team sports are...

1. Coaching
2. Coaching
3. Coaching

Apparently Ron Rivera has never met a wise man.

:banghead:[/quote]

Im interested to know if he put similar signs on the coaches office doors, if not he is squarely blaming the players which wont be tolerated for long as they must now know he is gone at seasons end. If stories start coming out of disatisfaction, does it compel Harris to fire Ron?

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1348567][B]Im interested to know if he put similar signs on the coaches office doors, if not he is squarely blaming the players which wont be tolerated for long as they must now know he is gone at seasons end.[/B] If stories start coming out of disatisfaction, does it compel Harris to fire Ron?[/quote]

My thoughts exactly.

The first sign should have gone on his own door. :coach:

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What a dumbass sign. He without terrible decision making both as a GM and coach, cast the first stone.

Rivera, if you think you're a remotely competent "GM" or HC:

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/lrGM4No1Z8cAAAAC/heres-your-sign-duh.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=skinsfan69;1348562]The first half of last week Chase for the most part was a no show, against a o-line that may be worse than ours. Played better in the 2nd h but it was too late.

Come out and dominate this week. Absolutely no excuses for this d line not to eat against Ridder. Del Rio should have 50 blitzes in his game plan.

Big problem is going to be BJ out of the backfield. He has wr skills and will toast our LB's in coverage.[/quote]

The whole team was a no show in the first half last week...

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[quote=davy;1348563]So, our genius head coach has a new sign on the players locker room door saying "[B]DO YOUR JOB[/B]".

A wise man once told me that the 3 most important things in team sports are...

1. Coaching
2. Coaching
3. Coaching

Apparently Ron Rivera has never met a wise man.

:banghead:[/quote]

Pfff washed out dinosaur wants to play it Belichick style now ? You ain't got 1% of his success, shut up and try not to embarrass yourself too much on the way out, will ya?

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Ron does have a sign on his door it says "Fix the lunch menu"

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1348579]Ron does have a sign on his door it says "Fix the lunch menu"[/quote]

:biggthump

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[quote=davy;1348563]So, our genius head coach has a new sign on the players locker room door saying "[B]DO YOUR JOB[/B]".

A wise man once told me that the 3 most important things in team sports are...

1. Coaching
2. Coaching
3. Coaching

Apparently Ron Rivera has never met a wise man.

:banghead:[/quote]

He's stealing that from New England because I believe there is a sign right when you enter the building, that says "Do your job". Ron is no Belichick. Belichick might be washed up now, but he had a hell of a run. Ron on his biggest fantasy dream could never have had the run that BB / Brady had together..

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1348567]Im interested to know if he put similar signs on the coaches office doors, if not he is squarely blaming the players which wont be tolerated for long as they must now know he is gone at seasons end. If stories start coming out of disatisfaction, does it compel Harris to fire Ron?[/quote]

I think Harris has known for a while now that Ron is not his guy. He is viewed generally as a patient owner, but I am sure that Harris felt like unless Ron somehow became a good coach this season, ie big wins and playoffs, Ron was not going to be retained.

I'm sure he is patient on coaches / staff that he selects personally, not sure that trickles down to the "leftovers". I think Harris would probably be ok with firing Ron now but perhaps he does not want to take a page from Dan's playbook and fire a coach mid season??

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Fire him now you get 11 games to see if the interim (probably EB) can show him something. Fire him after the season and you have 11 more games of RR phoning it in (its what he's doing now so he's not changing) and all you've learned is he's not your guy. Which you already know. Plus you probably have a disillusioned locker room the new guy has to turn around. Why wait?

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1348584]Fire him now you get 11 games to see if the interim (probably EB) can show him something. Fire him after the season and you have 11 more games of RR phoning it in (its what he's doing now so he's not changing) and all you've learned is he's not your guy. Which you already know. Plus you probably have a disillusioned locker room the new guy has to turn around. Why wait?[/quote]

true . . . but you also have a reputation to build and incoming coaches will weigh how you treat the current coach in their decision on whether or not they will want to coach here. We have not had a good reputation from previous ownership, and while new ownership helps it doesn't magically erase everything. Firing coaches mid season can be looked at as an inpatient knee jerk reaction which does not look good. I just don't see it happening as this ownership team is trying hard to fix the reputation the team has around the league, not tarnish further.